Tell us on what occasion you have been priced out by GW

[Scribe]

7 hours ago, Lathe Biosas said:

For me, it has been a lack of availability that's slowly killed my urge to build/play 40k proper.

 

I've been defeated by the "Temporarily Out of Stock," condition on the GW site for almost a year now.

 

Big agree. This killed BL and GW proper for me, as any time I had the actual urge it was 'uhh...sold out?'

 

Wardogs, man how long were those out of stock?

[Gorgoff]

Although I know that GW is a multi billion pounds worth corporation which sells I don't know how many million models each year I still find it baffling whenever I hear that some people really order their stuff from them. 

[DemonGSides]

Yeah I haven't gotten anything from GW proper besides the WH+ stuff since pre-covid. Always easier and cheaper to find stuff elsewhere, even if it's just Amazon. 

[Firedrake Cordova]

I'm quite fortunate in that it hasn't happened yet, although, like @NovemberIX, I'm also thinking I'm probably not their target any more - I've built up a fairly sizeable collection across various systems over the last ~35 years, and have gotten to the point where I really don't need any more models, really. I've also found that I prefer skirmish-scale games to the larger games (in terms of gameplay, etc - Apocalypse always "looked cool" but I felt it was better-suited to Epic-scale), which changes the arithmetic somewhat.

 

5 hours ago, Gorgoff said:

I still find it baffling whenever I hear that some people really order their stuff from them. 

As odd as it may sound, sometimes they're the cheapest/easiest option, especially when you're looking at the "Online Only" items, or live/work within walking distance of a store (UK independent stores tend to have higher free postage thresholds than GW combined with low discounts on those items)

Edited October 23 by Firedrake Cordova

[Scribe]

5 hours ago, Gorgoff said:

Although I know that GW is a multi billion pounds worth corporation which sells I don't know how many million models each year I still find it baffling whenever I hear that some people really order their stuff from them. 

 

In my case, it was trying to support the local shop, to keep the lights on.

[Arikel]

5 hours ago, Gorgoff said:

Although I know that GW is a multi billion pounds worth corporation which sells I don't know how many million models each year I still find it baffling whenever I hear that some people really order their stuff from them. 

I’d say I purchase from one of my 3 local game stores 90% of the time. I’ve also scored some good second hand deals from the quebec warhammer sales group.

The closest warhammer shop is 2 hours away from me, though if I’m travelling I will pilgrimage into one to have a look if therr is one in the place I am visiting, and usually buy something while there.

 

I have yet to purchase anything directly from the GW site, though may get some of the online only resin stuff in the future. The made to order stuff is often tempting but so far it’s always come when I don’t have the money to spend , and the window for orders is always too short to be able to when I do have cash on hand. I really wanted to order some of those terrain pieces they had a few months back, but simply didn’t have the money available till the campaign had ended.

Honestly I think gw should look into a 3D printing service for their back catalogue of oop terrain and minis instead of the made to order one off campaigns. Seems like something that would at least pay for itself, while keeping older models available and the subscriber base happier, and if easy to access with relatively reasonable pricing, would likely reduce piracy issues.

[The Neverborn]

Priced out BY GW - maybe.

But I've discovered the joy of others people's piles of plastic shame! 

I'm having a great time wheeling and dealing my way two a fully second-hand army. Some are still BNIB others NOS. 

For whatever reason this hobby has a lot people with impulse control problems, combine that with a extremely effective GW marketing team and there's a lot people keen to get rid of the 1k, 2k even 3k or 4k armies they bought then decided they didn't want.

 

[Arikel]

1 minute ago, The Neverborn said:

Priced out BY GW - maybe.

But I've discovered the joy of others people's piles of plastic shame! 

I'm having a great time wheeling and dealing my way two a fully second-hand army. Some are still BNIB others NOS. 

For whatever reason this hobby has a lot people with impulse control problems, combine that with a extremely effective GW marketing team and there's a lot people keen to get rid of the 1k, 2k even 3k or 4k armies they bought then decided they didn't want.

 

Warhammer (and similar things in the rpg/tabletop/boardgaming genres)  is and has always been something that attracts the neurodivergent, especially ADHD/ Autistic types. We aren’t always that great on control, especially if hyperfocused.

 

I bought hundreds of rpg books (mostly d&d and vampire) despite not always people to play with, sometimes for years in between groups. Same with warhammer when I finally opened up to it. Never been one to sell my stuff, though my rpg collection is currently donated to my dm as ge has a proper cave and shelves to store it.

 

Between my playgroup, we’ve likely spent hundreds, perhaps thousands of dollars notvonly on huge piles of shame/potential, but also board games that look cool but that we haven’t even played.

 

Some people sell when the focus leaves, but I’m a bit of a hoarder. I also know my focus will always come back in a fee months years, so would rather have stuff on hand rather than wishing I hadn’t gotten rid of my army, as I’ve seen happen to some people.

[phandaal]

40 minutes ago, The Neverborn said:

For whatever reason this hobby has a lot people with impulse control problems, combine that with a extremely effective GW marketing team and there's a lot people keen to get rid of the 1k, 2k even 3k or 4k armies they bought then decided they didn't want.

 

Yeah if you do want to keep buying GW kits, watching Facebook groups is great way to get cheap minis.

 

There is a good chance those "look at the 20 boxes I just bought lolol can't wait to play my new army" posts will be followed a few months later with "need to sell some minis, times are tight and some things came up." Bingo, thanks for the 60% discount!

 

At most you will have to take a couple of half-assembled, maybe base coated minis in the lot, and the rest will be fully unpainted, on the sprue, or even still in the box.

[The Neverborn]

Yep exactly this - some people hold their guns no splits.

 

I’ve been blogging my journey 

 

Shameless plug:

 

A lot of the time you can negotiate with them - most people aren’t going to drop 1200 bucks in one go so I buy splits.

 

if you hate building (and I do) built/unpainted is a very common state 

 

only 1 model I’ve bought was pre-painted but it was either an airbrush 

In summary very good way to get 50% off retail

[The Praetorian of Inwit]

Lack of availability is hugely frustrating. It's like at any one time GW has about half their entire product line out of stock. The situation seems to be just as bad for third parties too. 

[Scribe]

Me, at the FLGS today.

 

$70 for a Codex I know damn well was invalidated with a day 0 update?

 

LOL

[Kommisar_K]

I started collecting Imperial Guard when the new Krieg came out. Never bothered with the codex though. With my slow income (neighborhood yard work is not particularly lucrative, even for a highschooler) I will never be able to collect, build and paint a playable army by the beginning of 11th ed. Therefore, GW can keep its IG codex. I'll get the same lore and new rules sometime next edition 

[Arikel]

6 minutes ago, Kommisar_K said:

I started collecting Imperial Guard when the new Krieg came out. Never bothered with the codex though. With my slow income (neighborhood yard work is not particularly lucrative, even for a highschooler) I will never be able to collect, build and paint a playable army by the beginning of 11th ed. Therefore, GW can keep its IG codex. I'll get the same lore and new rules sometime next edition 

I’ve been working on a full company for 20ish years now. Everything I had was still technically fully playable right up until 10th edition codex dropped and they scrapped the index. Now I require legends for pretty much half of my stuff at least and I still haven’t finished the freakin company yet :p. Still working on it though. Got all the firstborn bodies I need, but missing a few bikes and rhino based vehicles for what I wanted.

 

it’ll happen someday. Maybe I’ll paint more than 3 primaris marines someday. One never knows what will happen in this land of imagination and the far future.

[Kommisar_K]

17 minutes ago, Arikel said:

I’ve been working on a full company for 20ish years now. Everything I had was still technically fully playable right up until 10th edition codex dropped and they scrapped the index. Now I require legends for pretty much half of my stuff at least and I still haven’t finished the freakin company yet :p. Still working on it though. Got all the firstborn bodies I need, but missing a few bikes and rhino based vehicles for what I wanted.

 

it’ll happen someday. Maybe I’ll paint more than 3 primaris marines someday. One never knows what will happen in this land of imagination and the far future.

Oof. Yeah I know the feeling. Been collecting & playing Salamanders since mid 8th ed and even my humble collection has suffered some legends-ing. If the more vague rumors bear fruit I might 'lose' a few more units come 11th. Hopefully not, but hey - right now they're just rumors.The Emperor protects, brother!

Edited October 28 by Kommisar_K

[The Neverborn]

Part of my ork Project  is building an "eternal army"  -Stick with me 

I started  40k back in 2nd Edition with Eldar - if you know the faction there are units in the army that while have rarely if ever been "top" tier have never been "unplayable".

Think a Guardian Defender based army, Dark Reapers, Farseers and Warlocks forming the outer-core. You would need a few other things but if that had been the "core" of your army you could have played from 2nd to 10th with minimal new investments per edition. - those 4 have never been rendered "invalid". New sculps but they are rare - and probably optional  

This is the challenge I'm going for in my Ork Project - attempting to find the forever 6 or 7 out of 10 units. My army will never been optimal but should aways be playable.

The hyper balance of competitive lead games design is something i might benefit from.

- Avoid being priced out by reducing the risk of buying things which swing from good to bad frequently - maybe keep a MSU of those - if you like the sculps. 

You can't be priced out if you need to buy nothing. - Maybe the codex/rule book but that's a once a 3 to 5 year investment. 

Edited October 29 by The Neverborn

[phandaal]

2 hours ago, The Neverborn said:

You can't be priced out if you need to buy nothing. - Maybe the codex/rule book but that's a once a 3 to 5 year investment. 

 

Or - just do not play the new edition. Keep playing older editions, use fan-made rulesets like Prohammer, alternative rulesets like Xenos Rampant or OPR, et cetera.

 

If you are going to ditch the hamster wheel, go all the way!

[Halandaar]

1 hour ago, phandaal said:

 

Or - just do not play the new edition. Keep playing older editions, use fan-made rulesets like Prohammer, alternative rulesets like Xenos Rampant or OPR, et cetera.

 

If you are going to ditch the hamster wheel, go all the way!

 

While I agree with that in principle (and it certainly works for me), it's probably the one aspect people might feel they don't have much personal control over. Miniatures wise we can draw our own lines where ever we want, simply stop buying new and use our existing collections, but if your only source of games using those miniatures is a group that's always on the latest edition of the game you might be in a position where it's that or nothing.

[Rain]

I’ve been less so priced out than timed out. Between work, a family, and other activities, I don’t have much time to build and paint, and building/painting is very time consuming. Just clipping, cleaning mold lines, gluing, and gap filling takes hours per box before the models even see paint. Then, painting takes even longer. Gotta love all of the metallic trim on Chaos models. I never bought Angron for my World Eaters because I just could not be bothered to build and paint such a large model, it would end up taking me 2 months+ for a single model, and I’d get burned out.

 

Also, to prevent burnout, I would generally only buy 1 or 2 individual unit boxes as a time for my World Eaters, and not buy another until the prior unit(s) were fully done. I’m now very slowly starting Emperor’s Children (because I love the exquisite pain of playing unsupported afterthought armies) and bought a Combat Patrol because it’s a good deal. Built and painted the Exaltant as a test of my scheme, and to motivate myself, but the whole box probably won’t be finished before 2026. We’ll see.

[phandaal]

1 hour ago, Halandaar said:

 

While I agree with that in principle (and it certainly works for me), it's probably the one aspect people might feel they don't have much personal control over. Miniatures wise we can draw our own lines where ever we want, simply stop buying new and use our existing collections, but if your only source of games using those miniatures is a group that's always on the latest edition of the game you might be in a position where it's that or nothing.

 

This is true, but you might be surprised at just how many people are playing games without using the latest incarnation of the rules, or are at least interested in doing so.

[Ripper.McGuirl]

Being priced out for me is more of a case-by-case cost/benefit check. These days if I pick something up, it’s a large box at discount. Those tend to be the best bang for the buck (assuming you want everything).
There have been LOTS of kits over the past couple years where I’ve been excited about them, saw the price, and then put them out of mind forever.

[lhg033]

5 hours ago, The Neverborn said:

Part of my ork Project  is building an "eternal army"  -Stick with me 

I started  40k back in 2nd Edition with Eldar - if you know the faction there are units in the army that while have rarely if ever been "top" tier have never been "unplayable".

Think a Guardian Defender based army, Dark Reapers, Farseers and Warlocks forming the outer-core. You would need a few other things but if that had been the "core" of your army you could have played from 2nd to 10th with minimal new investments per edition. - those 4 have never been rendered "invalid". New sculps but they are rare - and probably optional  

This is the challenge I'm going for in my Ork Project - attempting to find the forever 6 or 7 out of 10 units. My army will never been optimal but should aways be playable.

The hyper balance of competitive lead games design is something i might benefit from.

- Avoid being priced out by reducing the risk of buying things which swing from good to bad frequently - maybe keep a MSU of those - if you like the sculps. 

You can't be priced out if you need to buy nothing. - Maybe the codex/rule book but that's a once a 3 to 5 year investment. 

 

I can relate to this with Orks specifically too!

 

Those 6-7 units.....

Warboss

6x 20-30 Boyz

 

 

 

 

 

 

[appiah4]

I haven't bought a single thing since buying the Imperial half of Dark Imperium.  Since then, I sold off most of that, as well as a good deal of my oldbarine backlog (including an unstarted Deathwatch army, a lot of DA plastics, etc.) retaining some oldmarine stuff (mostly vehicles) to finish my BA army and only enough Primaris to build an Angels of Death Kill Team in case I have no one to play anything else with.

 

It wasn't the price alone, but the price was definitely pretty ridiculous compared to other games I was enjoying a million times more at the time, particularly Infinity.  The way they butchered the lore, and the aesthetic U-turn they took were what pushed me off the cliff, the price was the rock tied to my feet.

Edited Thursday at 07:51 AM by appiah4

[Lathe Biosas]

When I moved across the US, I lost 98% of my Warhammer/Battletech models to the Warp.

 

All the books made it fine, just my models didn't make it. 

 

So, for the past 3 months, I've been contemplating rebuilding. It's just so frigging expensive.

 

My Custodes wouldn't be too bad to replace as they were a lot of 3rd party proxies... but my blue HH era House Taranis Knights... so much time and money was tied up into them. 

 

Argh. 

 

So, I built a WarCry force and painted them up. Gladitorium Fighters. Cheap and easy. Too bad no one plays. 

 

And now I'm converting Kasrkins and Tempestus Aquilons into Inquisitorial Stormtroopers for Kill Team.

 

I want to play 40k again, but when I look at all the vehicles, and how much things cost. I get depressed.

 

Maybe someday, I'll play again. But not right now.

 

It's just too much.

 

 

 

 

[Chaoswolf]

A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away..........sorry, wrong IP.

 

It was somewhere in the middle of 6th ed.  when GW and it's pricing policies marked my end as a customer. 

And yes, I was priced out. I could still afford stuff; I just decided I wasn't paying what they wanted anymore. 

 

I still get some of thier stuff occasionally,  but it's all second hand and mostly just for modeling projects.