HeadlessCross Posted Wednesday at 02:58 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:58 AM Valrak did a video. Here's the handy dandy link: And here's the important bit from said video. It's important to note that the LD1+ either proves it's a fake OR it's real (they had the USR Fearless in all their incarnations). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted Wednesday at 03:06 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:06 AM Obvious fake Toxichobbit, Dalmyth, divad8 and 4 others 1 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/#findComment-6133479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadlessCross Posted Wednesday at 03:21 AM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 03:21 AM 14 minutes ago, Orange Knight said: Obvious fake Well outside the LD1+, I'd love to hear your reasoning! N1SB 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/#findComment-6133482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted Wednesday at 03:36 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:36 AM Eww. Please no. divad8, Daemonic Brother, Ironwrought Huw and 7 others 1 1 8 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/#findComment-6133483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinespider Posted Wednesday at 03:54 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:54 AM It doesn't look obviously fake, but that's only because a statline is literally the easiest thing in the world to make look convincing. Anyone can put one of these together, they're idiot-proof. Daemonic Brother 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/#findComment-6133484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneOfTas Posted Wednesday at 04:05 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:05 AM If I were on my computer at home I could whip up an equally authentic looking fake of The Emperor Reborn's statline. It's by a wide margin the easiest part to fake. I would love to see the Legion of the Damned come back with plastic kits though Dalmyth, Avf, mel_danes and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/#findComment-6133485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alby the Slayer Posted Wednesday at 05:36 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 05:36 AM 1 hour ago, Scribe said: Eww. Please no. Agree. They have so much they can do, like @ThaneOfTas said even a plastic kit for the LotD would be great. But please leave the dead Primarchs alone. At least them. Crimson Longinus, LameBeard, Daemonic Brother and 1 other 1 1 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/#findComment-6133490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kraskor Posted Wednesday at 06:22 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:22 AM Any more primarch kills you'd like to rob my boy Fulgrim of GW? Marshal Reinhard, skylerboodie, Daemonic Brother and 7 others 10 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/#findComment-6133492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
firestorm40k Posted Wednesday at 06:31 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:31 AM Obviously fake, because the resolution of the names is different to that of the stats (bigger text is clearer than the smaller). This is just some trolling, just as GW bringing back Ferrus Manus before Primarchs that are known to actually be alive would be the ultimate troll Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/#findComment-6133493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted Wednesday at 06:39 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:39 AM 16 minutes ago, Brother Kraskor said: Any more primarch kills you'd like to rob my boy Fulgrim of GW? They can bring back Dorn so they can show off someone who best Fulgrim in a fair fight too I guess. Daemonic Brother and JeffJedi 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/#findComment-6133495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted Wednesday at 07:35 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 07:35 AM 4 hours ago, HeadlessCross said: Well outside the LD1+, I'd love to hear your reasoning! -Easy to fake in the 1st place. -Different resolutions in the same image. -Obviously wrong statline. -Historically models leak long before new rules do. So yes. It's an obvious fake. I'd love to hear your reasoning about why you'd think it's NOT a fake? lol MasterBlaster, Ayatollah_of_Rock_n_Rolla, andes and 1 other 2 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/#findComment-6133499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted Wednesday at 07:56 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 07:56 AM (edited) 21 minutes ago, Orange Knight said: -Easy to fake in the 1st place. -Different resolutions in the same image. -Obviously wrong statline. -Historically models leak long before new rules do. So yes. It's an obvious fake. I'd love to hear your reasoning about why you'd think it's NOT a fake? lol I agree it likely isn't real, but the only real point you have as evidence is the seemingly different resolutions and I think the text for the unit name is slightly wonky. Easy to fake doesn't help as evidence because obviously the layout is so standardised it could be real or fake and look the same. Models leak first? Again, anecdotal and not always true. We tend to get plenty of leaks for new edition rulesets and the like before we ever see a mini. Obviously wrong stat line? Do you have the genuine one? How would you decree it obviously wrong other than a subjective feeling. Edited Wednesday at 07:56 AM by Mogger351 MasterBlaster and Dark Shepherd 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/#findComment-6133502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted Wednesday at 08:10 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 08:10 AM I'm sure this will be released alongside Sanguinius Reborn, Horus Reborn, and Fulgrim's Clone. This is basically textbook 'how to fake a rumour' image editing. Pretty obvious fake BadgersinHills 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/#findComment-6133505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted Wednesday at 09:30 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:30 AM 1 hour ago, Mogger351 said: Obviously wrong stat line? Do you have the genuine one? How would you decree it obviously wrong other than a subjective feeling. 1+ Leadership There are no 1+ guaranteed rolls in 40k, and GW wouldn't create a leadership test like this. Take a look at every other model and unit in the game. MasterBlaster and DemonGSides 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/#findComment-6133512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borbarad Posted Wednesday at 11:36 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 11:36 AM Perfect halloween release Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/#findComment-6133527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukkiz Posted Wednesday at 11:41 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 11:41 AM (edited) if they make LOTD please don´t just make them primaris... I don´t want to see every new kit being primaris in 40k line if it´s space marine And those saying: " Oh but primaris marines can propably be in lotd " I don´t deny that, i just don´t want focus on being in just primarinades. Edited Wednesday at 11:50 AM by Jukkiz for clarity phandaal, ThaneOfTas, Shinespider and 9 others 4 1 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/#findComment-6133528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osteoclast Posted Wednesday at 12:05 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:05 PM 2 hours ago, Orange Knight said: 1+ Leadership There are no 1+ guaranteed rolls in 40k, and GW wouldn't create a leadership test like this. Take a look at every other model and unit in the game. Even if it were a real stat due to special rule, it would be a - symbol like movement for fortifications. DemonGSides, CastellanDeMolay and Orange Knight 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/#findComment-6133529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyari Posted Wednesday at 12:09 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:09 PM The Legion of the Damned's Legends sheet is already so cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/#findComment-6133530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitnam Posted Wednesday at 12:11 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:11 PM I know this isn't real, but I want it to be so bad. The salt from bringing back Ferris would cure mega-tons of bacon. AvePicante, Dark Shepherd, ZeroWolf and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/#findComment-6133531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted Wednesday at 12:12 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:12 PM 2 hours ago, Orange Knight said: 1+ Leadership There are no 1+ guaranteed rolls in 40k, and GW wouldn't create a leadership test like this. Take a look at every other model and unit in the game. Yeah I agree. They'd have to make it a special rule as the 1+ leadership really flies in the face of the rules of 10th edition. 6 minutes ago, Osteoclast said: Even if it were a real stat due to special rule, it would be a - symbol like movement for fortifications. Combined with this, anyone who plays the current edition should be very skeptical just based on expectations for datasheets. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/#findComment-6133532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted Wednesday at 12:38 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:38 PM 3 hours ago, Orange Knight said: 1+ Leadership There are no 1+ guaranteed rolls in 40k, and GW wouldn't create a leadership test like this. Take a look at every other model and unit in the game. A 1+ is still subject to modifiers and there are armies that can stack -2 or more for LD. There are things that require a LD to interact with even if they had a rule of "can never be battle shocked" so it wouldn't be a dash either. Again, it's very probably fake, but there's no reason they can't make this stat line if they wanted and it doesn't require bending over backwards to make it work or make sense. What I think you mean is it would be unusual and they haven't made a 1+ yet. Which means it's unlikely to be true but not a silver bullet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/#findComment-6133534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted Wednesday at 01:54 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 01:54 PM 7 hours ago, Mogger351 said: They can bring back Dorn so they can show off someone who best Fulgrim in a fair fight too I guess. You say "best" I say, "got bored" :) BadgersinHills and Daemonic Brother 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/#findComment-6133548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVoidDragon Posted Wednesday at 02:59 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 02:59 PM (edited) To me, outside of just how simple and easy something like this would be to do, the biggest thing that indicates it's a fake is the whole idea in the first place. It's linking Ferrus Manus with the Legion of the Damned, because in one of the Horus Heresy novels there's a scene of fiery ghosts of Space Marines alongside Ferrus that many have assumed to be them....but that being the Legion of the Damned is entirely a fan theory that the author has said that is not what was intended, and even said it doesn't come across like that to him. Like so many other bits of that lore, that (incorrect) claim has then been parroted without question so much that many think it's actually meant to be a thing. Edited Wednesday at 03:01 PM by TheVoidDragon MasterBlaster, ThaneOfTas, LameBeard and 3 others 3 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/#findComment-6133557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Eye Posted Wednesday at 03:10 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:10 PM 1+ Leadership could work like how a 1+ save worked in WHFB; effectively a 2+ but with a bonus against modifiers (so Ld -1 modifiers effectively do nothing). That said, assuming this is real? NO NO NO NO NO. WE ARE NOT BRINGING FERRUS MANUS BACK. NO. BAD GW. BAD. GO TO YOUR ROOM WITH NO PUDDING AND THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE DONE. ...Ahem. New LOTD would be nice though. The 2010 metals were really cool models, those but bigger and in plastic would be a winner. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/#findComment-6133558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LameBeard Posted Wednesday at 03:31 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:31 PM Jeff Goldblum will have to say “well, there it isn’t.” Evil Eye, N1SB, Dark Shepherd and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/#findComment-6133561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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