Razorblade Posted Saturday at 12:50 PM Share Posted Saturday at 12:50 PM 2 hours ago, Astartes Consul said: A list of 20 consuls would be somewhere in the region of 2,000 - 2,500 points, right? Given the amount of firepower and Line you get in an average 2,500 point list, and that the Consuls cannot take any transports, I think most players will be able to shoot and out manoeuvre the majority of an Alone and Forgotten list. Arguably its most spicy as an allied detachment. Then your opponent has to chose between trying to shoot/avoid the Consuls, or engaging the main force. Normal game size, right. Those centurions would all have jump packs, and there's twenty of them that can all move independently, so no, you aren't outmaneuvering them. Sure, you've got more guns but unless you're playing on a completely empty table, they can easily advance a handful of them behind LoS-Blockers every turn. (which really is all they need to do) Even when you're getting LoS each unit can only kill one of them at a time. You might have enough guns but they're probably not spread out enough. Line is nice and all but that's 2 extra points per objective, whereas these guys score 2-7 every time they make base contact with one of your units. With 20 of these guys available it's also really easy to screen out or just murder (and score while doing so) any tacticals trying to claim objectives outside of your deployment zone. And no, they're not great as an allied detachment. Their power comes from scoring and they can't do that reliably without the second oath (which you do not get in an allied detachment) DarkChaplain 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386877-blackshields-rules-for-the-horus-heresy/page/2/#findComment-6136224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicHat Posted Saturday at 01:58 PM Share Posted Saturday at 01:58 PM The Flesh is Weak turning everyone into automata means that you can cast cybertheurgy on them. BS6 veterans/seekers, S5/T7 saturnine. Or boosting I. Plus you can restore wounds with tech-priests. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386877-blackshields-rules-for-the-horus-heresy/page/2/#findComment-6136230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mittens Posted Saturday at 03:19 PM Share Posted Saturday at 03:19 PM I like this, not overly long but it has a ton of flavor and conversion potential Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386877-blackshields-rules-for-the-horus-heresy/page/2/#findComment-6136239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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