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On 8/20/2025 at 10:52 PM, Son of Rawl said:

Agreed, it is up to people. The last game I pre-ordered when I had faith in the industry was Cyberbug 2077....after that, it's never again for me.

 

I expected issues from CDPR because every game they had released prior to Cyberpunk was a mess at launch. Also, access to the game prior to launch was extremely limited. Like I outlined in my previous post - that woudn't pass my sniff test for a pre-order. Objective, plentiful and easily available information should be there for us to make an educated decision. 

 

But other games like FF7 Rebirth, BG3, Expedition 33, Armored Core 6, Space Marine 2, Tekken 8, etc etc etc have all been great from day 1.

 

In the case of Dawn of War 4, this game has already been available for certain influencers and gaming critics to sample for some time. Angry Joe, in a recent video, has admitted that he knew of this game and had been part of a trial and has played it. He will be sharing footage and more opinions soon, but he enjoys the game.

If the dev is allowing access to the game to 3rd parties months before release, and their opinions are positive, then that fills me with confidence.

Edited by Orange Knight
On 8/21/2025 at 4:36 AM, Orange Knight said:

In the case of Dawn of War 4, this game has already been available for certain influencers and gaming critics to sample for some time. Angry Joe, in a recent video, has admitted that he knew of this game and had been part of a trial and has played it. He will be sharing footage and more opinions soon, but he enjoys the game.

If the dev is allowing access to the game to 3rd parties months before release, and their opinions are positive, then that fills me with confidence.

 

I get the confidence, I'm still not preordering until I've at least put hands on keyboard with it.  There's no benefit any more to giving up your money early; back in the day it made sure you at least got a disc on release date, but now it's all 1's and 0's, there's no benefit to preordering, as even usually preorder bonuses will still be applicable for like a week after a game releases.

On 8/21/2025 at 4:36 AM, Orange Knight said:

Angry Joe, in a recent video, has admitted that he knew of this game and had been part of a trial and has played it. He will be sharing footage and more opinions soon, but he enjoys the game.

I don't take everything he says as gospel, but if he was liking it then that seems at the very least, promising. I was surprised to see AdMech and looking forward to getting more info about their role in the game.

31 minutes ago, DemonGSides said:

 

I get the confidence, I'm still not preordering until I've at least put hands on keyboard with it.  There's no benefit any more to giving up your money early; back in the day it made sure you at least got a disc on release date, but now it's all 1's and 0's, there's no benefit to preordering, as even usually preorder bonuses will still be applicable for like a week after a game releases.

 

Yeah I agree, and I should mention all of my pre orders that I mentioned above have been for physical games.

 

I agree that without an incentive there is no point, even if the game is going to be great.

3 hours ago, Redsun said:

I'm sure there's a video of angry Joe praising DoW3 before it was released, so wouldn't put much stock in it

 

That said, from what I've seen/read/heard so far, I'm optimistic 

 

He talks about that. He liked how it looked but had never played it.

But he's not some great arbiter of gaming. A few people have been talking it up.

We still need to see pure, un-edited gameplay.

  • 1 month later...

It looks fine. I hope the final product is solid or stellar. Dawn of War is what got me into 40k, so I'm a big fan of the original run before II, and this makes me hopeful they will make something that helps us forget III was ever a thing.

 

But why Kronos again? The Necrons are also somehow back? Didn't we bury their crypts as the blood Ravens? Anyhow, I hope it's good.

The trailer was great, all the units across all the factions really pop.

 

GW dropped the ball with Space Marine 2. There were no model releases in time, they didn't market the units in the game ahead of others to pull people in, etc.

 

Will they be ready for Dawn of War IV?

They should have models and rules ready to go - heroes from the game, chapter rules, etc.

1 hour ago, Orange Knight said:

The trailer was great, all the units across all the factions really pop.

 

GW dropped the ball with Space Marine 2. There were no model releases in time, they didn't market the units in the game ahead of others to pull people in, etc.

 

Will they be ready for Dawn of War IV?

They should have models and rules ready to go - heroes from the game, chapter rules, etc.

We will probably get Marneus Calgar version 6 by then, and a new wave of blue Lieutenants to coincide with the game. The will be a cutscene near the end of the DoW 4 space marine campaign where the Blood Ravens will have a desperate last stand and then Marneus Calgar will drop out of the sky and steal back all the stuff the Blood Ravens have taken from the Ultramarines. :laugh:

2 hours ago, Shinespider said:

I'm going to save my graphical complaints for when IG are added and we have to confront the stupid lasgun change. That's the hill I'll die on.

 

Anyway, excited to play a game with Admech in it. 

I initially agreed but theres a whole heap of evidence to say this is the correct representation of the lasgun somehow. Likely GW being bad or inconsistent with physics.

11 hours ago, Orange Knight said:

The trailer was great, all the units across all the factions really pop.

 

GW dropped the ball with Space Marine 2. There were no model releases in time, they didn't market the units in the game ahead of others to pull people in, etc.

 

Will they be ready for Dawn of War IV?

They should have models and rules ready to go - heroes from the game, chapter rules, etc.

 

I think this has GW's philosophy fundamentally backwards. They want the models they already make to be front-and-centre in the game, not make new models to align with a game made by others. 

 

I suspect that any characters will bear strikingly similarities to the existing models, in the way that Captain Acheran from SMII was clearly just the "Captain in Phobos Armour" model. 

7 hours ago, Shinespider said:

I'm going to save my graphical complaints for when IG are added and we have to confront the stupid lasgun change. That's the hill I'll die on.

 

Anyway, excited to play a game with Admech in it. 

Whats the Lasgun problem, please?

3 hours ago, Emicus said:

Whats the Lasgun problem, please?

 

Certain People have a lot of opinions on the color of the beam that comes out of a lasgun, and over the past few years, GW has had multiple products that go different directions with it.

It's the Console War but for Imperial Fanboys.  It's pretty funny.

Edited by DemonGSides

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