500 Worlds: Titus (Wardens of Ultramar & Nekrosor Ammentar)

[excelite]

Somehow to me Titus + retinue look like they were initially planned for a separate board game like Warhammer quest that was canceled …

Edited November 8 by excelite

[Northern Walker]

My boy Chairon getting done dirty. Don't be me wrong, Metaurus is kind cool as a character, but his aesthetic is just bladeguard sergeant plus smurf upgrade kit.

The humans are (mostly) decent but my response is just "ok" to them.

The necron stuff looks pretty good, but I have to say that on second viewing the Nightbringer is not as a cool as the Void Dragon.

[nodnol88]

I’m sort of meh about Titus and I collect UM’s.

 

Massive improvement on his previous mini, and the retinue are great…but Metaurus is just a Bladeguard Veteran with an upgrade sprue and he’s missing his iconic axe (good job there’s spares from everyone’s Victrix Guard, though not the same style). The others are cool and I love the inclusion of the auxiliar. Will be interesting to see their rules too. 
 

I also really like the book and how that’s put together. Can’t wait to see what else shakes loose in the end times of 10th. 
 
Yes, UM lost characters this edition but I would have preferred to see more unique units than another character. Updated TWV’s, a unique dreadnought or vehicle etc. Something to permeate the flavour of the chapter further across the army, like the new VHG have done.

 

Im mindful of other chapters and their fan’s who would love for an over abundance of character, so I won’t complain. 
 

I also get from a marketing point of view, it makes sense to ride the SM2 train as long as possible and promote Titus to a more prominent position, literally and in universe. 
 

Necron dude is awesome though. 

[Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf]

Where is Chairon?

 

AND WHERE IS LEANDROS??? We need to smash him!I NEED to smash him!

[ThePenitentOne]

I really like the non-marines; they would have made excellent generic Imperial weirdos.

 

Too bad they're part of a bespoke marine unit instead.

 

Do we think anyone else is going to get a cool campaign edition-ender, or is it just marines and Crons?

[Silvereyes]

I'm really interested what the content for the following books will be. I imagine all of them will have a lore book and a detachment booklet. But I'd be surprised if all of them have a Boarding Action supplement and a campaign system. Would be cool if each campaign book added different things. 10th could use some more wild and weird stuff to play with.

 

My theory: I wonder if GW is happy giving out loads of free detachments at the end of 10th because detachments will either be gotten rid of, or heavily changed once the 11th edition codices start arriving? I struggle to imagine the 11th edition codices simply just giving more detachments to armies. The issue with the detachment system is that you can only ever use 1 at a time. Fine when you have a decent number to choose from, like 6. But it becomes less interesting the more you have, since I imagine most players will just use a few, and stick to the ones they like.

[Blindhamster]

43 minutes ago, ThePenitentOne said:

I really like the non-marines; they would have made excellent generic Imperial weirdos.

 

Too bad they're part of a bespoke marine unit instead.

 

Do we think anyone else is going to get a cool campaign edition-ender, or is it just marines and Crons?

 

@Chapter Master Valrak said on his video about it, that as far as he knows they arent the end of edition campaign.

[Halandaar]

39 minutes ago, ThePenitentOne said:

I really like the non-marines; they would have made excellent generic Imperial weirdos.

 

Too bad they're part of a bespoke marine unit instead.

 

Do we think anyone else is going to get a cool campaign edition-ender, or is it just marines and Crons?

 

Oh there'll be at least four more books, each giving a few more factions a moment in the sun and excuse to release more character models. It's how these things go.

 

(Arks of Omen run included Azrael, Dante, The Lion, Vashtorr, Farsight, Snikrot and Angron, while Psychic Awakening featured Drazhar, Jain Zar, Shadowsun, Fabius Bile, Lazarus, Ragnar Blackmane, Ghazkull Thraka, Ephrael Stern and Illuminor Szeras)

 

Seen the start of it with the named Votann and Tau characters, and there'll be a big "surprise" for the end (guess this is where the rumour of Guilliman getting another model comes in)

[Lathe Biosas]

Wait? How come we've skipped over the greatest Ultramarine video game character: Malum Caedo. 

 

(AKA the Veteran Space Marine from Boltgun.)

[DeadFingers]

Just now, Halandaar said:

 

Oh there'll be at least four more books, each giving a few more factions a moment in the sun and excuse to release more character models. It's how these things go.

 

(Arks of Omen run included Azrael, Dante, The Lion, Vashtorr, Farsight, Snikrot and Angron, while Psychic Awakening featured Drazhar, Jain Zar, Shadowsun, Fabius Bile, Lazarus, Ragnar Blackmane, Ghazkull Thraka, Ephrael Stern and Illuminor Szeras)

 

Seen the start of it with the named Votann and Tau characters, and there'll be a big "surprise" for the end (guess this is where the rumour of Guilliman getting another model comes in)

Curiously, I think Valrak mentioned in his latest video that he thinks this 500 Worlds thing isn't the narrative series. No idea about details, kinda been told about it second hand, so take that grain of salt with a grain of salt. Though with Boole's latest rumourmongering nonsense placing Yriel at the Maelstrom, which is very much not in Ultramar turf, maybe there's a point in there. Although Valrak also said (no idea if legit rumour or personal speculation) that every book would take place in a different place. So who knows, really.

 

I do know Valrak's said the updated Guilliman seemed to be a fake rumour, so there's that.

[Subtleknife]

Im torn about on this new UM unit. On one hand, Titus is a clear upgrade over his previous model. I would prefer a more dynamic pose but the model looks cool. 

 

The standard bearer is good too, although starting to get a bit generic. The bladeguard though just looks phoned in.

 

On top of that, the humans are cool....but....if I am playing a marine army I dont want to be forced to take baseline humans - hopefully there is an option just to take titus and the standard bearer. Furthermore, we already have a bunch of command squad options from company of heroes to victrix. 

 

I would have much preferred another unique unit and Titus as a single mini. Maybe Gman reformed the Nid hunters into a generic monster hunting unit etc. That could have been cool. 

 

I do like the lore update though. I hope Capt Acheran died on a planet with two marines (as that was all he could spare).

Edited November 8 by Subtleknife

[Mogger351]

26 minutes ago, DeadFingers said:

Curiously, I think Valrak mentioned in his latest video that he thinks this 500 Worlds thing isn't the narrative series. No idea about details, kinda been told about it second hand, so take that grain of salt with a grain of salt. Though with Boole's latest rumourmongering nonsense placing Yriel at the Maelstrom, which is very much not in Ultramar turf, maybe there's a point in there. Although Valrak also said (no idea if legit rumour or personal speculation) that every book would take place in a different place. So who knows, really.

 

I do know Valrak's said the updated Guilliman seemed to be a fake rumour, so there's that.

The maelstrom is Hurons domain as well, so them both being there for a pirate-off makes sense.

[TheVoidDragon]

A huge improvement over the previous model of Titus that looked like he was stumbling about drunk. Unfortunately Metaurus looks very bland though,  he's basically just a typical bladeguard with a different head. They could have at least given him his axe and a unique shield. Gadrial is alright. I think the human characters are just fantastic though, plenty of unique character and personality to them! 

 

[Nephaston]

35 minutes ago, Mogger351 said:

The maelstrom is Hurons domain as well, so them both being there for a pirate-off makes sense.

 

I'm fairly certain it's gonna be multiple different warzones all following the same structure as 500 worlds. With a whole campaign system for the specific sector, a model for the titular character and an antagonist, with the antagonist also having a battalion.

So for Huron/Yriel it's gonna be something like Maelstrom: Blackheart, Huron with maybe a retinue, Yriel with Battalion: Eldar Corsairs.

[Jscarlos18]

5 minutes ago, Nephaston said:

 

I'm fairly certain it's gonna be multiple different warzones all following the same structure as 500 worlds. With a whole campaign system for the specific sector, a model for the titular character and an antagonist, with the antagonist also having a battalion.

So for Huron/Yriel it's gonna be something like Maelstrom: Blackheart, Huron with maybe a retinue, Yriel with Battalion: Eldar Corsairs.

Good theory, it seems the most logical step but who knows if GW will throw us a curveball.

[Emperor Ming]

Anyone else think 500 worlds, is just a naff name?

 

They could have went with anything...

 

War for Ultramar

Warzone Ultramar

The Wrath of Nekrosor (necron guy)

The subsidy war for ever increasing shareholder dividends 

[Orange Knight]

10 hours ago, Emperor Ming said:

Anyone else think 500 worlds, is just a naff name?

 

They could have went with anything...

 

War for Ultramar

Warzone Ultramar

The Wrath of Nekrosor (necron guy)

The subsidy war for ever increasing shareholder dividends 

 

I think it's fine. The 500 worlds are ingrained in people's minds.

 

What I find funny is that new Horus Heresy book series - GW cut a 60 book saga down to just 12 novels, admitting that 48 of them were a waste of time (Sorry Space Wolves, all your escapades were surplus to requirement).

 

One of the cut novels is "The Unremembered Empire" which is a naff book, but I disagree with it's omission as it's a significant plot in modern 40k and one of the cliffhanger plots from the excellent Dark Imperium trilogy. 

Also, I'm disappointed that "Scars" didn't make the cut as it's just a great book!

 

Getting past all that, this campaign promises lots of lore and this is great because it looks like we are finally moving past the "Dark Imperium" era and into new lore developments.

 

 

[Magos Takatus]

13 hours ago, Mogger351 said:

The maelstrom is Hurons domain as well, so them both being there for a pirate-off makes sense.

Man, I really need a good pirate-off now. Throw in some Freebootas and an Adeptus Mechanicus Explorator with a heckin' big Ark Mechanicus, a mechanical leg and a fancy hat and I'm absolutely there. Hell, Drukhari are pretty much the pirate faction, give them some fun too. add a new Rogue Trader... All good.

 

As for this 500 worlds release, I have openly stated that I have crippling Ultra-fatigue, but... I'm kinda digging that Titus model. He looks like he's matured as a character with that more stoic pose, like he's a real commander. I know some people have been saying the pose looks a little static, but we had a dynamic Lieutenant Titus... it didn't end well. 

 

I'm also very intrigued by the goals of this new Necron character. I imagine quite a few of the existing Necron characters are going to absolutely hate him. Considering what the Silent King had to do to throw off the shackles of the C'Tan and what it cost the Necrontyr in the first place, there will be a lot of Necrons wanting to tear this guy limb from limb and stick him in a stasis crypt. For the Necron fans I can see this being a really interesting development for them. 

[Lathe Biosas]

After looking at the new Titus model, I had a sudden burst of insight and then shook my fist to the heavens, as I truly understood GW's truly evil plan!

 

What model came with every game, book, and box lately? Titus.

 

I couldn't help but wonder why GW was giving him away. But now I understand. He has a new model that's even better and attached to an awesome box set.

 

It was just to draw us in. I don't play Space Marines... but I had the idea planted in my head... "Wouldn't it be cool to play Ultramarines?"

 

Well played GW... Well played.

[Emperor Ming]

Well its just the final cash grab before 11th I assume.....

[TheMawr]

I really hope with the stronger Spacemarine 2 integration in the TTG, they remember this one from secret level.. and during the reveal stream of titus I was almost expecting to see it. ( after all, Thousand sons/Tzeentch feel very fitting for a Necron matchup guest appearance and it would be kind of explaining, even if it became clear its a one-off story, why the GNO had TS vs Necrons on their mind.)

 

Would be (for me) a very welcome addition to the "Thousand Sons" codex. ( though interestingly, I always thought it was a tzeentch daemon, but apparently its a very gifted mortal champion ? Are the similar vibe AoS ones mortal as well ? ( I thought the gaunt summoners where daemons )

[Indy Techwisp]

2 minutes ago, TheMawr said:

I really hope with the stronger Spacemarine 2 integration in the TTG, they remember this one from secret level.. and during the reveal stream of titus I was almost expecting to see it. ( after all, Thousand sons/Tzeentch feel very fitting for a Necron matchup guest appearance and it would be kind of explaining, even if it became clear its a one-off story, why the GNO had TS vs Necrons on their mind.)

 

Would be (for me) a very welcome addition to the "Thousand Sons" codex. ( though interestingly, I always thought it was a tzeentch daemon, but apparently its a very gifted mortal champion ? Are the similar vibe AoS ones mortal as well ? ( I thought the gaunt summoners where daemons )

 

They'd be a wonderful TSons Mortal Character addition but we kinda lack anything for them to lead until GW gives us some kind of unique Cultist (Tzaangors don't count).

[Nephaston]

20 minutes ago, TheMawr said:

 

I can fix her...

[TheVoidDragon]

Interesting that the cover of the Titus book involves art of non-Primaris Marines and the classic dreadnought. The book description says it just covers the lore of the 500 worlds campaign so not sure why they'd go for that if it's a past event not directly relevant. 

[Deus_Ex_Machina]

500 worlds? So does this mean 500 habitable worlds or are bare rocks and gas giants included? Anyway, here is Gee-Dubbs plan to milk the normies:

 

Each week will see the battle at one world with accompanying merchandise material of heroes, villains and whatnot in the form of collectible stickers and a large tome to stick them all in. In a year this will mean Little Timmy will be able/forced to buy 52 of them. And to collect all stickers for each world event in the campaign he will be spending ca. 9.6 years. Great move, Gee-Dubbs. And be wary of duplicates, folks!