jaxom Posted yesterday at 10:46 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 10:46 AM 6 hours ago, Tacitus said: Battle Forces are all theme and don't have to balance like Combat Patrols. Battle Forces/Boxes will be all flavor with no attention paid to playability. Sometimes they're called Deathwing Assault, and sometimes they're called Ravenwing Army Box Force but Its mostly larger points wise than a Combat Patrol and fully thematic. 25 Terminators. 20 Jump Troops and 20 Phobos. 20 yellow HINTS and 10 Bolternators. Seems like launch boxes are Battle Forces using that definition. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386929-11th-edition-launch-box-astartes-models-possibilities/page/2/#findComment-6138251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted yesterday at 12:11 PM Share Posted yesterday at 12:11 PM (edited) Launch boxes as in something like Leviathan are just that; Boxes of pretty much entirely new sprues that are then bundled with the core rules and maybe some other doo-dads like dice and rulers. Battleforce specifically is a collection of sprues without any extra rules information that are sold together in a set, previously almost exclusively at Christmas-time but in 10th that was expanded and now they are released kinda whenever, usually alongside a codex but not bundled with a codex and have whatever the new unit for the faction is for this edition; Death Guard got this with the new Lord of Poxes and a bunch of other kits. As mentioned they're usually themed around something and given a name; Cadian Defense Force or something like that when it was Two Dorns and a 20man+Command Squad. Tacticus thinks that these are cobbled together out of 'unsold kits' in a factory; they aren't, that makes 0 logistical sense and no company is going to pay people to break down boxes to then put back into their distribution system for bundling into another box. They are most likely print to whatever specifications that GW wants for numbers and then distributed. Army Boxes are usually built around new releases; something like the DKoK box that came out for Guard this edition, or the Kroot box that came out or the Blood Angel or Space Wolves boxes that came out that bundle a couple of new units with a Premium Codex and some Premium data cards. Combat Patrols are Combat Patrols. Edited yesterday at 12:12 PM by DemonGSides Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386929-11th-edition-launch-box-astartes-models-possibilities/page/2/#findComment-6138270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted yesterday at 05:13 PM Author Share Posted yesterday at 05:13 PM The next launch box will consist of new kits and be organized around a theme. Presumably the Marine half will also contain the models to make a new Combat Patrol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386929-11th-edition-launch-box-astartes-models-possibilities/page/2/#findComment-6138351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacitus Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 17 hours ago, jaxom said: Seems like launch boxes are Battle Forces using that definition. There was no theme to Leviathan. Some Terminators, some Infernusators, Sternguard, two characters, only one of which can join the terminators, a solitary Gravis character that can't join anything on the list, a power armored character that can never join anything and a gunboat Dread. There's zero theme there beyond some weird stuff tossed on top of the new recipe for a combat patrol. The closest you come are the Terminators + Sternguard starting a First Company theme that then... dies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386929-11th-edition-launch-box-astartes-models-possibilities/page/2/#findComment-6138418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 5 hours ago, Tacitus said: There was no theme to Leviathan. There was a loose theme of Veterans in the Terminators, Sternguard and Dreadnought. The Lt is also depicted as a grizzled veteran. DemonGSides 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/386929-11th-edition-launch-box-astartes-models-possibilities/page/2/#findComment-6138461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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