Orange Knight Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago (edited) 40k is starting to pick up steam in my local area again. The game is always going through highs and lows, but people are looking for games again and I'm happy to oblige. I have my Imperial Fists and I'm very confident with them, but Marines already make up the bulk of player armies. I have a large collection of AdMech units, and I've recently taken note of the additional detachment that GW added, and the various changes to units to make them better. My list was never particularly competitive, but I'm feeling motivated again to bring the army into the current edition. I've also seen the rules for the "Haloscreed Battlecade" and they are very beneficial for the models I actually own. I remember back in 8th and 9th the AdMech went through a lot of rule revisions. I recall that at one point the Skitarii vanguard/rangers could be run in units of 20. This annoyed me back in the day but I went about ripping arms and heads off, and I made 3 units of 20 Vanguard, each with 4 Plasmas (This cost me a lot back in the day) Fast forward to today and the rules are completely different. Wargear upgrades are also free which is a big pain in the butt for me. So now I'm converting all my rangers into 10 man units again, and I need to move the various weapons around. I'm back to ripping bits out. I've also splurged a great deal of money into replacing bits that I've thrown away over the years. I've ordered a bunch of pistols, swords and Ark rifles. Am I correct to assume, looking at the new datasheet, that for Vanguard the best wargear would be: -Alpha with Mechanicus Pistol and Alpha Close Combat wearpon (The Ark Pistol no longer has rules and both pistols are rolled into 1 profile?) -1 Vanguard with Plasma Culverin -1 Vanguard with Ark Rifle -1 Vanguard with Omnispex Are people also running the Transuranic Arquebus or should I not bother with it? I'm hoping it isn't an obvious "must take" because I don't particularly want to buy a bunch of them online lol. I'm looking to cannibalise my 60 Vanguard infantry models into 4 current units of Vanguard and 1 unit of Rangers. How are people equipping the Rangers? Moving on from the general infantry, I also own 6 Kastelan Robots. I have 2 with Dual Fists and Heacy Phosphor Blasters, and 4 with Twin Castellan Phosphor Blasters and Heavy Phosphor Blasters. I used to be able to run a unit of 6, now they are limited to 4... I've also noticed that I can now have 1 Fist and 1 Phosphor Blaster - is this the optimum loadout or am I good to proceed with Twin Linked weapons on all models? I intent to run 1 unit of 4 with - 2 with Fists and 2 with twin Guns, and another unit with all guns to hang back. I would rather not have to rip the arms off these models lol. My collection consists of (or is about to consist of): HQ: -Belasarius Cawl -Tech Priest Dominus -Tech Priest Manipulus -2 Cybernetica Datasmiths -Tech Priest Enginseer -Technoarcheologist Troops: -4 Units of Vanguard -1 Unit of Rangers Other: -1 Onegar Dunecrawler with Neutron Laser and 2 Stubbers -2 Skorpius Disintegrators with Ferrumite Cannons -6 Kataphron Destroyers with Plasma Culverins -6 Kastelan Robots -10 Sicaran Infiltrators -10 Corpuscarii Electro Priests Is there any unit that I should be adding to my force that has proven itself for people? I don't want to add any of the flyers but other things are appealing to me... And finally, I'm finishing up the paintjobs on a few models: Here is a 99% finished Skorpius: Edited 6 hours ago by Orange Knight Missed some things Dr. Clock, Bouargh, Brother Captain Vakarian and 1 other 2 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386806-dusting-the-admech-off-some-advice-will-be-much-appreciated/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouargh Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Hi, Some general comments: - Tooling up Vanguards - I do use the Transuranic arquebus. It gives some versatility. - Omnispex is not for me a compulsory choice. I go 50/50 with datatether. - I equip rangers just as Vanguards; main difference is associated to the way you deploy them. period. I play 50/50 Vanguard/Rangers - Kastellan can be indeed equipped with one fist and a gun but I personnaly do not like the combo. I go either full HtH or full shooty. I do like the Kastellan as schock troop. - Synergy of Crawlers and troops is a very interresting stuff to keep in mind. Your current unit selection looks OK even if I feel like a transport skorpius dunerider would add a nice option for your electropriests. Which game size do you have defined in your league? Dr. Clock and Orange Knight 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386806-dusting-the-admech-off-some-advice-will-be-much-appreciated/#findComment-6134502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Clock Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 4 hours ago, Orange Knight said: Are people also running the Transuranic Arquebus or should I not bother with it? You probably won't miss it, but equally it's not a bad piece of kit. The Arc and Plasma will be doing most of the lifting here. I converted a few since my Skitarii are... non-standard. Honestly it's low priority. 4 hours ago, Orange Knight said: I've also noticed that I can now have 1 Fist and 1 Phosphor Blaster - is this the optimum loadout or am I good to proceed with Twin Linked weapons on all models? I would basically never take a robot without a fist. Their best role is frontline tap and grind, and without actual punches you stop grinding and just stall in melee. I do combustors and blasters on a unit of 4 and then usually one, but sometimes 2 TL fist in there for colour. 4 combustors means they actually aren't a bad overwatch threat either. 4 hours ago, Orange Knight said: Is there any unit that I should be adding to my force that has proven itself for people? I think you've got the meat of it there! I don't have Skorpius, Destroyers or Priests either though, so our lists are pretty dang different... Still, nothing screams out to me as massively missing other than potentially some Ironstriders? I use a couple las chickens for corner camping and even 1 taser is a great little tech piece. I also love having just a couple throwaway reserve/skirmish pieces, and I went with 2x3 sulphurhounds because they're just too cool... They rarely kill anything but they always come in handy for points. I know Raiders and Pteraxii are preferred in the MSU jank role, but what's not to love about flamedoggs? My current 2k Haloscreed: Technoarchaeologist Manipulus (Sanctified Ordnance) Datasmith (Transocular Dyad Wafers) 2x10 Rangers 3x10 Vanguard 2x1 Ballistarii 1x4 Kastelan 1x6 Arc Breachers Onager 2x3 Sulphurhounds 1x5 Infiltrators 1x10 Ruststalkers 1x Taser Dragoon It's been a good minute since I ran them tho... Feels like it's probably time (though I'll probably pick up Cawl first!) Cheers, The Good Doctor. Orange Knight 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386806-dusting-the-admech-off-some-advice-will-be-much-appreciated/#findComment-6134506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magos Takatus Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago I'd love to give advice but I just played my first game in 10th and lost. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386806-dusting-the-admech-off-some-advice-will-be-much-appreciated/#findComment-6134519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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