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On 11/3/2025 at 2:37 PM, TheVoidDragon said:

The main thing to me that suggests it's possible real is that you can make out some of the detail on the servo arm. It's vague because it's low quality, but it's in the correct place and broadly matches what's visible on the rumour engine photo. 

 

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Either it's a fake that just so happens to get details that are in-line with this such as the piston on the back and the canister at the top, or it's real. 

Preface - I have not watched the Auspex video nor seen any discourse on this before this thread. I've been looking at this rumor engine and the image and the level of overlap in the details seems pretty close to exact. If this was a faked image (manual or generative), I don't know if they would be able to properly translate that detail in the shifted perspective. If I remember when I get home from work I can look at it better not on a phone screen though.

5 hours ago, Pacific81 said:

I thought the concept of this was just so funny. How is a surgeon with the butcher's nails supposed to work, or at least carry out any medical procedure other than 'hack arms or legs off'? :biggrin:

 

The Heresy Era World Eaters already had a handful of Apothecaries who both had the Nails and knowledge of how to implant them in others, having being trained on Bodt. Gahlan Surlak, the Chief Apothecary of the Legion, is probably the clearest example - being the one who figured out the secrets of implanting the Butcher's Nails without killing the host and later (with help from Fabius Bile) mastered the art of creating Inductii at a time when the entire Legion, including him, was slaved to the Nails. Apothecary Kargos of the 8th Company had the Nails, but was not only able to continue to act as an Apothecary but was also often able to calm the rages of his brothers.

In later years / post Heresy there are examples of World Eaters being able to exhibit control to fairly high degrees even after they become Khornate. The World Eaters in some of the Khârn novels are able to hold themselves together long enough to sometimes discuss tactics in battle and to not just murder each other whilst trapped on a ship travelling between warzones. Firefist in ADB's Black Legion novels is able to restrain himself from battle in order to coordinate squads from the bridge of the Vengeful Spirit until the battle gets too close to resist, and is even able to back down from fights sometimes. Arrian Zorzi of the Consortium slaughtered his entire squad on Terra, but now claims (and indeed acts as if) he is completely free of the hunger of the Nails, and is an Apothecary. Fabrikus is a World Eater Apothecary and Chaos Lord who is still capable of dark experiments that lead to bio-mechanical armour and have seen him known by every Apothecarion in the Imperium as a dark legend - and his lore long predates any mention of the specific title of "Berzerker-Surgeon".

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