SkimaskMohawk Posted Wednesday at 03:40 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:40 PM "+1 LD is plausible because they used to be fearless" Ignores....every other unit in the game that used to be fearless but has a pretty failable LD value. God shards are 6+, Celestine is 6+, primarchs are 5+, etc... DemonGSides, LSM, Subtleknife and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/page/2/#findComment-6133564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitnam Posted Wednesday at 03:44 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 03:44 PM (edited) 33 minutes ago, Evil Eye said: NO NO NO NO NO. WE ARE NOT BRINGING FERRUS MANUS BACK. NO. BAD GW. BAD. GO TO YOUR ROOM WITH NO PUDDING AND THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'VE DONE. Nope, us Iron Hands fans deserve this. Y'all made fun of us for so long. All those headless Ferrus Manus jokes have spawned something dark and sinister, and you WILL give the Gorgon the respect he deserves for once. This will be the funniest thing GW has ever done Edited Wednesday at 03:44 PM by sitnam MasterBlaster, Subtleknife, HolyPestilience and 6 others 1 2 3 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/page/2/#findComment-6133565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted Wednesday at 04:35 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:35 PM More chance of them releasing Citadel Water Heraclite, 01RTB01, AvePicante and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/page/2/#findComment-6133573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah_of_Rock_n_Rolla Posted Wednesday at 04:42 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:42 PM 58 minutes ago, sitnam said: Nope, us Iron Hands fans deserve this. Y'all made fun of us for so long. All those headless Ferrus Manus jokes have spawned something dark and sinister, and you WILL give the Gorgon the respect he deserves for once. This will be the funniest thing GW has ever done There's still possible Dorn return HeadlessCross, Scribe, sitnam and 15 others 16 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/page/2/#findComment-6133574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvePicante Posted Wednesday at 04:42 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:42 PM Ironic if Ferrus Manus comes back and everyone loses their heads over it sitnam, JeffJedi, Knightsword and 8 others 11 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/page/2/#findComment-6133575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted Wednesday at 04:43 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:43 PM 58 minutes ago, sitnam said: This will be the funniest thing GW has ever done It certainly would be a joke. Matcap86 and MasterBlaster 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/page/2/#findComment-6133576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Eye Posted Wednesday at 06:45 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:45 PM 2 hours ago, sitnam said: Nope, us Iron Hands fans deserve this. Y'all made fun of us for so long. All those headless Ferrus Manus jokes have spawned something dark and sinister, and you WILL give the Gorgon the respect he deserves for once. This will be the funniest thing GW has ever done I don't think "Primarch returns MCU style and the entire chapter gets a modern makeover rendering all prior armies suddenly obsolete" is what Iron Hands fans deserve. Though then again, remembering how absurdly cheese-tacular they once were...Nah, still too harsh. MasterBlaster and Ironwrought Huw 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/page/2/#findComment-6133596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukkiz Posted Wednesday at 07:33 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 07:33 PM i forgot that fulgrim is back already Sheesh... Lotd dreadnoughts though.... wait a minute?! sitnam, ThaneOfTas, Loquille and 8 others 9 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/page/2/#findComment-6133604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodnol88 Posted Wednesday at 08:37 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 08:37 PM Resurrecting dead Primarch’s is one step from the “Big E dies/is reincarnated, behold the Age of Neoth” break in case of emergency scenario when the franchise is on its knees. Primarchs sell, Primarchs are popular. There are more popular Primarchs that will return that will sell more than a LOTD Ferrus Manus. Faker than fake. Plus a 1 automatically fails, so if you wanted a Ld that was auto passed, you’d just put a dash. phandaal and crimsondave 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/page/2/#findComment-6133612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf Posted Wednesday at 10:21 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 10:21 PM Sorry not Sorry sitnam, firestorm40k, Evil Eye and 8 others 11 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/page/2/#findComment-6133624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
soviet1337 Posted Thursday at 01:05 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:05 AM I could see it as an ETB kit, a budget primarch for the kids. Just a plastic head on a 30mm base. Or... the spirit of Ferrus Manus has taken over a new body. Behold... Biggus Dickus. Subtleknife 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/page/2/#findComment-6133630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larkhainan Posted Thursday at 01:18 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:18 AM 9 hours ago, SkimaskMohawk said: "+1 LD is plausible because they used to be fearless" Ignores....every other unit in the game that used to be fearless but has a pretty failable LD value. God shards are 6+, Celestine is 6+, primarchs are 5+, etc... Plus the stat isn't even just fear. Leadership checks on wraith constructs aren't "oh I'm so scared" it's the wraith getting disconnected from the present. DemonGSides 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/page/2/#findComment-6133631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted Thursday at 01:42 AM Share Posted Thursday at 01:42 AM I would like this to be true. Ghost Rider Primarch for the win! sitnam 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/page/2/#findComment-6133632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted Thursday at 12:16 PM Share Posted Thursday at 12:16 PM Maybe his Ld is 1+ because he literally doesn't have a head and therefore has no idea what's going on around him............ Ulfast, phandaal, sitnam and 1 other 3 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/page/2/#findComment-6133682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Praetorian of Inwit Posted Thursday at 07:01 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:01 PM GW likes releasing new factions (or rereleasing old ones depending on your pov) so lotd makes sense. If not now then at some point in the future. Given how aenamic these factions tend to be (World Eaters, Emperor's Children, Thousand Sons, Harlequins, GSC, Sisters of Silence) it perhaps isn't a good thing if they do. As for Ferrus I hope he does come back. Along with Horus and Sanguinius. Primarchs are to me what big butt's are to Sir Mix-A-Lot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/page/2/#findComment-6133739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uprising Posted Thursday at 07:11 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:11 PM 23 hours ago, Jukkiz said: I unironically would buy this. More please, great idea. HolyPestilience and Marshal Mittens 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/page/2/#findComment-6133741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassakov Posted Thursday at 07:24 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:24 PM More chance of a price cut. JeffJedi, Alby the Slayer and infyrana 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/page/2/#findComment-6133745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedFox Posted Thursday at 07:34 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:34 PM I actually like the idea... bring it on! AvePicante 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/page/2/#findComment-6133747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lost Son Posted Thursday at 07:37 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:37 PM I think the legion are in when territory rather than if, but they should just be a single unit still in the imperial agents codex so everyone (imperial) can use them AvePicante, ThaneOfTas, Heraclite and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/page/2/#findComment-6133750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted Thursday at 07:54 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:54 PM Oh, I absolutely believe the Legion will return. The question is what form they'll take once they do. Will they simply be a unit you can ally into an army, or will they be a full chapter you can run? Their paintscheme and look could be amazing if they make some models up to the current standard. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/page/2/#findComment-6133751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted Thursday at 08:15 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:15 PM (edited) 21 minutes ago, Orange Knight said: Oh, I absolutely believe the Legion will return. The question is what form they'll take once they do. Will they simply be a unit you can ally into an army, or will they be a full chapter you can run? Unit of upscaled (read: HH3.0 Scale) Mk.VII Marines with moulded Flames on the Armour, Guns and Melee weapons plus head options including just a Skull that is on fire. Ideally kit also includes a leader unit for them (probably an Lt.) in the same style. Plonk them in the IA Codex so every Imperial Faction can take them, give them - in Ld so they can never battleshock, Deepstrike, Infiltrators and 2 unit rules: One that gives them uppy-downy reserves shenanigans like Scouts and the other represents them literally being on fire and shooting/hitting you with flaming weapons (probably "Supresses" the target like some other units do). ETA: IDK if they should be Battleline or not. It'd be funny if they were. Their Bolter would probably have the "Bolt Carbine" statline or whatever is closest to a Firstborn Marine's Bolter. Maybe also with Ignores Cover because it's literally shooting Fire ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Edited Thursday at 08:17 PM by Indy Techwisp Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/page/2/#findComment-6133754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted Thursday at 09:31 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:31 PM The Legion returning? Great. Those have been historically great models. The issue is Ferrus. That's the mistake GW hopefully avoids. Toxichobbit, phandaal and LSM 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/page/2/#findComment-6133771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroWolf Posted yesterday at 07:04 AM Share Posted yesterday at 07:04 AM I think the LoD would be prime KT fodder myself, as the resulting 40k datasheet would be usable by any Imperium keyword army (I believe) LSM 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/page/2/#findComment-6133800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jokaero weaponsmith Posted yesterday at 09:39 AM Share Posted yesterday at 09:39 AM I think that in bringing any of the dead primarch back (Ferris Manus or Sanguinius) you create a paradox as why then can’t the Emperor just rise. After all the Primarch were (without a daemon buff) the lesser of the Emperor, it would stand to reason that if any dead Primarch rise (without the aid of the chaos gods) then so to should the Emperor rise from his throne. After all, these characters are dead and the Emperor merely “wounded”. If the Emperor comes back there ends 40k and starts 50k as there would have been a paradigm shift in the settings universe. Both Ferris Manus and Sanguinius would be abhorrent to the thought of joining or aligning with Chaos so I can’t see this been used as a good plot to bring them back. Both characters have been tried by chaos to join the cause and both turned it down, it is apart of their character trait that they are staunch and loyal. I personally think that if GW bringing them back would be poor writing or the sign that the franchise is in its death throes. With all the stories that could be told by GW about universe, I think that GW should add to the universe that is 40k than keep rehashing 30k and 40k characters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/page/2/#findComment-6133806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukkiz Posted yesterday at 01:30 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:30 PM 3 hours ago, jokaero weaponsmith said: I think that in bringing any of the dead primarch back (Ferris Manus or Sanguinius) you create a paradox as why then can’t the Emperor just rise. After all the Primarch were (without a daemon buff) the lesser of the Emperor, it would stand to reason that if any dead Primarch rise (without the aid of the chaos gods) then so to should the Emperor rise from his throne. After all, these characters are dead and the Emperor merely “wounded”. If the Emperor comes back there ends 40k and starts 50k as there would have been a paradigm shift in the settings universe. Grey knights would like to wave that certain scroll at you, called terminus degree Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386757-possible-ferrus-manus-and-legion-of-the-damned-release/page/2/#findComment-6133827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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