Marshal Mittens Posted Sunday at 10:24 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:24 PM The Black Templar update was great. The Dark Angels update was great. The Space Wolves upgrade was great. And I am in love with these new Ultramarines. They look amazing. The Blood Angels...got an upgrade. Well, an update. Blood Angels players must be heated. skylerboodie, HolyPestilience, Karhedron and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/5/#findComment-6132154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castellan Wulfrik Posted Sunday at 10:27 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:27 PM "Ultramarines Chapter, we’ll have more news later in the year" Tyrannic War Veterans and Casssius?! My Ultrapants can't handle any more. I understand why people are a bit salty with Ultramarines getting things before other chapters or factions but they are probably the most collected sub-faction, if not faction in general, in the entire GW library. This is the first time since 4th/5th they've been treated as such so I think it's entirely warranted. They deserve to be treated at least the same as the non-compliant chapters. As someone who started with 4th Edition that Calgar and Honour Guard set was a huge inspiration to me in the hobby even if I never ended up owning it myself. It was iconic and probably the best set of metal miniatures they had ever released until that point. To see it reimagined faithfully with normal sized bolters, despite the silly knees and MkX, is Ultraglorious. Godspeed to Matt Ward wherever he is I'm sure he's happy. Brother Paint, Marshal Mittens and Subtleknife 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/5/#findComment-6132155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrkPlayer137 Posted Sunday at 10:33 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:33 PM Strangely, the original Honour Guard set is still available in Finecast from the GW store! Odd that the rules went to Legends a long time ago when they are still on sale. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/5/#findComment-6132157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneOfTas Posted Sunday at 10:34 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:34 PM (edited) Well I think that Caldar is a major improvement, far better pose, and not in gravis which is always a plus. Sicarius is good, a faithful update. The Vitrix guard are incredible. As a Warhammer fan I'm very impressed and happy. As a Blood Angels player I am reaching heretofore unknown depths of envy and rage. What the happened with ours? Because clearly GW still know what they're doing some of the time Edited Monday at 12:27 AM by ThaneOfTas Marshal Mittens, darkhorse0607 and Karhedron 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/5/#findComment-6132159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFingers Posted Sunday at 10:36 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:36 PM 4 minutes ago, Castellan Wulfrik said: "Ultramarines Chapter, we’ll have more news later in the year" Tyrannic War Veterans and Casssius?! My Ultrapants can't handle any more. I wouldn't make any leaps like that. Only Calgar got leaked, yet they chose to show Sicarius and the Victrix Guard as well. If they had more to show besides them, either they'd have only revealed Calgar or revealed everything because they might as well, don't you think? And besides, the whole quote from the article is "As for what this means for the Space Marines of the Ultramarines Chapter, we’ll have more news later in the year". Sounds to me like "this release has a larger context besides the models but you're all going to have to wait for that because this reveal shouldn't have happened yet". My bet is these models are the first release to go with whatever the end-of-edition narrative series is going to be. Karhedron and Detjan 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/5/#findComment-6132160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova-V Posted Sunday at 10:38 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:38 PM Models look fine I guess, not really much to write home about. A very Ultramarines by the numbers release. Biggest problem is these models getting new sculpts when the current ones are not that old and are perfectly serviceable. Its a bit of a kick in the teeth of other factions who are getting codex options entirely cut because they haven't been converted to plastic. Surely the resources for these unnecessary results could have gone towards units that actually needed updating. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/5/#findComment-6132161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
roryokane Posted Sunday at 10:47 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:47 PM By the Risen Primarch, this is FANTASTIC. I’m really not sure which one I like best! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/5/#findComment-6132163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted Sunday at 10:51 PM Share Posted Sunday at 10:51 PM (edited) I don't feel anyone should be complaining. When you consider the Blood Angel, Space Wolf, Dark Angel and Black Templar ranges, this still isn't as significant. I understand the Ultramarines are very popular and that their models always sell well. I'm only irked to see perfectly good, recent models getting updates (Calgar) when others are languishing (Kantor). But again, I understand that Calgar is a legendary hero. If the Ultramarines receive another unit, say.. Tyrannic War Veterans (which is possible) then we just need to think of them in the same way we do of the other chapters I mentioned above. They probably should get their own supplement at this point considering the size of their range: Guilliman Calgar Gravis Calgar Terminator + Bodyguards Cato Sicarius Uriel Ventris Tigurius Titus Ferrein Aeros Victrix Guard Edit: Guilliman probably needed an update more than Calgar... Edited Sunday at 11:10 PM by Orange Knight Subtleknife 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/5/#findComment-6132164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted Sunday at 11:12 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:12 PM 48 minutes ago, Orange Knight said: The Victrix guard are pretty spectacular. The banner is incredible, the champion looks superb. Is this one unit with lots of variation or are we looking at two different units built from the same kit? the leg poses of the three normal victrix guard look very similiar to the three with the banner and dual gladius champion Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/5/#findComment-6132165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted Monday at 12:02 AM Share Posted Monday at 12:02 AM 5 hours ago, Lord Nord in Gravis Armour said: New Smurfs Confirmed. IT IS I, CATO SICARIUS! Subtleknife, Casual Heresy, Wolf Guard Dan and 3 others 1 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/5/#findComment-6132170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Greif Posted Monday at 12:57 AM Share Posted Monday at 12:57 AM Figured GW's special good boy chapter was going to get something sooner or later. And wow, did they get SOMETHING. These are some really solid looking models. Sicarius and the Victrix Guard are real standouts here. Casual Heresy 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/5/#findComment-6132174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted Monday at 02:16 AM Share Posted Monday at 02:16 AM I think the banding is well done on the Victrix models. Not sure where people think this is too detailed. Personally I would have gone ham like this: MoriyaSchism, Subtleknife, CL_Mission and 6 others 9 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/5/#findComment-6132179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapter master 454 Posted Monday at 02:39 AM Share Posted Monday at 02:39 AM Looks good. Kind of prefer the terminator armour personally but I do enjoy the gravis armour harking to the 3rd edition artificer armour variant. Lots of questions do surround this...in all places. Didn't his Antilochus armour get merged into the new hercules armour when he went primaris? Is this him being like "yo, this gravis armour don't protect" and wanted his terminator armour back? Personally, I hope we get Calgar on his own as a datasheet again...the amount of annoyance I have with current iteration of "bodyguard" rules is just...comical...bodyguards...right? so why is Calgar currently the one TANKING MY WHOLE SHOOTING PHASE? Calgar pulling uno reverse cards on his honour guard who try to shield him Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/5/#findComment-6132181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephaston Posted Monday at 03:00 AM Share Posted Monday at 03:00 AM minicompare got updated and hot damn, chapter banners honestly need to be this big BadgersinHills, ZeroWolf, lansalt and 7 others 2 1 6 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/5/#findComment-6132183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted Monday at 05:03 AM Share Posted Monday at 05:03 AM 8 hours ago, Blindhamster said: I think you're crazy lol The victrix are no more over the top. in fact they have similar details in similar placements. Hell if you look carefully, two on them have the same base leg & body poses (and the other has the blood claw pack leader pose!) The repeated use of poses now absolutely kills me. divad8 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/5/#findComment-6132190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneOfTas Posted Monday at 05:32 AM Share Posted Monday at 05:32 AM 2 hours ago, Nephaston said: minicompare got updated and hot damn, chapter banners honestly need to be this big Oooh man, I may need to get this kit and fire up my Dremel, I love a good banner CL_Mission 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/5/#findComment-6132192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emicus Posted Monday at 05:43 AM Share Posted Monday at 05:43 AM 9 hours ago, mecanojavi99 said: While a good mini I still consider the new Calgar rather unnecessary. Sicarius is really good but the lack of a helmeted head annoys me. The Victrix/Command Squad is the biggest win out of this, but I'm curious how this will work rules wise, I imagine Victrix Guard will once again be a standalone unit instead of forming a unit with Calgar. Here's hoping GW also updates the Tyrannic War Veterans He's going to wear that helmet even if it means he carries his own head. Fortunately the solution is easy, 'simply' sculpt a Winged Victory...... Rhavien and Subtleknife 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/5/#findComment-6132193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emicus Posted Monday at 05:47 AM Share Posted Monday at 05:47 AM 2 hours ago, Nephaston said: minicompare got updated and hot damn, chapter banners honestly need to be this big Truly a glorious banner but I suspect leaded base will be necessary. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/5/#findComment-6132195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Carpenter Posted Monday at 06:13 AM Share Posted Monday at 06:13 AM (edited) That tactical rock is not plastic.... Edited Monday at 06:14 AM by Brother Carpenter LameBeard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/5/#findComment-6132197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted Monday at 06:15 AM Share Posted Monday at 06:15 AM Seeing the leak made me realise we've moved past all of the previewed content now. I'm including Drukhari in this, but we had this similar sort of dry spell last year where there was only 1 release to go for the year and we knew what it was. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/5/#findComment-6132199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephaston Posted Monday at 06:34 AM Share Posted Monday at 06:34 AM 18 minutes ago, Brother Carpenter said: That tactical rock is not plastic.... It looks slightly odd, since it's edited out of the scenic image with all the extra rubble. The proper tactical masonry is visible on the thumbnail of the article. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/5/#findComment-6132200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
siegfriedfr Posted Monday at 06:46 AM Share Posted Monday at 06:46 AM The new Calgar looks great, just like all the new upscaled Terminator models really. They are really backtracking hard on the whole Primaris blunder. I understand it was a marketing scheme to make people buy the new models, or make them accept the demise of MK7, but we are that close to the "Primaris moment" being retconned from the Lore in a few editions. They are THAT close to selling a kit of Mk7-sized helmets for every MK X marines. phandaal, LameBeard, DemonGSides and 4 others 1 1 1 3 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/5/#findComment-6132202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rawmel Posted Monday at 06:59 AM Share Posted Monday at 06:59 AM 8 hours ago, Castellan Wulfrik said: "Ultramarines Chapter, we’ll have more news later in the year" Tyrannic War Veterans and Casssius?! My Ultrapants can't handle any more. I understand why people are a bit salty with Ultramarines getting things before other chapters or factions but they are probably the most collected sub-faction, if not faction in general, in the entire GW library. This is the first time since 4th/5th they've been treated as such so I think it's entirely warranted. They deserve to be treated at least the same as the non-compliant chapters. As someone who started with 4th Edition that Calgar and Honour Guard set was a huge inspiration to me in the hobby even if I never ended up owning it myself. It was iconic and probably the best set of metal miniatures they had ever released until that point. To see it reimagined faithfully with normal sized bolters, despite the silly knees and MkX, is Ultraglorious. Godspeed to Matt Ward wherever he is I'm sure he's happy. There might be something interesting regarding Cassius, I saw this instagram post two months ago from one of the concept artists for the SM2 episode of Secret Level where he got to design some side characters who had the potential of showing up in the episode and one of them is this Primaris Cassius. Now this could just be a nothingburger since we don't know how far into production this concept got before it was shelved (appropriately considering the Secret Level episode was chaos-focused as opposed to Tyranids) so we don't know how much if at all input GW had with this idea, but the fact that it appeared in some capacity within official media kinda gives me some naïve hope that maybe primaris Cassius is possible.. Subtleknife, ZeroWolf, HolyPestilience and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/5/#findComment-6132209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magos Takatus Posted Monday at 07:13 AM Share Posted Monday at 07:13 AM Hmm. As someone that remembers the 2nd edition Calgar sculpt most fondly the Gravis upgrade tickles my memberberries more than this version. It's not a bad sculpt, but I think it's an unnecessary downgrade. The legs look pretty bland compared to the gravis plated legs in my opinion and I feel the pose is a little uninspiring. As for the rest, yes, very nice, but I have to be clear that I am biased and have acute Ultrafatigue at this point, even though Horus Heresy sidelined them and we are getting love for other chapters more often now, it's still not healed yet. LSM 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/5/#findComment-6132216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroWolf Posted Monday at 07:25 AM Share Posted Monday at 07:25 AM 21 minutes ago, siegfriedfr said: The new Calgar looks great, just like all the new upscaled Terminator models really. They are really backtracking hard on the whole Primaris blunder. I understand it was a marketing scheme to make people buy the new models, or make them accept the demise of MK7, but we are that close to the "Primaris moment" being retconned from the Lore in a few editions. They are THAT close to selling a kit of Mk7-sized helmets for every MK X marines. More like GW learned how to have their cake and eat it. By dropping the labels (First born this, Primaris that) from the rules and descriptions (it's very much a lore thing in books, no changing that now) then there is no difference in models except armour type...which GW have also started mixing up. I suspect that the Primaris treatment will become a standard part of space marine creation in lore with survival rates going to 100% (which let's face it were always going to be the case as no main named characters ever died from it). Thus all marines will be special which means none are special again...err aside from BA, DA, SW and BT of course. Mechanicus Tech-Support, DemonGSides, LameBeard and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386682-new-calgar-sicarius-and-victrix-guard-miniatures/page/5/#findComment-6132218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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