Being a thread on The Phoenix Guard

[LSM]

Across the 40k Emperor's Children fandom, I regularly see calls for a "Phoenix Guard Terminators" unit to be added to the 40k range. Obviously, this is due to the presence of Phoenix Terminators in 30k, so I thought it might be interesting to go over their implementation and evolution as a means of starting a discussion on where they could be taken in the future.

 

(As in my belaboured rundowns of Julius Kaesoron and Lord Commander EIdolon, any corrections and additions are most welcome.)

 

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In Fulgrim (2007) the Phoenix Guard are routinely mentioned as being around Fulgrim, and are noted to be armed with "long halberds" with "golden blades". To be honest, when I first read Fulgrim it was after the release of the Phoenix Terminators models, so I just mentally pictured all Phoenix Guard like them. Rereading the book, I noticed that's not actually the case. "...purple and gold plate armour, carrying a great, golden-bladed halberd. His armour was ornate, much more so than was common for an Astartes. The warrior’s helm was winged and the frontal visor had been fashioned to resemble the countenance of a great bird of prey."

 

At Isstvan V, the way they're said to brace for a charge from the Iron Hands Terminators makes it sound like they're not in TDA themselves. ("The Phoenix Guard braced themselves to meet the charge, fully aware of the power of such mighty suits of armour.")

 

An illustration apparently found in the 'Enhanced Edition' version of the book depicts them in Power Armour (vaguely MkVII-ish, with a helmet like the modern Ultramarines' Victrix Guard):

 

There is early John Blanche art (c2003) which often gets officially labelled as being Phoenix Guard (including in Vision of Heresy Vol One, pages 29 and 32), but Blanche himself called them "Varangii Guard". Later, "Varangii" would be stated to be an alternative name for the Space Wolves' Varagyr Wolf Guard, but I find that the images are most-reminiscent of the Ultramarines' Invictarus Suzerains (sans shields). This look is also copied for Franz Vohwinkel's 'Sentinels of Calth' art piece (found in Visions of Heresy Vol Two, pg 286), so these "Phoenix Guard" seem to have been better realised by the Ultramarines. Still - Fulgrim's description of the Phoenix Guard is very similar, and I assume it was drawing on these Blanche images as inspiration.

 

 

In The Reflection, Crack'd (2012), Fulgrim is described in one scene as "surrounded by hulking Terminators of the Phoenix Guard", so they definitely are in TDA here. They are also described as "...clad in scored armour of blues, pinks and purples. They wore tattered cloaks of gold weave that hung in asymmetrical waterfalls from the spikes worked into their shoulder guards, and crimson raptors surged from ruby flames on their breastplates. All six carried golden-bladed halberds..." 

 

In Angel Exterminatus (2012), the Phoenix Guard is again described in Terminator Armour (with spiked pauldrons). Fulgrim descends on a "ramp of shields" held by "his warriors", but it's ambiguous whether or not this is the Phoenix Guard with the shields, or others. Fulgrim states to Perturabo that his Phoenix Guard love him (unlike the latter's robotic guardians). "Without me they would have no purpose, and a warrior without purpose is not worthy of breath." Once again, their weapons are referred to as "powered halberds".

 

The Horus Heresy: Book One - Betrayal (2012) mentions the Phoenix Guard, to say that it had a set number of 200 members (to commemorated the 200 Space Marines who had been presented to Fulgrim on Chemos). There is also an image of Prefector Flavius Alkenax (taken at Ullanor), which states that his Phoenician Pattern helmet's (white, sagittal) crest is a sign that he's a member of the Phoenix Guard. (His MkIV armour has none of the other previously mentioned flourishes from Fulgrim.)

 

200 seems kind of small, numbers wise, compared to their impact on the table top. But the book also mentions that when twenty whole Millennials were drawn together to destroy the Golden Kings of the Moraeb Drifts, "over one hundred" Palatine Blades were able to take to the field - suggesting that individual Millennials (formations of over three thousand Marines) would only each have been able to contribute half-a-dozen Palatine Blades. Yet, Palatine Blades (and Phoenix Terminators) are relatively routinely seen in lists - a common discrepancy across the game between how rare the coolest stuff is in lore versus how much it sees play.

 

The Horus Heresy: Book Two - Massacre (2013) is when things really start to solidify. Phoenix Terminators get a ruleset, and there is art of what one looks like (even if the miniatures - if I'm not mistaken - take two more years to arrive). The art/miniatures don't really match the previous descriptions - no winged/beaked helmets, no crimsons raptors surging from ruby flames on their breastplates, no golden blades, and no cloaks draped from spiked pauldrons. (Though arguably these models are designed to represent them from the Great Crusade era through to Isstvan V, and so would not incorporate the aesthetics of the turn that the Legion takes afterwards.)

 

The fluff sidebar for these Phoenix Terminators does mention that the Phoenix Guard excelled in many spheres of battle - from swift assault to tactical roles - but that it was the Terminators that were most famous. (The rules at this point are just for TDA, however.) They also are now said to be armed with Phoenix Power Spears, though in the descriptions of these spears it says that they're based on the "halberds" used by the Adeptus Custodes, so we're playing fast-and-loose with the word "spear".

 

Rules wise, they originally had a basic Legion Terminator Squad profile (though the Phoenix Champion had a WS of 5; and later all of the Phoenix Guard would see their base WS bumped to 5, matching the WS 5 of the Palatine Blades). Their main difference was: the Phoenix Power Spear (+1 S, AP2 on the Charge), Sudden Strike (+1 Initiative on the Charge), Living Icons (they win combats that otherwise would be a draw), and the ability to upgrade to have Sonic Shriekers.

 

When the models come out (I believe in 2015), we actually saw the Phoenix Power Spear's "sword on a stick" design for the first time (not being included in Betrayal's art), and indeed, they look much more like glaives or fauchards than spears. (These 'Spears were also available, ruleswise, to any Character model who had access to a Power Fist.)

 

In 2016 (as far as I can tell), the resin Phoenix Power Spears kit came out. Four for Power Armour, one for TDA. The updated rules in The Horus Heresy: Legiones Astartes - Age of Darkness Legions (2016) expanded Palatine Blades to be able to take Phoenix Power Spears (effectively making the original Power Armoured Phoenix Guard playable). 

 

2016 also features "squads" of Phoenix Terminators amongst the forces of Lord Commander Archorian in The Soul, Severed. (As opposed to Lord Commander Eidolon who is, of course, surrounded by his bodyguard of Kakophoni.) It's not explicit, but I took there to be a bit of a juxtaposition between Archorian and Eidolon as "the old Emperor's Children" vs "the new". (I might be reading too much into that - Archorian's helmet is described as having expanded eye-lenses and distended vox-grill, suggesting that he's down with the Sonic Cult.) His main beef seems to be a feeling that Eidolon is "usurping" the Legion. In the end, Archorian and his Phoenix Terminators get screamed into "flying, bloody fragments" by the Lord Commander Primus' men.

 

I don't recall the Phoenix Guard being mentioned in Slaves to Darkness, Eidolon: The Auric Hammer, or Saturnine (which effectively close out the Horus Heresy series, as far as the Emperor's Children are concerned).

 

In 2022's Liber Hereticus, we get some new Phoenix Terminator rules for a new edition of the Horus Heresy. They are comparable to a Tartaros Command Squad, with the big difference being the new addition of the 'Skill Unmatched' ability (stances to modify their Attacks/WS); which they have instead of their previous Sudden Strike rule. 'Skill Unmatched' is also given to Palatine Blades, and they can still take Phoenix Power Spears to make them (essentially) Phoenix Guard in Power Armour. The book also introduces Phoenix Power Rapiers, and the Consul upgrade "Phoenix Warden" (giving them Skill Unmatched, Living Icon, and a Phoenix Power Spear/Rapier). Said 'Spears also get a bit of a bump (now +2 S, plus some other keywords).

 

The lore for the Phoenix Wardens is that they command the Phoenix Guard, but also that they were "the personal guards of the Primarch himself". (Which conceptually makes me think that the whole "there are only 200 Phoenix Guard in the galaxy" might have been quietly retconned, in order to allow them to be a more common element in the average Legion force.)

 

Surgical Augments (which Characters, Phoenix Terminators, and Palatine Blades can take) also get expanded to incorporate Sonic Lances and Sub-Sonic Pulsers (in addition to Sonic Shriekers). The updated 'IIIrd Company Elite' Rite of War (the fluff of which says that it was "emblematic of the change that had overcome the Emperor’s Children") mandates that Characters have a Surgical Augment. Going back to Fulgrim, we know that most of the Emperor's Children hierarchy that were with Fulgrim and Eidolon underwent Surgical Augmentation (and those without vision, like Saul Tarvitz, were purged at Isstvan III), so my expectation would be that afterwards most of the remaining Phoenix Guard would have been inducted into these early stages of the Sonic Cult.

 

2022 also drops a pair of Praetors; the Power Armoured one has a 'Spear, the Terminator a Phoenix Rapier (which looks like a 'Spear with its shaft cut off). The Terminator also has a bit of a "birdy" helmet, the first time since Fulgrim that that's come up. He has the same chest eagle as Phoenix Terminators (with the giant gem in the middle), and there's a unique design along his top which might be to represent Sonic Shriekers? (The Power Armoured Praetor is much more overt in his 'Augmentation).

 

 

2023's Exemplary Battles of the Age of Darkness: Volume One then presents rules for Emperor's Children forces late in the Heresy. The rule 'The Phoenician's Hubris' replaces the Phoenix Terminator's 'Living Icons' and 'Phoenix Retinue' abilities with 'Fallen From Grace'. Rules wise this is a bit of a wash, but the fluff notes that after Fulgrim's apotheosis the Phoenix Guard found their role redundant. Many are said to have relinquished their ceremonial duties, while others tried to prove their worth anew and regain their past esteem. The updated fluff for Phoenix Pattern Power Weapons notes that by the later years of the Heresy characters were as likely to have taken them as trophies as they were to have actually been given them. Even amongst the latter, it says they were sometimes "retained by those warriors who had left the Phoenix Guard".

 

(The Phoenix Warden upgrade could also not be taken in these forces.)

 

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In ~M35 we have the Black Library portrayal of Prefect Flavius Alkenax in Fabius Bile: Clonelord (2016). While obviously a name taken from Betrayal, his background mentions him being made a member of the Phoenix Guard post-Isstvan III (so: in conflict with being a Phoenix Guard at Ullanor). He wears purple MkIV armour (heavily embellished, cluttered with sculpted faces and crystalline growths, and fluttering with old broken/unfulfilled Oaths of the Moment), and still has his "sharp, baroque curve" Phoenician Pattern helmet with white crest. His face has been ritually scarred, his teeth sharpened into fangs with etched characters on them, and his hair braided in a fashion reminiscent of serpents. He wields a sword, which doesn't get any special mention (no "Phoenix Rapier", etc, though I suppose it pre-dates them). Fabius Bile muses that Eidolon sent him as he's so arrogant that he can be trusted to follow orders (which he actually doesn't, attacking Bile's forces before the fruition of their plans when Eidolon had ordered him to wait until after).

 

In M42, the Lord Exultant model comes with a Phoenix Power Spear as an option for their armament. (And in the current ruleset, it is generally considered to be their best weapon.) Visually, it doesn't really resemble the 30k 'Spears, being even more of a "power sword on a stick" (with merely half the weapon's total length being the blade). Their Master-Crafted Power Sword looks similar, but is not called a Phoenix Power Rapier.

 

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So: where does this leave the Phoenix Guard?

 

Well, in a 40k sense we don't really need a Power Armoured version as we already have the Flawless Blades as a "devolved continuance" of the Palatine Blades. I suppose there could be a spear-armed version, but the Flawless Blades already amalgamate dual swords and huge two-handers into a common "Blissblades" profile - if one wants to use Phoenix Power Spears as a proxy there's no issue.

 

But I like the lore additions from Exemplary Battles of the Age of Darkness: Volume One - that they fell out of favour without a Phoenician in need of a guard, pursued by warlords who wanted the prestige of having taken their stuff, or becoming Warlords themselves. In that sense, the Lords Exultant having the Phoenix Power Spear available is already a nice reference.

 

If the "only 200 pre-Heresy" and "Fulgrim stopped caring about them" lore were to hold, then there also wouldn't be that many around in M42. The argument against that, of course, is that there also shouldn't be that many of them around in M31. So it'd be pretty easy to say that in a fit of pique Fulgrim bestowed the honour on a greater number, or what you will. Maybe without Fulgrim's authority a core cadre took it upon themselves to start inducting new members, growing larger for the day when Fulgrim would realise that he desired them again. 

 

So you could do a squad of Terminators with 'Spears and some sort of Skill Unmatched. (Though the Flawless Blades don't have it.) Personally, as a fan of the Sonic Cult (and as Palatine Blades and Phoenix Terminators are the 30k units with the most access to Surgical Augmentation besides the Kakophoni themselves) I'm enamoured of the idea that during the Heresy most of the Phoenix Guard would have undergone pretty extreme modifications.

 

I think back particularly to Marius Vairosean's story in Fulgrim. He failed in his objectives in the battle against the Laer, and became so obsessed with never being "imperfect" again that he subjected himself to the most extreme of the Legion Apothecaries and Techmarines' new arts. The Phoenix Guard are presented with a bit of a (possibly) similar story - cast aside by their Primarch as unnecessary; for those who obsessively continued in their redundant role, to what lengths would they go to regain their prestige?

 

So... effectively... I wouldn't make a direct 40k version of the Phoenix Terminators. (I think that would be boring.) I'd make more classic Noise Marine Terminators - with Slaaneshi mutations, maybe Doom Sirens, combat drug dispensers, possibly Warp Amps on their backs. I like the idea of a smaller 3/6 man unit, to exist in the range alongside the borrowed CSM Terminators. I'd give them Lightning Claws (admittedly, the memory of the '99 Noise Marine Terminators with their +1 Attack Mark of Slaanesh still resonates with me), but I'm not opposed to 'Spears. Either just one as a Champion option, or as an alternative build for the entire squad.

 

Name-wise, of course they wouldn't use "Noise Marine Terminators" so something playing into a history with the Phoenix Guard would be fitting. (I jokingly use the term "Phonics Terminators", though that would work best if you armed them with giant hooks.) You could dig into it in other ways as well - maybe they ritually immolate themselves and then are "reborn" under the Fleshcrafters' care. (Though I don't know how that'd play into a sculpt - unless you made their unhelmeted heads all burnt and gross.) It'd be an excuse to have their Legion symbol be presented as fiery and chaotic, at least. (Unlike the overly pristine ones throughout the rest of the range. Yes, this is a hill I will die on.)

 

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(I also often see people mention that they'd like to see a 40k Eidolon in Terminator Armour leading 40k Phoenix Terminators, and I'm not entirely sure where this comes from. Eidolon doesn't really have a connection, as far as I can tell, to either the Phoenix Guard or Terminator Armour.)

[Dr_Ruminahui]

Always great to have a LSM fluff deep dive! 

 

I agree, very few of the spears have been actual "spears" but rather some sort of 2 handed, blade tipped, pole weapon.  In 40K parlance that seems to be a "spear", while "halberd" seems to be a spear with a gun attached - that said, that's just my own observation (not any technical observation) and I'm not sure how grey knights refer to their two handed spears that they awkwardly use in 1 hand.  I also like that they appear to have carried them forward in the LE's spear - it would make sense that the old Phoenix Guard would become lords or EC that wanted to be lords would appropriate the spears as "high status" weapons.

 

I do agree that we don't necessarily need them back in 40K (the nod with the LE is enough, IMHO), but if we did the terminator version would be enough.  Personally, I would love a 2-unit kit, one kitted out for melee and the other as essentially heavy noise marines with drug dispensers on the tops for the former and speakers on the latter.

[LSM]

At one point I stumbled upon some fan art of a Noise Marine Terminator (from 2009, after ForgeWorld had done their Khorne Berzerker and Plague Marine Terminator conversion kits), and that kind of became an ideal look for me. I especially love the incorporation of the ForgeWorld-style Warp Amps on their back (like the Sonic Dreadnought had).

 

 

The Lightning Claws also remind me of the John Travers Slaaneshi Terminator Lord (Golden Daemon Australia 1999 Silver). 

 

 

[RolandTHTG]

Part of the desire for Phoenix Guard is that TS have the Scarab Occult termis and DE have Deathshroud AND Blighlords termis. 

Unfortunately for both WE and EC they've obviously decided that our elite special unit is pseudo posessed in power armor with big blades and HGH injections. 

 

Great writeup on the history.