Berserker Surgeon? Real or Fake.

[Uprising]

Real or fake you decide.  Image been floating around, thoughts?  

[Rain]

Looks about as real as an 8 dollar bill. 

[TheMawr]

This has been discussed a lot in the 500 worlds topic :)

 

edit : to quote @Ming the Merciless

"So bad it could be real, dear lord please no."

Edited yesterday at 04:50 PM by TheMawr

[Scribe]

Looks bad. Considering how terrible the World Eaters release has been, probably real.

[Rain]

Just now, Scribe said:

Looks bad. Considering how terrible the World Eaters release has been, probably real.

 

To be fair, the new Berzerker models are actually really great. I'm not so hot on the Eightbound, and lack of Red Butchers or other unique Terminators sucks, but the Berzerkers and Juggerlord are both great models. This looks like an AI assisted mishmash of existing parts. The head looks taken directly from the Berzerkers kit, and the back servo arms from the rumor engine grafted onto a standard Berzerker bakcpack look really poorly integrated, and of a potentially different resolution from the rest of the image. Actually, the whole thing has that Bigfoot photo feel of being inexplicably blurry and unclear in an age of high rez cameras on even the lowest tier smartphones. How hard is it to take a photo of a box laying on a flat surface 18 inches away?

[Vassakov]

There's something about it that just doesn't quite look right. The proportions are all over the place, the way the shoulderpads and the arms go together just seems very off, the helmet "ears" are way too short (this is something that has been pretty consistent in the Khorne/WE design for decades), the servo-arms on the back are completely out of proportion with the rest of the model and I can't really tell what the left arm is supposed to be but it doesn't seem to fit any of the existing design language for Apothecaries - even the Plague Surgeon has the Reductor style drill and he's mostly cancer and pus. 

 

Look, whatever you might think of GW's current final designs the underpinning language and philosophy is remarkable for its consistency.  This, fundamentally, is not.

 

It's not conclusive - Coteaz is a massive departure from the Inquisition design language and therefore was panned, but I also just don't think this looks "right" at all.

10 minutes ago, Scribe said:

Looks bad. Considering how terrible the World Eaters release has been, probably real.

 

Are the actual models they've released "bad" or does the range just feel incomplete? Two very different issues - this ironically is a something the faction probably wants, but is a terrible rendition of it. 

[Arkley]

3 minutes ago, Vassakov said:

Are the actual models they've released "bad" or does the range just feel incomplete? Two very different issues - this ironically is a something the faction probably wants, but is a terrible rendition of it. 

Personally I feel the Eightbound to be objectively awful. But I do know a few people that like them.

 

I will add standard Zerkies and the Juggernaut Lord are excellent.

Edited yesterday at 05:12 PM by Arkley

[CL_Mission]

I hope it's fake, I don't collect World Eaters but I wouldn't want to wish this upon them.

[Lysimachus]

I'll admit to not knowing the World Eaters lore all that well, but in my head a Berzerker Surgeon is a Surgeon who creates Berzerkers, not a Surgeon who is a Berzerker...?

 

If it is real (and if I collected WE) I would definitely do a more Apothecary-based conversion - the MkV and MkVI ones are great!

 

 

[Focslain]

Looks like someone combined a techmarine and a khrone berserker.  Hoping this is fake just cause it looks bad, WE deserve better.

[Robbienw]

Looks like an early Mike Mcvey model from 1999.  Blatant fake.

[TheMawr]

Im one who does like the Eightbound ( though, mostly the non-exalted.. exalted works as the squadleader or something.) more than berzerkers... these are an aquired taste, but the bad is a different kind of bad.

 

While Im myself dont really have a strong opinion on it being fake or not..

Keep in mind that this also exists, and the main studio sculptors do crossover ( ex. Deathguard sculptors also worked on AoS nurgle stuff released around the same time. )

 

 

( and I dont like to dwell on negativity regarding creative work, the rotation on those salvage it a bit, and when imagining that the sculptor works on these digitally in greyscale, its an unfortunate combination of factors... nonetheless, the specific things that look off on the berzerker-surgeon also look off on these, wich might just be coincedence.)

 

[Scribe]

Wow, that model is something.

[redmapa]

God that thing is uglier than slapping your own mother, I hope its fake.

[Evil Eye]

The thing that has me thinking it's fake is the Chirurgeon arms, especially the needle; they're WAY too thin to cast even in resin, let alone hard plastic. Unless they're normal-sized and the model is actually huge, those things would snap if you breathed on the model funny. Also the pose looks weirdly similar to the AOS Slaughterpriest with the sword and flail?

[HeadlessCross]

2 hours ago, TheMawr said:

Im one who does like the Eightbound ( though, mostly the non-exalted.. exalted works as the squadleader or something.) more than berzerkers...

Berkserker Marines have the issue where all the models look exactly the same since they're always Right Hand = Pistol and Left Hand = Axe. The models themselves look great otherwise, but GW has always had this issue with dominant hands never switching up. 

[Corswain]

I'm calling AI but, to be fair, if it had leaked a lot of us would have thought the Custodian Shield-Captain was AI.

Edited 19 hours ago by Corswain

[Jings]

Never mind the various scaling issues and font styling, look at the artifacting by the right shoulder pad. It's a shoop. 

 

I'm almost certain the skull hanging from the chains on the belt is from the Chaos Vehicle Upgrade Sprue too, one of the spiked fence bits. 

Edited yesterday at 08:11 PM by Jings

[TheVoidDragon]

The main thing to me that suggests it's possible real is that you can make out some of the detail on the servo arm. It's vague because it's low quality, but it's in the correct place and broadly matches what's visible on the rumour engine photo. 

 

 

Either it's a fake that just so happens to get details that are in-line with this such as the piston on the back and the canister at the top, or it's real. 

[AvePicante]

Year of Chaos btw

[Dark Shepherd]

Hyphon in the name seems fishy too

[Armchair Warlord]

Somehow the box looks too big. Like its been superimposed on one of the 'A4 / vehicle' size boxes.  A questionable feeling I know, considering there is nothing else in the frame to add a sense of scale.

 

If it's fake - World eaters players can rejoice.

 

If it's real - This'll be gathering dust in their warehouse with the redone Lord Coteaz.

[Norman Paperman]

The model looks so blurry while the text on the box is crisp and legible. Model's feet also seem like they're not really painted in the 'eavy Metal scheme. Zooming in, there is some gentle edge highlighting on the shins and feet of the greaves, not anywhere near the crisp edge highlights that you expect on GW box art. 

 

Whole thing is just uncanny valley. 

[Joe]

16 hours ago, Dark Shepherd said:

Hyphon in the name seems fishy too

 

The hyphen in the name has been consistent every time Berzerker-Surgeon's have been mentioned.

[gaurdian31]

16 minutes ago, Norman Paperman said:

The model looks so blurry while the text on the box is crisp and legible. Model's feet also seem like they're not really painted in the 'eavy Metal scheme. Zooming in, there is some gentle edge highlighting on the shins and feet of the greaves, not anywhere near the crisp edge highlights that you expect on GW box art. 

 

Whole thing is just uncanny valley. 

Yeah the "box" looks so thin/flat. More like a template for a fake codex then a model. It just feels so off.