Price increase news

[Mogger351]

21 minutes ago, phandaal said:

 

We are not talking about GW's PR speak on Warcom. We are talking about what Games Workshop wrote in a document to the people who own their company, where they explicitly say how they plan to absorb tariff cost impacts (operational efficiency). Hell, they even hedge it a bit saying that it might take more than a year to implement their efficiencies. Weird thing to say if they planned on covering it with price rises, especially when they were up front later in the same paragraph on specifically where they did plan to raise prices.

 

You may not be aware of this, but there are legal consequences for being untruthful in an investor document. If you want to say the GW executive team is going to lie to their company owners in an official document then do not let me stop you, but that is a bit outside the scope of this thread yeah?

As N1SB highlights above, fulfilling a legal obligation and having legitimate changes are a thing. I've witnessed government funding for RND in tech sectors to introduce new ideas and opportunities  be legally and correctly allocated by the books for a near-finished product that was based off old tech, did nothing new and was shelved.

You are right GW are legally liable if they were to lie in that report, but writing it with intent and then having to adapt their real world plans to adhere as best they can is entirely valid. They can drive efficiencies all the like, but if some executive sees the gap and realises they minimise it via other routes, they absolutely will and they've not broken compliance. It'd be naïve to take it on face value they just decided to purely and singularly seek efficiencies to compensate for the massive additional cost.

[The Praetorian of Inwit]

This is nothing to do with tariffs. This is GW's annual price rise. Usually it tends to be in June. 

 

Given how they still continually sell out of most stuff I can't blame them. This isn't GW being malicious, it's just capitalism. 

[ZeroWolf]

5 minutes ago, The Praetorian of Inwit said:

This is nothing to do with tariffs. This is GW's annual price rise. Usually it tends to be in June. 

 

Given how they still continually sell out of most stuff I can't blame them. This isn't GW being malicious, it's just capitalism. 

It used to be even earlier, about end of February/ beginning of march time

[phandaal]

17 minutes ago, Mogger351 said:

As N1SB highlights above

 

Since you read part of his post, read the rest of it as well. What he said was that GW probably did find their efficiencies, or most of them, and we got the price rise anyway. That is what Games Workshop does: they raise prices because people buy things at higher prices. There is nothing conspiratorial or defamatory about knowing that. It is a normal and boring thing that happens in business.

 

13 minutes ago, The Praetorian of Inwit said:

This is nothing to do with tariffs. This is GW's annual price rise. Usually it tends to be in June. 

 

Given how they still continually sell out of most stuff I can't blame them. This isn't GW being malicious, it's just capitalism. 

 

Yeah it is not complicated, but the different reasons we come up with every year are entertaining at least. Maybe next year we can blame it on the 3I/Atlas flyby or chemtrails or something. 

[crimsondave]

7 hours ago, Wibbling said:

 

Well, no; gas and oil have been fairly stable since 2020. This is public information. It is subsidy for unreliables that has been increasing. 

Our wind farms are owned by multinationals - none of whom are based in the UK. 

 

I don't want to be political, but the facts refute that coventional fuels are even remotely a problem. 

You all can disagree with him all you want, but I’m a professional engineer (electrical) who’s been in the utility business for literally decades.  He’s right.

 

They’ve never been shy about raising prices before.  Maybe they just decided it was time.  The financial report that just came out was extremely impressive.  Not to mention that extremely expensive Kill Team box sold out in seconds most places.

Edited 16 hours ago by crimsondave

[SvenIronhand]

Well, that sucks.

[Mogger351]

27 minutes ago, phandaal said:

 

Since you read part of his post, read the rest of it as well. What he said was that GW probably did find their efficiencies, or most of them, and we got the price rise anyway. That is what Games Workshop does: they raise prices because people buy things at higher prices. There is nothing conspiratorial or defamatory about knowing that. It is a normal and boring thing that happens in business.

 

 

Yeah it is not complicated, but the different reasons we come up with every year are entertaining at least. Maybe next year we can blame it on the 3I/Atlas flyby or chemtrails or something. 

 

 

I mean I did, this was the conclusion:

 

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In conclusion, I thought GW's statement about finding inefficiencies to cover the extra Tariffs cost WAS their intention, but clearly aspirational rather than real. It was just too big a difference. And it's also absolutely possible that GW -did- find new efficiencies, and even counting those, you still got this price increase (it'd be even higher without them).

 

Agreeing which is more or less in the same ball park as what I was saying. They can write that they'll cover it with efficiencies but the scale makes it unlikely. If this would have been a 2 or 3% increase average without the tarrifs, you'd never know and if they made it larger accordingly, they've also not betrayed the intent of their report.

 

Either way, its nice to see people arguing that GW are the honest good guys for a change.

[Dark Shepherd]

8 hours ago, N1SB said:

Our Brothers saying it is part of Tariffs is right.  GW had announced it in the annual report under Tariffs:

 

 

Our Brothers saying it is totally unfair is also right, but it's not GW making the rules.  Tariffs are pre-paid.

 

As soon as the Tariffed goods arrive in that country's shore, they have to pay there and then.  If you've lived in a port city, there's a guy with this clipboard with all the different codes standing at the docks, like a Death Guard Tallyman.  So all worldwide customers are subsidising the ones in the Tariffing country until they actually buy it.

 

And if customers in the Tariffing country think that box of Marines is too expensive now, and it's unsold...the rest of us around the world still pays for that Tariff.  GW announcing it now is they already decided roughly how much they're shipping to the Tariffing country.  So in addition to the increased prices, expect shortages, because neither GW nor any Distributor in the Tariffing country wants to ship in too much...because they got to pay the Tariffs upfront, and if it's unsold...well...

 

(Rules As Written accounting-wise Tariffs are part of Cost of Goods Sold, which is used to determine prices.  It's not GW, it's not even greedflation.)

 

You can understand how it all works, and still be angry.  I know I am.  In fact, knowing makes me even angrier.  I've got these MBA-installed Butcher's Nails right now.  Even as I'm trying to articulate it now, I'm furious, I'm like Angron knowing full-well what's happening to him and he still wants to see the galaxy burn, even more so.

 

But don't direct your anger at each other, your Brothers are not your enemy.  The enemy is the Tariffs.

 

We at B&C rightly leave politics alone, GW is also leaving politics alone.  But politics won't leave us alone.

Death Guard Tallyman v Frank Sobotka in the Port of Baltimore is the TV show the world needs right now

[Doghouse]

9 hours ago, Joe said:

I wouldn't be so glad about investing in a printer, particularly for those based in the UK. With environmental mandates really starting to kick in from 2026 onwards you'll start to see the cost of resin shoot up in particular. It's already been trending up as is.

 

For me at the moment it's fine, I can currently get two 8k 1000g bottles for about the same as a box of Primaris marines currently and even if it went up to £40 a bottle I could still make maybe four times the number of models I'd get from a GW box of models. I personally prefer the freedom and choice it gives me over modern GW minis.

[Lord_Ikka]

To be fair to GW, they are not doing as big of a price hike as some other producers are (example - CGL is going up 10% for their Battletech stuff, though their models are produced in China), so they could have gone much higher. Not happy about it, but not surprised at all given all the issues with international trade and the UK's local power situation.