New Calgar, Sicarius, and Victrix Guard miniatures

[TheMawr]

14 minutes ago, BassWave said:

His gravis model is still available on the US website. 

 

These sold out online arent the best indicators in timing of things, there are too many factors at play (I think),

Regularily things are sold out online for a couple of months before the update drops, sometimes its the other way around.. and both co-exist ( in most recent example this happened with the Raveners.)

 

I think they weigh it all when they have to reproduce stock for an item, as this obviously cant be done on a one by one basis. So say they need to print at least 100, if the time comes for a decision and in the prior months it had an average sale of less than 30, the last casts will be made 4 months before the replacement hits. But if all 100 sell out before those 4 months are over, they wont cast new ones, even if it happened in the first month of the 4. At least, thats my theory. 

 

In some rare instances things popped back up online after being sold out online for a short moment before completely being removed ( Deathwatch veterans.) I have seen this one happen several times the past year or two, I assume this is the returned boxes from their physical stores piling up.

 

After typing all of this I realise Im not responding to whom I thought I was responding.. though above story still makes sense for your response.. when UK warehouse and stores are empty of a product, it doesnt mean the US warehouse is. Only if it was a simple button hitting decision ( with any leftover stock being destroyed ) would they be sold out online in all places. 

 

 

I think these are End of edition campaign associated miniatures. I think this ties in with the tomb worlds on ultramars vicinity awakening. ( KT Tomb world, KT Shadowhunt ) ofcourse this could still mean they also get a supplement codex if they keep their "no essential rules in campaign books" they promised during Arks of Omen ( but personally, I think that was just arks of omen, and there will be plenty add on rules this time around... detachments, combat patrols, Im half certain it will be psychic awakening style when it comes to rules, however while the rules where in AoS last campaign books, they did include the actual army supplements ( Ironjawz and Darkoath ) for free online, even with small relevant lore parts if memory serves me.)

But thats heading offtopic.

[Marshal Loss]

Much prefer him in Terminator armour to the Gravis sculpt, looks great.

[darkhorse0607]

Just now, TheMawr said:

I think these are End of edition campaign associated miniatures. I think this ties in with the tomb worlds on ultramars vicinity awakening.

 

Damnos round 2. Lets get Sicarius' PTSD rolling in full swing

 

It's a good point though, for all the speculating, we could be seeing these months ahead of schedule much like what happened with the Nightbringer

[Wispy]

18 minutes ago, SkimaskMohawk said:

Literal honour guard to chapter high command (including primarch) may be slightly more decorated than other chapters non-body guard elites. 

 

Shocker. 

The Inner Circle Companions work directly for Lion El'Jonson lol and they have a much better balance I think. They're all equivalent as far as the model lines are concerned anyways.

 

Anyways, I still think they are over decorated and declare victory of this argument just by the simply virtue of the excessive number of horseshoes GW thought these guys needed. It's Ultry McUltraUltrafacd!  If you disagree, well feel free to please use the 'Agree to Disagree' Reaction on me at your leisure as I revel in my smug correctness.

Edited Sunday at 08:39 PM by Wispy

[Odd-ad]

I like the models, and the over the top decoration sets the UM apart a little; all of the big 4/5 having their own styles works well.

 

BT: Tabards, chains, great helms, long sword belts, skulls/skeletons

BA: Half tabards/loincloths, "muscle" armour, death masks, wings

DA: Robes, hoods, winged helms, incense censers

SW: Furs, totems, runes, wolves, beards, round storm shields

UM: Cingulum militare (Roman belt), laurels, eagle-motif helms, tassels, bling (also their standard colour scheme being gold probably adds to that)

 

So I like that they're all unique, adds flavour without feeling redundant; even BT & DA feel different, despite both being knights/crusaders/warrior monks.

 

That said, I will confess I'd rather have seen a primaris version of Pedro Kantor and (non-primaris!) updated Gabriel Seth first.

 

No offence to Calgar/UM, but he's already got a good model, UM have loads of characters already, and getting a 2nd Calgar before Kantor or Seth feels a bit... I don't know, excessive?

Edited Sunday at 08:39 PM by Odd-ad
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[Redcomet]

Don’t really understand the need for these to be honest. Seems like resources that could have gone to another set of sprues instead.

 

But they look nice.

[Deus_Ex_Machina]

Hmm...are three-man squads popular in the gaming community?

[Wispy]

3 minutes ago, Deus_Ex_Machina said:

Hmm...are three-man squads popular in the gaming community?

As someone who just finished two squads who have a minimum roster of 10 models each, three man squads are popular with ME.

[Wispy]

You know what, they don't have backpack toppers so I'm willing to moderate my opinion a little bit. I still think the number of horseshoes is excessive tho.

[Cleon]

Well this makes me feel even worse about the bland Sanguinary Guard, but I wish I had the time to take these on as a fun project. Alas the backlog is too big.

[Orange Knight]

2 hours ago, Toxichobbit said:

 

Replacement. Gravis Calgar has gone from the webstore.

 

I genuinely don't believe this, but it could be true. This would have been the lowest lifespan model ever if so

[Halandaar]

7 minutes ago, Orange Knight said:

I genuinely don't believe this, but it could be true. This would have been the lowest lifespan model ever if so

 

The AoS Deathrattle Skeletons that came out this May replaced a kit that was only four years old. Gravis Calgar will be seven in December.

[ZeroWolf]

2 minutes ago, Halandaar said:

 

The AoS Deathrattle Skeletons that came out this May replaced a kit that was only four years old. Gravis Calgar will be seven in December.

Also, while not a full kit, do we all remember the unfortunate HH SW head upgrades that where quickly replaced after being mauled online

[Wispy]

13 minutes ago, Orange Knight said:

 

I genuinely don't believe this, but it could be true. This would have been the lowest lifespan model ever if so

Just checked and they're there on the Canadian webstore. 

 

(Also while lookin I appreciated the balance of the first go of the Primaris Victrix they did)

[Halandaar]

Also, it really is impressive how the Sanguinary Guard are getting worse with every new Marine release.

[nodnol88]

Need to see the datasheet for the new Victrix Guard, but it looks like I’ll get 6. Need all those options! 

[jaxom]

1 hour ago, Captain Idaho said:

Of course, Sicarius has gold plated knee flanges. 

 

I don't understand GW and their constant push for that. Like, is it a design demand a chief executive brought from up on high or something?

 

Or does the IP team go "knee flanges give us complete creative control over our Space Marines, as no one else for some reason puts them onto their flagship models. Of history for that matter. We're finally unique."

 

Ha ha.

I assume it’s part of Jes Goodwin’s Rules For Designing Modern Marines(c).

[Indy Techwisp]

So Ultramarines now have Guilliman, Calgar, Cato, Tigereus and these Honour Guard.

Any other Ultramarine specific units?

 

If this is leading to Ultramarines being spun out into a proper Standalone Codex Supplement, then which Marines are gonna be the face of "Generic LSM"?

Can't go back to Dark Angels because they're also a supplement...

[CL_Mission]

2 minutes ago, Indy Techwisp said:

So Ultramarines now have Guilliman, Calgar, Cato, Tigereus and these Honour Guard.

Any other Ultramarine specific units?

 

If this is leading to Ultramarines being spun out into a proper Standalone Codex Supplement, then which Marines are gonna be the face of "Generic LSM"?

Can't go back to Dark Angels because they're also a supplement...

Crimson Fists. Have the 11th edition stuff done up in Crimson Fists colours and have a new Pedro Kantor release at the same time.

[Ayatollah_of_Rock_n_Rolla]

I thinkt that they should have updated the Banner of Macragge. The graphic aged very poorly  and somehow they still managed to make it look even more clunky. There's no inuniverse reason to keep reproducing the old design.

[Wispy]

12 minutes ago, Indy Techwisp said:

So Ultramarines now have Guilliman, Calgar, Cato, Tigereus and these Honour Guard.

Any other Ultramarine specific units?

 

If this is leading to Ultramarines being spun out into a proper Standalone Codex Supplement, then which Marines are gonna be the face of "Generic LSM"?

Can't go back to Dark Angels because they're also a supplement...

These are all traditional Ultramarine characters and kits that have been living out Codex Space Marine for ages. Certainly since the 5th Edition Codex which was my first taste of 40k, that codex always screamed Ultramarines and Friends to me. In fact they are down 2 characters - Telion and the tank guy (Chronus?).

 

This is shaping up to the most 5th Edition release ever actually. He'stan, Lysander, and Cato back. Suboden Khan on Grab bike isn't Ko'Sarro on Moondrakken but it's close enough. Just missing Pedro.

Edited Sunday at 09:53 PM by Wispy

[redmapa]

6 minutes ago, CL_Mission said:

Crimson Fists. Have the 11th edition stuff done up in Crimson Fists colours and have a new Pedro Kantor release at the same time.

 

With the rumors for the 11th edition starter box being SM vs Orks this makes a lot of sense.

[SvenIronhand]

12 minutes ago, Ayatollah_of_Rock_n_Rolla said:

I thinkt that they should have updated the Banner of Macragge. The graphic aged very poorly  and somehow they still managed to make it look even more clunky. There's no inuniverse reason to keep reproducing the old design.

Other than, y’know, it being the honored standard of a First Founding Chapter.

[Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf]

Cato Sicarius with two unhelmeted head options: open mouth and close mouth.

 

 

Weird.

[Orange Knight]

Ok, I've finally had a proper look at these.

 

The new Calgar is a downgrade over the Gravis model in my eyes, but there isn't much in it and other will probably feel different. 

 

Sicarius is excellent - one of the better named Captains.

 

The Victrix guard are pretty spectacular. The banner is incredible, the champion looks superb. Is this one unit with lots of variation or are we looking at two different units built from the same kit?

 

I'm happy to see this release. My hope is that one day all the Codex chapters have at least 3 named heroes and one unique infantry/vehicle unit associated with each one.