Possible Ferrus Manus and Legion Of The Damned release?

[ZeroWolf]

I suspect we're going off on a tangent here that would be better suited in one of brother N1SB's threads (especially as he pointed out that 8th edition was a turning point for GW, something that Covid then magnified)

 

On the main subject though, we are ultimately at the whims of the GW designers and whatever they decide to give us (whenever that maybe as realistically, we could be several years away before they get leaked/revealed). As I've said before, I do think it'll be via Killteam rather than 40k proper as that allows for more odd ball status, as well as a litmus test.

 

If the models aren't to our liking, those with the right skill set will probably sort it out themselves given the abundance of options to do so (different plastic armour marks or 3D prints, take your pick).

 

Frankly, I'm fascinated that a clearly fake image was able to generate this kind of heat. Just shows what staying power the LoD have in our minds (sorry Ferrus, don't think anyone even thought for a second yours was real)

[Scribe]

1 minute ago, ZeroWolf said:

If the models aren't to our liking, those with the right skill set will probably sort it out themselves given the abundance of options to do so (different plastic armour marks or 3D prints, take your pick).

 

The models, much like the Sternguard, upcoming Terminators, and many other kits, will likely be fantastic. If there is one thing GW continues to do well, its release amazing kits (that sell out, and remain out of stock for months/years.)

[Jukkiz]

funny how little things have caused a snowball

I just really wish that LOTD be either LOTD or mix armors kit. If it´s just 3-8MK armors, so be it. But if it has some primarinade in it, i don´t mind. Just don´t make it fully primaris, please.

I think mods can peek in the thread already and give it a bolter by now 

[ThaneOfTas]

11 hours ago, Orange Knight said:

the Sanguinor is now in MkX armour

Yeah and that was a controversial choice on an extremely uninspiring model, not an argument in your favour.

[Orange Knight]

21 minutes ago, ThaneOfTas said:

Yeah and that was a controversial choice on an extremely uninspiring model, not an argument in your favour.

 

The quality of the model was not the point I was making.

And from what I understand, people have an issue with the face and wings - which have little to do with his armour.

[ThaneOfTas]

10 minutes ago, Orange Knight said:

The quality of the model was not the point I was making.

The point that it seemed to me that you were making was pointing to an example of a similar recent model that had been redesigned in a manner similar to how you are advocating for the LotD to be redesigned, using the precedent as an argument in favour of making the LotD be clad in MkX. The problem is that the precedent that you are using was exactly what the people disagreeing with you are seeking to avoid a repeat of.

 

And as to which parts of the Sangionors model people had an issue with, while the face and the wings might have been the parts that gathered the most flack, I have seen significant criticism of basically every aspect of it, from the MkX features, to the proportions, pose and even how the sword looks, that model is just not popular, it's only the existence of the Sang Guard and the non-existance of the Death Company that keep it from copping more flak.

 

Now for the record, having read through the rest of the thread. I don't think that you're a shill. I disagree with roughly 90% of your hobby takes, especially where aesthetics are concerned, but that doesn't make you a shill, nor should that make you unwelcome in hobby spaces. My problems with the hobby seem to be primarily coming from GWs IP protection efforts, and occasional apparent laziness in design, there's nothing about efforts to market to a wider audience that inherently has to be bad, that's just a question of execution.

[Antarius]

I guess there's not that much to talk about regarding this obviously fake rumour, but still, maybe people could lay off ripping out each others' throats? Also, once you start talking about people being shills because they disagree with you or how an author has left us to die, I really think you need to step back and stop being overly dramatic.

GW has always been business first, always. their IP has always been highly malleable and somewhat all over the place. New releases have always been a bit hit-and-miss and it's always been about introducing new stuff that they could sell. Black Library pumped out plenty of trash 10-15 years ago, too, there was just (in my opinion) a few more novels that were actually good, sometimes even great, but it was hardly a golden age, nor was there one, unified vision for the lore (let alone one that aligned with my tastes). The answer, now as then, is to take the stuff you like and leave the stuff you don't like.

 

Don't like Primaris? The good news is that there's a nigh-infinite amount of secondhand firstborn stuff to buy and it's cheap too. Don't like the current lore? Who in their right mind* does? The thing is, you can just ignore that and keep going with the 4th ed. timeline if you prefer that. There's plenty of like-minded people out there to get your hobby on with, instead of getting into fights with strangers on the internet - besides, that just saps your energy and your enjoyment of the hobby.
 

GW is gonna GW. Whether you like what they do or not. That's just a simle fact and there's nothing any of us can do to change it. Sure, they might listen to feedback once in a while, either of the traditional kind or the "people aren't buying this new mini" kind, but overall, trying to change GW is tilting at windmills. So it's probably a better bet to concentrate on the parts of your hobby that makes you happy and fulfilled instead. You don't even need GW for that, at the end of the day.

*This is a joke; I don't actually think agreeing with my subjective hobby tastes are a good indicator of mental health.

Edited 22 hours ago by Antarius

[Scribe]

53 minutes ago, Antarius said:

how an author has left us to die, I really think you need to step back and stop being overly dramatic.

 

I don't even know how long it's been since Black Legion 2.

 

I am getting closer to death every single day!

[Antarius]

Yeah, it’s not coming out ever, I’d have to say. Would be a pleasant surprise, though.

[Wispy]

1 hour ago, Antarius said:

I guess there's not that much to talk about regarding this obviously fake rumour, but still, maybe people could lay off ripping out each others' throats? 

I would like to point out there's only one frater here being vicious and ripping out throats while everyone else tap dances around their pedantry. This isn't the first time I've seen this particular poster do this to a thread, this frater collects 'Respectfully Disagree' reactions by the dozen.

[Marshal Reinhard]

Wasn't this rumor judged to be an obvious fake, like 2 posts in? How are we on page 6? 

 

As much as I think new LotD kit would be cool, they've not really had one since... 2nd edition? Mostly metal and some plastic? There are other things I'd rather see and think are in greater need of a release, like updated Grey knights.

[redmapa]

4 minutes ago, Marshal Reinhard said:

Wasn't this rumor judged to be an obvious fake, like 2 posts in? How are we on page 6? 

 

As much as I think new LotD kit would be cool, they've not really had one since... 2nd edition? Mostly metal and some plastic? There are other things I'd rather see and think are in greater need of a release, like updated Grey knights.

 

Well the Grey Knight graveyard just had all their dead just walk away sooooo... LEGION OF THE DAMNED CONFIRMED TO BE IN THE 11TH ED GREY KNIGHT CODEX WITH NEW UNDEAD TERMINATORS!

 

 

[Evil Eye]

2 hours ago, redmapa said:

 

Well the Grey Knight graveyard just had all their dead just walk away sooooo... LEGION OF THE DAMNED CONFIRMED TO BE IN THE 11TH ED GREY KNIGHT CODEX WITH NEW UNDEAD TERMINATORS!

 

 

Please don't give them ideas...

 

More seriously, I think refreshed LOTD should be in a mix of different marks; whether they're Warp-sickened Marines kept alive by sheer faith and bloody-mindedness or the ghosts of the Imperium's heroes, I think it would make sense for them to not be in even remotely uniform warplate. In the former's case they'd likely be forced to rely on whatever they can find and maintain (so they might well have some Mk. X armour, but only enough to patch up existing suits with the occasional sabaton, backpack or whatever) and in the latter case, there are a LOT of dead Marines. No way would they all be wearing the exact same pattern of armour. Also, non-uniform power armour looks cool, which is what matters.

 

Also apologies for earlier loss of composure, my medication has been delayed due to the local Hospitaler being completely incompetent and I've been off it for a week whilst I wait for a new prescription delivery, so my apologies for my current "literally incapacitated by irrational anger at everything" condition affecting my discourse here.

[The Praetorian of Inwit]

Lotd could be an interesting way to an entire new subfaction of space marines as undead space marines. Then we could have undead Lieutenants. 

 

I might be biased though as I am a big fan of Ossiarch Bonereapers over in AoS. 

[Indy Techwisp]

On 9/27/2025 at 11:47 PM, Indy Techwisp said:

I'm starting to get the impression some people are pushing back against the "Ghost Marines" angle because they want them to still be a Firstborn Marine Chapter and thus not be Primaris Marines.

 

Not that it would actually matter to GW anyway, since the Sanguinor decided to manifest in Mk X Armour because the vast majority of his associated Chapter now wear that, so they could just say the Fire Hawks also got their mits on the Armour somehow.

 

Y'know this comment was supposed to be a joke, right?
I hate how it got proved true immediately afterwards.

[phandaal]

54 minutes ago, Evil Eye said:

No way would they all be wearing the exact same pattern of armour. Also, non-uniform power armour looks cool, which is what matters.

 

Agree with this. GW already demonstrated how good their mixed armor units will look via Sternguard and the new Space Wolves units.

 

12 minutes ago, Indy Techwisp said:

Y'know this comment was supposed to be a joke, right?
I hate how it got proved true immediately afterwards.

 

Quoting yourself a day after everyone else already moved on? That is certainly a move.

 

Edited 14 hours ago by phandaal

[Brother Tyler]

Well, it looks like we're done talking about the actual topic of this discussion.