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"+1 LD is plausible because they used to be fearless"

 

Ignores....every other unit in the game that used to be fearless but has a pretty failable LD value. God shards are 6+, Celestine is 6+, primarchs are 5+, etc...

33 minutes ago, Evil Eye said:

NO NO NO NO NO. WE ARE NOT BRINGING FERRUS MANUS BACK. NO. BAD GW. BAD. GO TO YOUR ROOM WITH NO PUDDING AND THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE DONE.

 

Nope, us Iron Hands fans deserve this. Y'all made fun of us for so long. All those headless Ferrus Manus jokes have spawned something dark and sinister, and you WILL give the Gorgon the respect he deserves for once.

 

This will be the funniest thing GW has ever done

Edited by sitnam
58 minutes ago, sitnam said:

 

Nope, us Iron Hands fans deserve this. Y'all made fun of us for so long. All those headless Ferrus Manus jokes have spawned something dark and sinister, and you WILL give the Gorgon the respect he deserves for once.

 

This will be the funniest thing GW has ever done

 

There's still possible Dorn return

 

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2 hours ago, sitnam said:

 

Nope, us Iron Hands fans deserve this. Y'all made fun of us for so long. All those headless Ferrus Manus jokes have spawned something dark and sinister, and you WILL give the Gorgon the respect he deserves for once.

 

This will be the funniest thing GW has ever done

I don't think "Primarch returns MCU style and the entire chapter gets a modern makeover rendering all prior armies suddenly obsolete" is what Iron Hands fans deserve. Though then again, remembering how absurdly cheese-tacular they once were...Nah, still too harsh.

Resurrecting dead Primarch’s is one step from the “Big E dies/is reincarnated, behold the Age of Neoth” break in case of emergency scenario when the franchise is on its knees. 
 

Primarchs sell, Primarchs are popular. There are more popular Primarchs that will return that will sell more than a LOTD Ferrus Manus. 
 

Faker than fake. Plus a 1 automatically fails, so if you wanted a Ld that was auto passed, you’d just put a dash. 

I could see it as an ETB kit, a budget primarch for the kids. Just a plastic head on a 30mm base. 

Or... the spirit of Ferrus Manus has taken over a new body. Behold... Biggus Dickus. 

9 hours ago, SkimaskMohawk said:

"+1 LD is plausible because they used to be fearless"

 

Ignores....every other unit in the game that used to be fearless but has a pretty failable LD value. God shards are 6+, Celestine is 6+, primarchs are 5+, etc...

Plus the stat isn't even just fear. Leadership checks on wraith constructs aren't "oh I'm so scared" it's the wraith getting disconnected from the present.

GW likes releasing new factions (or rereleasing old ones depending on your pov) so lotd makes sense. If not now then at some point in the future. Given how aenamic these factions tend to be (World Eaters, Emperor's Children, Thousand Sons, Harlequins, GSC, Sisters of Silence) it perhaps isn't a good thing if they do. 

 

As for Ferrus I hope he does come back. Along with Horus and Sanguinius. Primarchs are to me what big butt's are to Sir Mix-A-Lot. 

I think the legion are in when territory rather than if, but they should just be a single unit still in the imperial agents codex so everyone (imperial) can use them

Oh, I absolutely believe the Legion will return. 

 

The question is what form they'll take once they do. Will they simply be a unit you can ally into an army, or will they be a full chapter you can run?

 

Their paintscheme and look could be amazing if they make some models up to the current standard. 

21 minutes ago, Orange Knight said:

Oh, I absolutely believe the Legion will return. 

 

The question is what form they'll take once they do. Will they simply be a unit you can ally into an army, or will they be a full chapter you can run?

Unit of upscaled (read: HH3.0 Scale) Mk.VII Marines with moulded Flames on the Armour, Guns and Melee weapons plus head options including just a Skull that is on fire. Ideally kit also includes a leader unit for them (probably an Lt.) in the same style.

Plonk them in the IA Codex so every Imperial Faction can take them, give them - in Ld so they can never battleshock, Deepstrike, Infiltrators and 2 unit rules: One that gives them uppy-downy reserves shenanigans like Scouts and the other represents them literally being on fire and shooting/hitting you with flaming weapons (probably "Supresses" the target like some other units do).

 

ETA: IDK if they should be Battleline or not. It'd be funny if they were. Their Bolter would probably have the "Bolt Carbine" statline or whatever is closest to a Firstborn Marine's Bolter. Maybe also with Ignores Cover because it's literally shooting Fire ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

Edited by Indy Techwisp

I think that in bringing any of the dead primarch back (Ferris Manus or Sanguinius) you create a paradox as why then can’t the Emperor just rise. After all the Primarch were (without a daemon buff) the lesser of the Emperor, it would stand to reason that if any dead Primarch rise (without the aid of the chaos gods) then so to should the Emperor rise from his throne. After all, these characters are dead and the Emperor merely “wounded”.

If the Emperor comes back there ends 40k and starts 50k as there would have been a paradigm shift in the settings universe.

Both Ferris Manus and Sanguinius would be abhorrent to the thought of joining or aligning with Chaos so I can’t see this been used as a good plot to bring them back. Both characters have been tried by chaos to join the cause and both turned it down, it is apart of their character trait that they are staunch and loyal.

I personally think that if GW bringing them back would be poor writing or the sign that the franchise is in its death throes.

 

With all the stories that could be told by GW about universe, I think that GW should add to the universe that is 40k than keep rehashing 30k and 40k characters.

 

 

3 hours ago, jokaero weaponsmith said:

I think that in bringing any of the dead primarch back (Ferris Manus or Sanguinius) you create a paradox as why then can’t the Emperor just rise. After all the Primarch were (without a daemon buff) the lesser of the Emperor, it would stand to reason that if any dead Primarch rise (without the aid of the chaos gods) then so to should the Emperor rise from his throne. After all, these characters are dead and the Emperor merely “wounded”.

If the Emperor comes back there ends 40k and starts 50k as there would have been a paradigm shift in the settings universe.

 

Grey knights would like to wave that certain scroll at you, called terminus degree

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