Berserker Surgeon? Real or Fake.

[TheVoidDragon]

That image makes me pretty certain it's a fake.

 

because from what I can tell, it's literally the same miniature as on the box art. Highlighted the exact same, most obvious by the small marks on the tabard matching, and you can even very faintly make out that slight mark on the inside of the left helmet bunny ear on both. 

 

It either means it's a fake, or they happen to have the 3d printed prototype that was used to paint and photograph it in the first place, which seems very unlikely to me. 

Edited 20 hours ago by TheVoidDragon

[chapter master 454]

Yea, looks like that's the source of the model then. And without the potato cam to hide it...the paintwork is nothing close to GWs standards so yea...looks like a nice model someone made and decided to have a bit of a lark with it and to their credit did pretty well. Not perfect but good enough to get people going.

[Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf]

2 hours ago, Tastyfish said:

You may be right - someone (Xttz) over at Dakka zoomed in.

 

Not necessarily a 3D from a fan. I remember when this also happened with some official dwarves from GW. So, I believe it's not a definitive proof.

https://descansodelescriba.blogspot.com/2014/02/anillos-en-las-figuras-de-los-enanos.html

 

Anyway,it can be official. But if it is,it's disappointing at least.

 

Edited 19 hours ago by Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf

[TheVoidDragon]

There's also that the servo-arm while the same in the main areas, seems to have some discrepancies when it comes to detail. The pipe on the top doesn't have anything that's obviously the band around it, and the edge of the clamp looks to be lacking the ridges. 

Edited 19 hours ago by TheVoidDragon

[Tastyfish]

2 hours ago, TheMawr said:

 

 

More devils advocateness

Studio paintjobs sometimes have it too ( here visible on her back skirt and the collar on the right as well.

 

It does discredit my option C above, but it doesnt discredit option B.

 

to summarise option B ( if you dont want to read all my text )

 

-- first picture leak of accidental received box
-- second picture wip leak from the studio painter who painted the miniature on the box.

 

Often 'Eavy Metal painters are giving a 3D print of the original design, so that they can spend a bit more time painting it up rather than having to wait for a full plastic production model to be produced. Of course a variant of the 'could it be real and a 3D print' would be that the 3D file was stolen (might even be an unfinished one or one that was scrapped), but I think if we're that far down the rabbit hole we're back to faking the box again and a somewhat shaky concept of whether something is 'real' or not.

[Orange Knight]

The paint job is what gives it away as a fake, in my opinion.

The model being held up there is the same one that was on the cover art.

 

That is no "eavy metal" paintjob.

 

Edit: I've just seen that others have come to the same conclusion. Now I imagine some basement dwelling demi-human is having a laugh at everyone's expense.

Edited 18 hours ago by Orange Knight

[Jukkiz]

After reading all the ideas and arguments. 

I still cannot wrap my head around how bothced this would be for GW. Even for modern, "clean" GW it feels... Wrong, way too nice, nothing says it´s World Eaters specifically, more like half baked idea that you could swap helmet, arms and paint it differently to indicate different legion alltogether. 

Argument about 3D printing has been proven 50/50 too as old GWs models were leaked long ago and modern designs can beat what GW itself offers in many ways. If not, make your own, get a buddy who has experience etc. 

We´re still waiting confirmation from GW and what they have done with modern leaks, has been confirming them quite fast if they were real... 

[sarabando]

ive been told that it is infact a print, a 3d designer offers as a extra for people purchasing over a certain amount on their store. I dont have their name but will ask if i can get it/share it. 

[JeffJedi]

Wow I've missed a lot. I've been playing with ai for a couple of months now. i took the image and made it at a different angle and a version with different weapons and arms. 

 

I'm not going to post them to avoid confusion.

 

could i make up a model from scratch with ai?  Easily.

 

Edit: and if that's the guys's real finger.... yikes.

Edited 7 hours ago by JeffJedi
added stuff

[ZeroWolf]

12 minutes ago, JeffJedi said:

Wow I've missed a lot. I've been playing with ai for a couple of months now. i took the image and made it at a different angle and a version with different weapons and arms. 

 

I'm not going to post them to avoid confusion.

 

could i make up a model from scratch with ai?  Easily.

 

Edit: and if that's the guys's real finger.... yikes.

I was going to question what you meant till I realised you were talking about the miniatures visible hand 

 

Seems like whoever designed it took inspiration from the first assassins creed game where they had to take one of the fingers off to fit their signature weapon (in this guys case it's a little chainsaw!)

[JeffJedi]

honestly i meant the 'finger' of the guy holding the base. haha 

 

anyway here is a fake image, a total fake. this is 2 sentences  at most and an image to start with. by the way it's fake. fake fake. ai fake.

 

the khorne fisherman is a fake. an ai fake that i just made. it better not show up in a new thread tomorrow, lol.

 

removed image because... well it's fake.

 

Edited 6 hours ago by JeffJedi
just in case

[Indy Techwisp]

24 minutes ago, JeffJedi said:

"BASS FOR THE BASS GOD!"

"CARP FOR THE CARP THRONE"

 

I think someone AI Generating a Model like this would be easier to spot imo, but equally if someone took this cleaned up the background you could probably pass it off as a very elaborate kitbash.

[ZeroWolf]

I think someone a few pages ago summed it up best as if it's fake, someone has put in a stupid amount of work to realise this fake.

If its real, then its definitely not one of GWs best works by a long shot, basically another Corteaz situation.

[Indy Techwisp]

26 minutes ago, ZeroWolf said:

I think someone a few pages ago summed it up best as if it's fake, someone has put in a stupid amount of work to realise this fake.

If its real, then its definitely not one of GWs best works by a long shot, basically another Corteaz situation.

 

I think this is actually someone trying to pass off an existing 3D print from a 3rd party seller as a real mini.

Presumably that mini was inspired by the rumour engine (although the base of the medicae arm looks thicker, as though they couldn't do the 2 hydraulic tubes on the back as seperate parts).

[Orange Knight]

Whoever made this is clearly aware of the discussion surrounding it. It has been mentioned by several of the biggest 40k channels and in several of the biggest forums.

Someone intentionally trolled people, and it's why I referred to them as a demi-human basement dweller in my previous post.

[TheMawr]

2 hours ago, Indy Techwisp said:

 

I think this is actually someone trying to pass off an existing 3D print from a 3rd party seller as a real mini.

Presumably that mini was inspired by the rumour engine (although the base of the medicae arm looks thicker, as though they couldn't do the 2 hydraulic tubes on the back as seperate parts).

 

 

That theory is 100% not the case 

There is about 2 weeks between rumor engine and the first post of this topic ( I dont know how much longer the "leak" existed )

 

A 3rd party seeing the RE, sculpting this, putting it online for sale, someone buying it, printing it, painting it and then photoshop the fake box is not a realistic thing to happen in less than 2 weeks.

 

Someone doing it themselves in 2 weeks, thats maybe possible, but the whole 3rd party seller In-between bit ? No. 

 

Btw the tubes on the back look seperate to me, You see the same bluer gray of the background object in between the parts that are a more metallic gray.

[TheVoidDragon]

5 hours ago, sarabando said:

ive been told that it is infact a print, a 3d designer offers as a extra for people purchasing over a certain amount on their store. I dont have their name but will ask if i can get it/share it. 

 

Have seen several claims like this since the start, yet no one just provides the evidence by showing it. 

[Armchair Warlord]

As a random point to throw in regarding 'strata / build lines

 

If you look closely at a Forgeworld Saul Tarvitz model straight out the pack...... You'll find such build lines that made it from the 3d printed master onto the final casting.

 

This isn't out of the norm with silicone moulding. But with plastic injection - no chance.