Wolf Scouts have arrived!

[TiguriusX]

5 hours ago, Karhedron said:

Yes, the inconsistency is strange. I wonder if it is because Headtakers already have a potential source of MWs built-in from the Quarry rule?

 

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence

[Kassill]

19 hours ago, Wolf Guard Dan said:

I am surprised Headtakers don't have grenades. I had to double check that. Bladeguard & Sang Guard do. Inner circle companions do not. There should be some consistency for that between those elite marine infantry units IMO.

100% 

Do sword bros have them? They have gnarly rules and with 2 characters attached can punch really far up without having to play a mini game like Head Takers do 

[Jorin Helm-splitter]

@Kassill - Victrix don't have them (assuming there what you meant by sword bros). At the end of the day, I'm pretty sure headtakers don't have grenades because the models don't have them. I just feel like I've been conditioned to think that marines in power armor have them, so I expected them to be there and will give people the benefit of doubt for that reason. 

[Wolf Guard Dan]

5 hours ago, Kassill said:

100% 

Do sword bros have them? They have gnarly rules and with 2 characters attached can punch really far up without having to play a mini game like Head Takers do 

I don’t have their book but games-workshop says they do have grenades 

[Karhedron]

Looking at elite melee units, with or without Grenades gives the following

 

Yes Sanguinary Guard

Yes Bladeguard Veterans

Yes Company Heroes

 

No Inner Circle Companions

No Wolf Guard Headtakers

No Victrix Honour Guard

 

So it looks like Sanguinary Guard are the anomaly in being the only chapter-specific honour guard unit to have Grenades

[Knightsword]

I don't have the BT codex to hand but a certain site that has datasheets says Sword Brethren have Grenades too. Seems a bit arbitrary on whether or not one unit has it and another faction equivalent doesn't.

Edited Wednesday at 10:26 AM by Knightsword
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[TiguriusX]

Had a scrimmage with the hunter list 

 

Against BA angelic inheritors with 2 lancers and plasma inceptor brick

 

Went second and conceded round 4

 

A melee list with no advance/charge

no lance on demand

no AP buff

 

sanguinary guard ate my stuff with no difficulty 

 

I'll keep trying but I dont know if this list is really viable in an actual meta event

[Hear da Lamentation]

3 hours ago, TiguriusX said:

Had a scrimmage with the hunter list 

 

Against BA angelic inheritors with 2 lancers and plasma inceptor brick

 

Went second and conceded round 4

 

A melee list with no advance/charge

no lance on demand

no AP buff

 

sanguinary guard ate my stuff with no difficulty 

 

I'll keep trying but I dont know if this list is really viable in an actual meta event

 

I get this (and admittedly I'm a complete newb to 10th edition).  But isn't this almost the same as with Saga of the Beastslayer (our much more popular choice).  Is Sustained Hits really worth losing advance and charge? OK ... its nice to have, it punches up a bit on low Strength attacks against high T targets (which seems our "bag") but is it really that good?  Or are there stratagems I am missing that make up for it?

HDL

[TiguriusX]

1 hour ago, Hear da Lamentation said:

 

I get this (and admittedly I'm a complete newb to 10th edition).  But isn't this almost the same as with Saga of the Beastslayer (our much more popular choice).  Is Sustained Hits really worth losing advance and charge? OK ... its nice to have, it punches up a bit on low Strength attacks against high T targets (which seems our "bag") but is it really that good?  Or are there stratagems I am missing that make up for it?

HDL

I dont play beastslayer because yes...melee problems lol

 

Although beastslayer does have reactive moves and wound +1 on demand that make it more flexible

 

I usually play gladius SW for advance + charge and lance + extra AP

 

But I am currently experimenting with everything b/c I can't find anything that feels good yet.

 

Here is my vanguard list (LRR and vindicators with stealth are surprisingly durable)

Spoiler

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

+ FACTION KEYWORD: Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Space Wolves

+ DETACHMENT: Vanguard Spearhead

+ TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 1995pts

+ ALLIED UNITS: Agents of the Imperium

+

+ WARLORD: Char1: Bjorn the Fell-Handed

+ ENHANCEMENT: Execute and Redeploy (on Char3: Lieutenant with Combi-weapon)

+ NUMBER OF UNITS: 14

+ SECONDARY: - Bring It Down: (3x2) + (1x4) - Assassination: 4 Characters

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

 

Char1: 1x Bjorn the Fell-Handed (170 pts): Warlord, Heavy Flamer, Trueclaw, Helfrost cannon

Char2: 1x Logan Grimnar (110 pts): Axe Morkai, Storm Bolter, Tyrnak and Fenrir

Char3: 1x Lieutenant with Combi-weapon (90 pts): Combi-weapon, Paired Combat Blades

Enhancement: Execute and Redeploy (+20 pts)

 

5x Desolation Squad (200 pts)

• 4x Desolation Marine: 4 with Bolt pistol, Castellan Launcher, Close combat weapon, Superkrak Rocket Launcher

• 1x Desolation Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Castellan Launcher, Close combat weapon, Vengor Launcher

 

5x Infiltrator Squad (100 pts)

• 4x Infiltrator

2 with Infiltrator Squad, Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Marksman Bolt Carbine

1 with Infiltrator Comms Array, Infiltrator Squad, Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Marksman Bolt Carbine

1 with Helix Gauntlet, Infiltrator Squad, Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Marksman Bolt Carbine

• 1x Infiltrator Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Marksman Bolt Carbine

 

6x Wolf Guard Headtakers (170 pts): 6 with Heavy Bolt Pistol, Paired Master-crafted Power Weapons

6x Wolf Guard Headtakers (170 pts): 6 with Heavy Bolt Pistol, Paired Master-crafted Power Weapons

 

6x Wolf Guard Headtakers (110 pts)

• 3x Wolf Guard Headtakers: 3 with Heavy Bolt Pistol, Paired Master-crafted Power Weapons

• 3x Hunting Wolves: 3 with Teeth and Claws

 

5x Fenrisian Wolves (40 pts): 5 with Teeth and claws

 

1x Land Raider Redeemer (270 pts): Armoured Tracks, 2x Flamestorm Cannon, Hunter-killer missile, Multi-melta, Storm Bolter, Twin Assault Cannon

 

1x Vindicator (185 pts): Armoured Tracks, Demolisher Cannon, Hunter-killer missile, Storm Bolter

1x Vindicator (185 pts): Armoured Tracks, Demolisher Cannon, Hunter-killer missile, Storm Bolter

 

Char4: 4x Rogue Trader Entourage (105 pts)

• 1x Rogue Trader: Household pistol, Monomolecular cane-rapier

• 1x Death Cult Assassin: Dartmask, Death Cult power blade

• 1x Lectro-maester: Close combat weapon, Voltaic pistol

• 1x Rejuvenant Adept: Healing Serum, Close combat weapon, Laspistol

 

10x Imperial Navy Breachers (90 pts)

• 9x Navis Armsman

7 with Close combat weapon, Navis shotgun

1 with Close combat weapon, Navis las-volley

1 with Endurant shield, Close combat weapon, Navis heavy shotgun, Demolition charge

• 1x Navis Sergeant-at-Arms: Close combat weapon, Navis shotgun

 

Here is my last gladius list

Spoiler

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

+ FACTION KEYWORD: Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Space Wolves

+ DETACHMENT: Gladius Task Force

+ TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 2000pts

+

+ WARLORD: Char3: Judiciar

+ ENHANCEMENT: Artificer Armour (on Char3: Judiciar)

+ NUMBER OF UNITS: 18

+ SECONDARY: - Bring It Down: (5x2) - Assassination: 5 Characters

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

 

Char1: 1x Bjorn the Fell-Handed (170 pts): Heavy Flamer, Trueclaw, Helfrost cannon

Char2: 1x Logan Grimnar (110 pts): Axe Morkai, Storm Bolter, Tyrnak and Fenrir

Char3: 1x Judiciar (80 pts): Warlord, Absolver Bolt Pistol, Executioner Relic Blade

Enhancement: Artificer Armour (+10 pts)

Char4: 1x Lieutenant in Phobos Armour (55 pts): Bolt pistol, Master-crafted Scoped Bolt Carbine, Paired Combat Blades

Char5: 1x Lieutenant with Combi-weapon (70 pts): Combi-weapon, Paired Combat Blades

 

6x Bladeguard Veteran Squad (170 pts)

• 1x Bladeguard Veteran Sergeant: Master-crafted Power Weapon, Heavy Bolt Pistol

• 5x Bladeguard Veterans: 5 with Heavy Bolt Pistol, Master-crafted Power Weapon

3x Eliminator Squad (85 pts)

• 2x Eliminator: 2 with Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Las fusil

• 1x Eliminator Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Instigator Bolt Carbine

3x Eliminator Squad (85 pts)

• 2x Eliminator: 2 with Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Las fusil

• 1x Eliminator Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Instigator Bolt Carbine

5x Incursor Squad (80 pts)

• 4x Incursor

3 with Incursor Squad, Bolt pistol, Occulus Bolt Carbine, Paired Combat Blades

1 with Haywire Mine, Incursor Squad, Bolt pistol, Occulus Bolt Carbine, Paired Combat Blades

• 1x Incursor Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Occulus Bolt Carbine, Paired Combat Blades

5x Infiltrator Squad (100 pts)

• 4x Infiltrator

2 with Infiltrator Squad, Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Marksman Bolt Carbine

1 with Infiltrator Comms Array, Infiltrator Squad, Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Marksman Bolt Carbine

1 with Helix Gauntlet, Infiltrator Squad, Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Marksman Bolt Carbine

• 1x Infiltrator Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Marksman Bolt Carbine

6x Wolf Guard Headtakers (170 pts): 6 with Heavy Bolt Pistol, Paired Master-crafted Power Weapons

6x Wolf Guard Headtakers (110 pts)

• 3x Wolf Guard Headtakers: 3 with Heavy Bolt Pistol, Paired Master-crafted Power Weapons

• 3x Hunting Wolves: 3 with Teeth and Claws

5x Fenrisian Wolves (40 pts): 5 with Teeth and claws

5x Fenrisian Wolves (40 pts): 5 with Teeth and claws

1x Vindicator (185 pts): Armoured Tracks, Demolisher Cannon, Hunter-killer missile, Storm Bolter

1x Vindicator (185 pts): Armoured Tracks, Demolisher Cannon, Hunter-killer missile, Storm Bolter

1x Vindicator (185 pts): Armoured Tracks, Demolisher Cannon, Hunter-killer missile, Storm Bolter

1x Impulsor (80 pts): Shield Dome, Armoured Hull, Ironhail Heavy Stubber, 2x Storm Bolter

 

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 08:50 PM by TiguriusX

[jpwyrm]

On 11/26/2025 at 3:23 PM, TiguriusX said:

I dont play beastslayer because yes...melee problems lol

 

Although beastslayer does have reactive moves and wound +1 on demand that make it more flexible

 

I usually play gladius SW for advance + charge and lance + extra AP

 

But I am currently experimenting with everything b/c I can't find anything that feels good yet.

 

Here is my vanguard list (LRR and vindicators with stealth are surprisingly durable)

  Reveal hidden contents

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

+ FACTION KEYWORD: Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Space Wolves

+ DETACHMENT: Vanguard Spearhead

+ TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 1995pts

+ ALLIED UNITS: Agents of the Imperium

+

+ WARLORD: Char1: Bjorn the Fell-Handed

+ ENHANCEMENT: Execute and Redeploy (on Char3: Lieutenant with Combi-weapon)

+ NUMBER OF UNITS: 14

+ SECONDARY: - Bring It Down: (3x2) + (1x4) - Assassination: 4 Characters

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

 

Char1: 1x Bjorn the Fell-Handed (170 pts): Warlord, Heavy Flamer, Trueclaw, Helfrost cannon

Char2: 1x Logan Grimnar (110 pts): Axe Morkai, Storm Bolter, Tyrnak and Fenrir

Char3: 1x Lieutenant with Combi-weapon (90 pts): Combi-weapon, Paired Combat Blades

Enhancement: Execute and Redeploy (+20 pts)

 

5x Desolation Squad (200 pts)

• 4x Desolation Marine: 4 with Bolt pistol, Castellan Launcher, Close combat weapon, Superkrak Rocket Launcher

• 1x Desolation Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Castellan Launcher, Close combat weapon, Vengor Launcher

 

5x Infiltrator Squad (100 pts)

• 4x Infiltrator

2 with Infiltrator Squad, Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Marksman Bolt Carbine

1 with Infiltrator Comms Array, Infiltrator Squad, Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Marksman Bolt Carbine

1 with Helix Gauntlet, Infiltrator Squad, Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Marksman Bolt Carbine

• 1x Infiltrator Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Marksman Bolt Carbine

 

6x Wolf Guard Headtakers (170 pts): 6 with Heavy Bolt Pistol, Paired Master-crafted Power Weapons

6x Wolf Guard Headtakers (170 pts): 6 with Heavy Bolt Pistol, Paired Master-crafted Power Weapons

 

6x Wolf Guard Headtakers (110 pts)

• 3x Wolf Guard Headtakers: 3 with Heavy Bolt Pistol, Paired Master-crafted Power Weapons

• 3x Hunting Wolves: 3 with Teeth and Claws

 

5x Fenrisian Wolves (40 pts): 5 with Teeth and claws

 

1x Land Raider Redeemer (270 pts): Armoured Tracks, 2x Flamestorm Cannon, Hunter-killer missile, Multi-melta, Storm Bolter, Twin Assault Cannon

 

1x Vindicator (185 pts): Armoured Tracks, Demolisher Cannon, Hunter-killer missile, Storm Bolter

1x Vindicator (185 pts): Armoured Tracks, Demolisher Cannon, Hunter-killer missile, Storm Bolter

 

Char4: 4x Rogue Trader Entourage (105 pts)

• 1x Rogue Trader: Household pistol, Monomolecular cane-rapier

• 1x Death Cult Assassin: Dartmask, Death Cult power blade

• 1x Lectro-maester: Close combat weapon, Voltaic pistol

• 1x Rejuvenant Adept: Healing Serum, Close combat weapon, Laspistol

 

10x Imperial Navy Breachers (90 pts)

• 9x Navis Armsman

7 with Close combat weapon, Navis shotgun

1 with Close combat weapon, Navis las-volley

1 with Endurant shield, Close combat weapon, Navis heavy shotgun, Demolition charge

• 1x Navis Sergeant-at-Arms: Close combat weapon, Navis shotgun

 

Here is my last gladius list

  Reveal hidden contents

 

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

+ FACTION KEYWORD: Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Space Wolves

+ DETACHMENT: Gladius Task Force

+ TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 2000pts

+

+ WARLORD: Char3: Judiciar

+ ENHANCEMENT: Artificer Armour (on Char3: Judiciar)

+ NUMBER OF UNITS: 18

+ SECONDARY: - Bring It Down: (5x2) - Assassination: 5 Characters

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

 

Char1: 1x Bjorn the Fell-Handed (170 pts): Heavy Flamer, Trueclaw, Helfrost cannon

Char2: 1x Logan Grimnar (110 pts): Axe Morkai, Storm Bolter, Tyrnak and Fenrir

Char3: 1x Judiciar (80 pts): Warlord, Absolver Bolt Pistol, Executioner Relic Blade

Enhancement: Artificer Armour (+10 pts)

Char4: 1x Lieutenant in Phobos Armour (55 pts): Bolt pistol, Master-crafted Scoped Bolt Carbine, Paired Combat Blades

Char5: 1x Lieutenant with Combi-weapon (70 pts): Combi-weapon, Paired Combat Blades

 

6x Bladeguard Veteran Squad (170 pts)

• 1x Bladeguard Veteran Sergeant: Master-crafted Power Weapon, Heavy Bolt Pistol

• 5x Bladeguard Veterans: 5 with Heavy Bolt Pistol, Master-crafted Power Weapon

3x Eliminator Squad (85 pts)

• 2x Eliminator: 2 with Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Las fusil

• 1x Eliminator Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Instigator Bolt Carbine

3x Eliminator Squad (85 pts)

• 2x Eliminator: 2 with Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Las fusil

• 1x Eliminator Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Instigator Bolt Carbine

5x Incursor Squad (80 pts)

• 4x Incursor

3 with Incursor Squad, Bolt pistol, Occulus Bolt Carbine, Paired Combat Blades

1 with Haywire Mine, Incursor Squad, Bolt pistol, Occulus Bolt Carbine, Paired Combat Blades

• 1x Incursor Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Occulus Bolt Carbine, Paired Combat Blades

5x Infiltrator Squad (100 pts)

• 4x Infiltrator

2 with Infiltrator Squad, Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Marksman Bolt Carbine

1 with Infiltrator Comms Array, Infiltrator Squad, Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Marksman Bolt Carbine

1 with Helix Gauntlet, Infiltrator Squad, Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Marksman Bolt Carbine

• 1x Infiltrator Sergeant: Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon, Marksman Bolt Carbine

6x Wolf Guard Headtakers (170 pts): 6 with Heavy Bolt Pistol, Paired Master-crafted Power Weapons

6x Wolf Guard Headtakers (110 pts)

• 3x Wolf Guard Headtakers: 3 with Heavy Bolt Pistol, Paired Master-crafted Power Weapons

• 3x Hunting Wolves: 3 with Teeth and Claws

5x Fenrisian Wolves (40 pts): 5 with Teeth and claws

5x Fenrisian Wolves (40 pts): 5 with Teeth and claws

1x Vindicator (185 pts): Armoured Tracks, Demolisher Cannon, Hunter-killer missile, Storm Bolter

1x Vindicator (185 pts): Armoured Tracks, Demolisher Cannon, Hunter-killer missile, Storm Bolter

1x Vindicator (185 pts): Armoured Tracks, Demolisher Cannon, Hunter-killer missile, Storm Bolter

1x Impulsor (80 pts): Shield Dome, Armoured Hull, Ironhail Heavy Stubber, 2x Storm Bolter

 

 

 

 

 

Rogue Trader Entourage and Breachers are interesting choices even though 195 points seems like a big price tag for an Infiltration blob that can be relocated before the battle begins.