StrangerOrders Posted Sunday at 06:38 PM Share Posted Sunday at 06:38 PM I am very torn on Sicarius... the model is good, very good. But it weirdly seems more arrogant and grandstanding than his old model... idk, it doesn't radiate who Sicarius is in the current lore. I kind of expected a more subdued, world-weary model... this doesn't really convey his 'nihilistic contempt for everything and sardonically rolling with it' aura. I am going to guess this means UMs are going to ironically end up being a fully fledged splinter Marine faction now (can't really say non-Compliant)... which is more or less what I want for all the bloodlines anyway (a few unique chars and a bloodline-specific unit). Dual gladius is such an unreasonably cool thing, love it. Axes are also welcomed, a nice reversion to 30k. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/3/#findComment-6132074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Praetorian of Inwit Posted Sunday at 06:42 PM Share Posted Sunday at 06:42 PM The models look okay. I'm not overly impressed personally. Thankfully they will be much better when converted to Imperial Fists which shouldn't be too hard. I just feel bad for all the other characters that actually deserved an updated model. Not too mention certain factions still waiting for the other half of their army to turn up. It's just such an unnessacary release. Magos Takatus, Emicus, DarkChaplain and 3 others 1 3 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/3/#findComment-6132075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casual Heresy Posted Sunday at 06:42 PM Share Posted Sunday at 06:42 PM My personal review. New Calgar: not bad but I need to see it in person New Sicarius: an excellent update New Victrix Guard: DEaR EMPEROR ON HIS GOKDEN THRONE I AM IN LOVE!!!! Ahem… I foresee some expenditures in my future. darkhorse0607, skylerboodie, Subtleknife and 2 others 1 1 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/3/#findComment-6132076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lansalt Posted Sunday at 06:44 PM Share Posted Sunday at 06:44 PM These new models look amazing, a perfect modern recreation of their classic minis. But it's still weird that Calgar gets a new model in terminator armour and the gravis one is deprecated... Also, Sicarius should have a beard in the current timeline, IIRC? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/3/#findComment-6132077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CL_Mission Posted Sunday at 06:47 PM Share Posted Sunday at 06:47 PM 7 minutes ago, Mmmmm Napalm said: regarding the level of marine support versus other factions, we are in a much better place than we were a decade ago. multiple guard updates, a substantial sisters range, eldar updates, and cool one-offs like Navy Breachers, I have complaints with current 40k trends, but the amount of non-marine support isnt one of them, You're probably right, it's most likely recency bias on my part, all the marine stuff since wolves seems like one big run in my head and it feel like a lot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/3/#findComment-6132078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknife Posted Sunday at 06:48 PM Share Posted Sunday at 06:48 PM (edited) I am sorry GW for ever complaining about not updating the Ultramarines when the other first founding recently all got boxes and a new character . These new models are amazing and well worth the wait. Hats off to the designers and painters at GW. They all did great. Edited Sunday at 06:55 PM by Subtleknife DarkChaplain, HolyPestilience, darkhorse0607 and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/3/#findComment-6132079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted Sunday at 06:58 PM Share Posted Sunday at 06:58 PM I suppose the new Sicarius explains why they moved Calgar back to terminator. Leading the victrix guard is going to be Sicarus' stick Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/3/#findComment-6132084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephaston Posted Sunday at 06:58 PM Share Posted Sunday at 06:58 PM 18 minutes ago, StrangerOrders said: But it weirdly seems more arrogant and grandstanding than his old model... idk, it doesn't radiate who Sicarius is in the current lore. I kind of expected a more subdued, world-weary model... this doesn't really convey his 'nihilistic contempt for everything and sardonically rolling with it' aura. Those are all internal values which you can't really represent on his model without clashing with his actual rank, which necessitates a certain amount of bling. That said we can always paint him with a stubble and bags under his eyes. Dezron, StrangerOrders, Magos Takatus and 1 other 1 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/3/#findComment-6132085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoriyaSchism Posted Sunday at 07:07 PM Share Posted Sunday at 07:07 PM I can't seem to find the Gravis version of Calgar on the web store. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/3/#findComment-6132088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted Sunday at 07:10 PM Share Posted Sunday at 07:10 PM 2 minutes ago, MoriyaSchism said: I can't seem to find the Gravis version of Calgar on the web store. They removed it, no longer available, which would indicate Antilochus Calgar and co are going to arrive sooner than we might think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/3/#findComment-6132091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted Sunday at 07:11 PM Share Posted Sunday at 07:11 PM (edited) A much needed glow up for Calgar but he's still a tier below Helbrecht and Grimnar and even Ethan Shawn and Dante on the Chapter Master tier list. Edited Sunday at 07:13 PM by Wispy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/3/#findComment-6132092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexington Posted Sunday at 07:12 PM Share Posted Sunday at 07:12 PM (edited) I've long felt like the modern Ultramarines collect all of GW's gaudiest and least legible design tendencies into one unfortunate place, and this...continues to be true. Kind of a shame, the Gravis Calgar managed to depart from that and look like a humanoid form in armor, rather than an indistinguishable pile of bling. Helmet on that dual-wielding Champion looks neat, tho. Edited Sunday at 07:14 PM by Lexington Magos Takatus, Detjan and Crimson Longinus 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/3/#findComment-6132093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyari Posted Sunday at 07:25 PM Share Posted Sunday at 07:25 PM There's genuinely so much STUFF there that it makes me wnder if we're going to get a Codex: Ultramarines. Especially with the Vitrix Guard being multi-purpose like that. Give us a Malum Caedo though. Detjan and LSM 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/3/#findComment-6132096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus_Ex_Machina Posted Sunday at 07:25 PM Share Posted Sunday at 07:25 PM 4 hours ago, Madao said: If true, then it is a lost opportunity of bringing the old classic True. Gee-Dubbs, where is the half-Eldar Chief Librarian of the UM? Inquisitor lorr and lokkorex 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/3/#findComment-6132097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted Sunday at 07:31 PM Share Posted Sunday at 07:31 PM The topic title has been updated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/3/#findComment-6132099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NKirkham24 Posted Sunday at 07:33 PM Share Posted Sunday at 07:33 PM Surprise unveiling, love them all. Those victrix guard are amazing! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/3/#findComment-6132100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted Sunday at 07:39 PM Share Posted Sunday at 07:39 PM (edited) Of course, Sicarius has gold plated knee flanges. I don't understand GW and their constant push for that. Like, is it a design demand a chief executive brought from up on high or something? Or does the IP team go "knee flanges give us complete creative control over our Space Marines, as no one else for some reason puts them onto their flagship models. Or history for that matter. We're finally unique." Ha ha. Edited Monday at 09:02 PM by Captain Idaho Robbienw, Marshal Reinhard, LameBeard and 1 other 1 1 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/3/#findComment-6132101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NKirkham24 Posted Sunday at 07:40 PM Share Posted Sunday at 07:40 PM Also, this quote “As for what this means for the Space Marines of the Ultramarines Chapter, we’ll have more news later in the year.”. yes please Subtleknife, Casual Heresy and darkhorse0607 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/3/#findComment-6132102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassWave Posted Sunday at 07:47 PM Share Posted Sunday at 07:47 PM 36 minutes ago, DarkChaplain said: They removed it, no longer available, which would indicate Antilochus Calgar and co are going to arrive sooner than we might think. His gravis model is still available on the US website. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/3/#findComment-6132104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Warlord Posted Sunday at 07:47 PM Share Posted Sunday at 07:47 PM 4 hours ago, Nephaston said: That is a lot of writing for; Marneus Calgar, Chapter Master of the Ultramarines has more than one suit in his armoury. Now I kind of want Calgar in Phobos and Tacticus as well, just for the fun of it. Considering how many versions he's had compared to any other named space marine character. I see no reason not to give him a full wardrobe...... I'll go for the roman Toga version! Brother Carpenter 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/3/#findComment-6132105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted Sunday at 07:51 PM Share Posted Sunday at 07:51 PM 16 minutes ago, Lexington said: I've long felt like the modern Ultramarines collect all of GW's gaudiest and least legible design tendencies into one unfortunate place, and this...continues to be true. Kind of a shame, the Gravis Calgar managed to depart from that and look like a humanoid form in armor, rather than an indistinguishable pile of bling. Helmet on that dual-wielding Champion looks neat, tho. I definitely agree the Ultramarines are over decorated. should have got the Space Wolves less-is-more memo. Like the Head Takers (and Inner Circle Companions and Sword Brethren) are just right. We now live in a world where Ultramarines are more gaudy then Space Wolves. Plaguecaster, ThaneOfTas, Emicus and 2 others 4 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/3/#findComment-6132106 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted Sunday at 08:05 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:05 PM I think you're crazy lol The victrix are no more over the top. in fact they have similar details in similar placements. Hell if you look carefully, two on them have the same base leg & body poses (and the other has the blood claw pack leader pose!) Captain Idaho, Dezron, HolyPestilience and 9 others 1 1 10 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/3/#findComment-6132108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted Sunday at 08:12 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:12 PM (edited) 12 minutes ago, Blindhamster said: I think you're crazy lol The victrix are no more over the top. in fact they have similar details in similar placements. Hell if you look carefully, two on them have the same base leg & body poses (and the other has the blood claw pack leader pose!) The Victrix have way more ornate helmets on top of anything else. On top of filigree everywhere, there are 7 or 8 horseshoes on every model and more ornate weapons (also covered with horseshoes). To say nothing of the dual wielder, the ancient, and Cato who dial it even further. Edit: and the capes are much longer and the knees and legs have more iconography. Edited Sunday at 08:18 PM by Wispy Blindhamster and Emicus 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/3/#findComment-6132109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mecanojavi99 Posted Sunday at 08:15 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:15 PM While a good mini I still consider the new Calgar rather unnecessary. Sicarius is really good but the lack of a helmeted head annoys me. The Victrix/Command Squad is the biggest win out of this, but I'm curious how this will work rules wise, I imagine Victrix Guard will once again be a standalone unit instead of forming a unit with Calgar. Here's hoping GW also updates the Tyrannic War Veterans Odd-ad, Plaguecaster and Casual Heresy 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/3/#findComment-6132110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted Sunday at 08:20 PM Share Posted Sunday at 08:20 PM (edited) Literal honour guard to chapter high command (including primarch) may be slightly more decorated than other chapters non-body guard elites. Shocker. Edited Sunday at 08:20 PM by SkimaskMohawk Commissar Greif, darkhorse0607, DemonGSides and 7 others 1 1 8 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/3/#findComment-6132111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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