Allies for 3.0

[SlickSamos]

Anyone else tempted by a cheeky little ally detachment or two for the new edition?  I'm thinking a little Black Watch (Champion & 10 man Centurion Command Squad from sprues and bits I have) and a little Custodian Guard force (Shield Captain & 4 man Sentinel Guard Squad only costs one box) to ensure that my Emperor's Children stay on the right side of the Emperor.

 

A small Solar Auxilia group also looks really tempting and if you have some random old Engineseers you can now chuck them in for a cheeky 30 points.

[Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf]

I don't like to use allies in my list, but maybe I add an small group of Mechanicum troops. Just a Magos and a pair of blood slaughterers. Maybe one extra,cheap unit. Or some Word Bearers and Gal Vorbak...

But is just to give some use to some miniatures I own.

[W.A.Rorie]

Since my group has a Thousands Sons, Word Bearers and Daemons of the Ruinstorm player (all the Same guy too) Sisters of Silence is my go to for my Raven Guard. Eventually maybe those new shiny combat boxes of Solar Auxila one day 

[Razorblade]

I'm going to get a little primary Detachment of Admech to lead my Dark Angels. Space Marine Tanks are great at helping out with Admechs narrow Anti-Tank options and also provide some beefy bodies for all that battlesmith to repair (I think krios' and most automata ho down so quickly that they''ll rarely stick around to be repaired once they start taking damage) and Admech provides Vanguard on units with proper guns, one of the few things you just don't get with legions

[Brother Kraskor]

I am constantly tempted by a cheeky Allied detachment!  But traitor EC don't play well with others. Maybe some daemons, but will have to wait and see what they look like.

[Corswain]

I don't think allied detachments work. I started a little allied detachment of Mechanicum last edition. I've now bought about 2000pts worth. 

 

Sisters of Silence is tempting though. Just gonna hold out to see if they get any love when Talons get refreshed.

[Pacific81]

I'm collecting some Sons of Horus set during the Scouring era and looking at maybe some Militia to represent the Cultists (cannon fodder) the surviving marines are using to help escape the Sol system. I see there is a PDF for that now and just need to find some suitable minis for them, there are quite a few about.

Also some Mechanicum robots - again the marines are just using any and all tools available to them. Can imagine some fast-moving Vorax battle automata ranging ahead of the marines trying to find gaps in the net closing about them.

Edited August 23 by Pacific81

[SlickSamos]

5 hours ago, Corswain said:

I don't think allied detachments work. I started a little allied detachment of Mechanicum last edition. I've now bought about 2000pts worth. 

 

That's how they get you!! 

 

6 hours ago, Brother Kraskor said:

I am constantly tempted by a cheeky Allied detachment!  But traitor EC don't play well with others. Maybe some daemons, but will have to wait and see what they look like.

 

How about some AoS cultists for a living wall (flesh within, flesh without?)

 

Also Glutos Orscollion, Lord of Gluttony's throne with Fabius Bile conversion as a display piece could be fabulous.

 

17 hours ago, Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf said:

But is just to give some use to some miniatures I own.

 

Excellent plan!

[Pacific81]

It seems the PDF I found for Militia is 2nd edition, not the new release. The legacies document also does not include them.

Does anyone know if there are rules within the Solar Auxilia book that could be co-opted for 'poor quality cannon fodder' militia troop types?

 

This is the previous doc that was released

https://assets.warhammer-community.com/horusheresy_legaciesoftheageofdarkness_imperialismilitia_eng_24.09-tyq53ht49b.pdf

[Shard of Magnus]

The 3.0 version was on the roadmap to be released this month. They missed the release date for the legacies doc so not sure if it be published by end of week or not.

 

Don’t remember any low quality troops in the Solar aux book that would serve.  But my book is at home and I’m stuck at work office.

[Gorgoff]

1 hour ago, Pacific81 said:

It seems the PDF I found for Militia is 2nd edition, not the new release. The legacies document also does not include them.

Does anyone know if there are rules within the Solar Auxilia book that could be co-opted for 'poor quality cannon fodder' militia troop types?

 

This is the previous doc that was released

https://assets.warhammer-community.com/horusheresy_legaciesoftheageofdarkness_imperialismilitia_eng_24.09-tyq53ht49b.pdf

 

Just wait a little bit.

[arnesh88]

My Salamanders and White Scars each have various builds to represent what they were during Horus Heresy, and I have allies that add to the flavor. For Salamanders, I have "before" and "after" Dropsite Massacre. For White Scars, I have Traitors version before Jaghatai Khan reprimanded them, and the Sagyar Mazan to attone for their rebellion.

• A mix of Solar Auxilia, Custodes, Assassinorum, and Mechanicus to represent the Salamanders after Drop Site Massacre being so badly destroyed that they are working alongside other desperate forces fighting off the traitors.
• Sons of Horus with a Dark Emissary to go alongside with the Traitor version of my White Scars, might expand them now that it's easier to include legion-specific units or something fancier.

Edited August 26 by arnesh88

[N1SB]

1st, I just want to say I love this thread.  The Allied Detachment lets me do a variety of small projects, who can also join together for a really big game.

 

14 hours ago, Gorgoff said:

 

Just wait a little bit.

 

It's a good thing you brought this up, Brother Gorgoff.  I saw the conversation about Stupified making Emperor's Children really good Objective Holders in:

 

If the Inductii share the Legion Tactics (they should, right?) as their older brethren...all I want are bodies in Power Armour to stand on an Objective.  I'd love to set up an Emperor's Children Inductii, probably in Mk VI armour to show they're really new, to be sacrifices on the altar of Objectives.

[N1SB]

Sooo...what do you think of the new Militias PDF as a smol Allied Detachment? :D

 

https://assets.warhammer-community.com/eng_aug25_thehorusheresy_legacies_militia-t5meeumjk6-p29qqcsrnh.pdf

Edited August 29 by N1SB

[Razorblade]

On 8/29/2025 at 5:57 AM, N1SB said:

Sooo...what do you think of the new Militias PDF as a smol Allied Detachment? :D

 

https://assets.warhammer-community.com/eng_aug25_thehorusheresy_legacies_militia-t5meeumjk6-p29qqcsrnh.pdf

Very little actually. They loose half their army rule without a high command slot, become super command-tax-inefficient without theor apex Detachments, lack any capabilities you can't get in legions and admech and tge cheap scoring fodder you'd naturally take them for is bad at scoring.

[N1SB]

15 hours ago, Razorblade said:

 you can't get in legions and admech and tge cheap scoring fodder you'd naturally take them for is bad at scoring.

 

That was the 1st thing I was looking at, too, like that weird Rite of Pure Thoughts for Levy Troops or whatever.  And realised for their points cost, like especially after the HQ tax like you say, I'd much rather have Tactical Marines...or wait to see what the Inductii PDF brings.  It's almost like they deliberately balanced the Militias PDF to avoid some janky loophole where you draw some cheap units like people did to create the Loyal 32 back in 8th or whatever.

 

In fact, if anything, the Militias seem more meant for Primary Detachments than Allied.  Ok!  My bad!  That said, would be happy if someone pointed out something neat.  I'd prefer to be wrong.  Like add some Squats or oooh, Beastmen, ya?  No srsly, pls shoot this point down, I want to see some fun stuff.

[Razorblade]

I guess you could do something really funny and run two baneblades at 2000 points. 

Legacy+Armory seems like the best combination of traits by a mile. The Quads and Venators actually look pretty decent for their points.

[Gorgoff]

17 hours ago, N1SB said:

 

That was the 1st thing I was looking at, too, like that weird Rite of Pure Thoughts for Levy Troops or whatever.  And realised for their points cost, like especially after the HQ tax like you say, I'd much rather have Tactical Marines...or wait to see what the Inductii PDF brings.  It's almost like they deliberately balanced the Militias PDF to avoid some janky loophole where you draw some cheap units like people did to create the Loyal 32 back in 8th or whatever.

 

In fact, if anything, the Militias seem more meant for Primary Detachments than Allied.  Ok!  My bad!  That said, would be happy if someone pointed out something neat.  I'd prefer to be wrong.  Like add some Squats or oooh, Beastmen, ya?  No srsly, pls shoot this point down, I want to see some fun stuff.

You can play 80 Ogryns and drown the table in a stampede of clueless but nonetheless angry morons eager to clubber everyone to death. 

If that isn't cool I don't know what is.

 

Cavalry looks neat as well and so do trikes. They spam bolter shots for very few points. Their psykers are also quite cheap. 

[Pacific81]

Ah @Gorgoff that is known as the 'Chelsea FC' ally swarm

 

I really like the amount of themes possible. I'm thinking of having a debased rabble, loads of guys in prison uniforms, that the SoH have released and are using as cannon fodder while trying to escape Terra.

[Galron]

I really like the allies rules. Im planning on a Tercio of Velatarius(sp?) with a 10 man command squad flying in three landers and a Lightning and Avenger with a bare bones command squad for the transports and fast attack as an ally unit for both my "Elysian" Militia guard force as the storm troopers and as 35 volkite charger boys and air support for my Salamander "drop" force. A lot of extra effective bodies doing some damage fairly cheap and my opponent has to choose whether to shoot the cheap but damaging storm troopers or the more valuable Salamanders who are also taking objectives.  

[N1SB]

On 9/1/2025 at 1:26 AM, Razorblade said:

Legacy+Armory seems like the best combination of traits by a mile. The Quads and Venators actually look pretty decent for their points.

 

On 9/1/2025 at 2:46 PM, Gorgoff said:

Cavalry looks neat as well and so do trikes. They spam bolter shots for very few points. Their psykers are also quite cheap. 

 

 

I'm listening to what you're saying about Provenances AND Unit combinations, and my mind is going to models like these, Brothers.  Just some minor conversion, like replacing those Cawdor models with Skitarii heads or something, oh my cog.  Oh man oh man.

 

Edited September 3 by N1SB

[Hfran Morkai]

I had it in my fluff that the Company I was collecting were big utilisers of Inter-Legion exchanges to learn from others (ironic given I'm sure I thought of that and then read about the Thousand Sons doing it, when I'm a Sixth player haha).

 

So my group was more interested in forward elements such as Recon and would have a Cadre of say, Raven Guard attached for a time (obviously I could go against the archetype too, a White Scars Artillery force or something). 

 

Because I have a fondness for most of the Legions and gives me a chance to collect a little of each.

[Cadmus Tyro]

I’m slowly digesting the militia rules currently, but I’m pleasantly surprised at its diversity. 
 

I have a couple of earthshaker emplacements that I wanted to use in my SA list and was disappointed they didn’t appear in the legacy document.

 

However I can include them in an allied militia list using the “armoury of old night” province can be used to boost the crew armour save to 4+ and being able to add discipline masters to each gun should solve the poor Ld characteristics. 

I think artillery is going to be an essential this edition. 
 

 

Cadmus 
 

 

[Brother Kraskor]

Well, the Daemon rules have pushed me over the edge to allies! Ordered a Daemon prince to run as my Hierarch. Fluffwise, he has preyed upon my EC siege company, whispering in their ears to unleash steadily more horrific weapons (phosphex, disintegrators, plasma bombards) until finally they're so depraved that they don't even recoil from the sight of him in battle. 
 

He'll run Raptorous Sensation (of course) to shoot up the field turn 1. Telekinesis, for the sweet Shroud 4+ (representing his speed and grace) and to chuck down the Pinning psychic weapons (representing his allure over mortals). He won't technically be a High Command of course but fluffwise, he's in charge.

 

Who knows, maybe down the line I'll add some daemon riders too to represent his honour guard. I've finally supped of the gateway drug of allies now! 

[PerfectChocolateMadeleine]

my traitor EC have mechanicum allies! it's something i've always wanted and i'm glad the new rules allow for such flexibility when it comes to allying different armies!