TheWarmaster Posted December 18, 2025 Share Posted December 18, 2025 This Grotmas calendar is such a let down. People actually look forward to these. Mainly for reveals. And this has been dire tbh. I’m sure they’ll reveal ‘something’ at the end still.. but these daily articles aren’t even worth visiting the site for at this point. Felix Antipodes, Marshal Loss, HolyPestilience and 5 others 1 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387175-grotmas-calendar-2025/page/11/#findComment-6147592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted December 19, 2025 Share Posted December 19, 2025 14 hours ago, TheWarmaster said: This Grotmas calendar is such a let down. People actually look forward to these. Mainly for reveals. And this has been dire tbh. I’m sure they’ll reveal ‘something’ at the end still.. but these daily articles aren’t even worth visiting the site for at this point. The most interaction I've had with this year's Grotmas is rapidly scrolling to the end of the article to get the teaser for the next day. Lathe Biosas, HolyPestilience, Sir Clausel and 2 others 1 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387175-grotmas-calendar-2025/page/11/#findComment-6147618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted December 19, 2025 Share Posted December 19, 2025 I'm happy to see the SM2 Operation rules show up outside of a White Dwarf. I bought a WD for the Mounted gameplay rules and saw the final part of the SM2 stuff and thought to myself "oh look, something cool I'll never get to properly see". Not the glorious Starshatter Detachment of yesteryear, and I'd need to find someone with the requisite Tyranid models, but still appreciated. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387175-grotmas-calendar-2025/page/11/#findComment-6147621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted December 19, 2025 Author Share Posted December 19, 2025 As expected, today's a Yriel story. Definitely foreshadowing the previous rumour, then. AoS fiction teased next. LSM and Lathe Biosas 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387175-grotmas-calendar-2025/page/11/#findComment-6147623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jscarlos18 Posted December 19, 2025 Share Posted December 19, 2025 Yriel refresh getting more weight with today's article, awesome. If true, I imagine they will be slotted into the Aeldari/Craftworld codex like Ynnari and Harlequins. Hopefully one day they give/return us individual codex for those eldar subfactions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387175-grotmas-calendar-2025/page/11/#findComment-6147624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Valrak Posted December 19, 2025 Share Posted December 19, 2025 Spoiler Soon.gif Mechanicus Tech-Support, StrangerOrders, Lathe Biosas and 1 other 2 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387175-grotmas-calendar-2025/page/11/#findComment-6147626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFingers Posted December 19, 2025 Share Posted December 19, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lord Marshal said: As expected, today's a Yriel story. Definitely foreshadowing the previous rumour, then. AoS fiction teased next. So, question for the eldar loreheads. What's the "Nightmare Gulf"? Eye of Terror, Maelstrom, Cicatrix in general? Edited December 19, 2025 by DeadFingers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387175-grotmas-calendar-2025/page/11/#findComment-6147628 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerOrders Posted December 19, 2025 Share Posted December 19, 2025 So whats folks money on? Just Yrael on Xmas or him and some of his rumoured faction? Cause I think last Xenos Xmas had that full Eldar vs. CSM boxset with a bunch of new units no? Lord Marshal 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387175-grotmas-calendar-2025/page/11/#findComment-6147629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalmer Posted December 19, 2025 Share Posted December 19, 2025 1 hour ago, DeadFingers said: So, question for the eldar loreheads. What's the "Nightmare Gulf"? Eye of Terror, Maelstrom, Cicatrix in general? The Nightmare Gulf is in the Eye of Terror... if I recall it's the epicenter of the Fall (psychic blast from birth of Slaanesh). It's been a while though so apologies if I'm off Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387175-grotmas-calendar-2025/page/11/#findComment-6147640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exarch Telepse-Ehto Posted December 19, 2025 Share Posted December 19, 2025 1 hour ago, DeadFingers said: So, question for the eldar loreheads. What's the "Nightmare Gulf"? Eye of Terror, Maelstrom, Cicatrix in general? I can't actually find anything on it after a few cursory searches, but my guesses would be: 1)The Aeldari name for the area of space in the 500 Worlds where Titus is about to go fight Nekrosor Ammentar. Probably because of the multiple Nightbringer shards; 2)The name of the boxset that the Corsairs will be in (not sure the rumors on the Corsair boxset); 3) The name of the second part of the 500 Worlds campaign. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387175-grotmas-calendar-2025/page/11/#findComment-6147642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMawr Posted December 19, 2025 Share Posted December 19, 2025 1 hour ago, DeadFingers said: So, question for the eldar loreheads. What's the "Nightmare Gulf"? Eye of Terror, Maelstrom, Cicatrix in general? Considering the naming and description I think it refers to the Maelstrom ( wich is a sort of gulf ) But this is also colored because Boole already rumored that prince Yriel would feature there. The wording is new, and they have another name for Cicatrix ( and I think Eye of terror too.) but I dont think there has ever been narratives where eldar ( except those who where side characters ) featured in the maelstrom. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387175-grotmas-calendar-2025/page/11/#findComment-6147643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMawr Posted December 19, 2025 Share Posted December 19, 2025 "Danger is assured; aliens and cursed tides, betrayal and greed, reavers and tyrants." Is also very on the nose, and generally how the maelstrom is described. The eye of terror would be described much more daemonic and they would have made references to their ancient eldar empire. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387175-grotmas-calendar-2025/page/11/#findComment-6147644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodhound23 Posted December 19, 2025 Share Posted December 19, 2025 4 hours ago, Indy Techwisp said: The most interaction I've had with this year's Grotmas is rapidly scrolling to the end of the article to get the teaser for the next day. There’s a actually less new stuff than a regular work week. Lathe Biosas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387175-grotmas-calendar-2025/page/11/#findComment-6147651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tastyfish Posted December 20, 2025 Share Posted December 20, 2025 Have we had a particularly exciting one other than last year's? I can remember 2021 where there was the day by day rumour engine for Eldritch Omens, but not really any of the others. However, from this lore article we have the name of the new Corsair psyker character (Void Dreamer) from Valrak's rumours. DemonGSides 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387175-grotmas-calendar-2025/page/11/#findComment-6147689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted December 20, 2025 Share Posted December 20, 2025 3 hours ago, Tastyfish said: Have we had a particularly exciting one other than last year's? I can remember 2021 where there was the day by day rumour engine for Eldritch Omens, but not really any of the others. However, from this lore article we have the name of the new Corsair psyker character (Void Dreamer) from Valrak's rumours. Last year really got people's expectations out of whack. This years definitely feels a bit light, even for a 'normal' year, but nothing is going to compare to last year. Lathe Biosas and Lord Marshal 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387175-grotmas-calendar-2025/page/11/#findComment-6147696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMawr Posted December 20, 2025 Share Posted December 20, 2025 1 hour ago, Tastyfish said: Have we had a particularly exciting one other than last year's? I can remember 2021 where there was the day by day rumour engine for Eldritch Omens, but not really any of the others. However, from this lore article we have the name of the new Corsair psyker character (Void Dreamer) from Valrak's rumours. Void dreamer is an older title .. and many theorised that Valraks rumor is a void dreamer, considering it previously was the corsair psyker it makes sense,. Though before this I wasnt certain. Delving a bit deeper into the rumors; Valraks rumor very noticably lacks a generic corsair prince, but I think the solution to this will be in one of two options ( Im 90% certain Yriel wont be a dual kit ) : -- current Autarch = corsair prince, corsairs are not a seperate faction like ynnari and harlequins are, and I think the rumored release wont change that. ( I think they will all be Asuryani datasheets.) as such, a detachment could just use Autarchs for this role, allowing them to lead the corsair units. After all, in the concept art for Autarchs there was the note that they are a collective name for Nobles/Pirate princes/Fleet lords etc ; ( btw, I now see where I remember the similarity for the 500 worlds logo from, Jes goodwin sometimes framed his titles like that with a similar R.. see at the right.) -- Alternatively the Corsair specific build of the new Vyper could actually be a corsair prince riding a vyper, as they could in 2nd edition. It actually makes the most sense to me as to why there is a "corsair exclusive/specific build, as just an exclusive corsair vyper would just mean 2 vypers for Asuryani.. one with the Anrathe keyword.. its a bit unnecessary as any corsair detachment isnt going to be based on allowing only anrathe units ( there are simply too few ) I also think its possible then that building a regular vyper gives you the leftover corsair prince on foot profile. A lot of kits do this, or rather, did. ( though the last one doing that was as recent as the 9th editions orcs release.) I know a lot of people theorise and wishlist that the new dual build of the vyper is a 6 man transport, but apart from completely overhauling the vyper concept to accomodate that.. it feels like such a waste to me. The same codex already has the Venom and the Star weaver, just allow them to use one of those instead of adding a third same thing. Though I dont really see GW doing that. Lord Marshal, LSM and Spazmolytic 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387175-grotmas-calendar-2025/page/11/#findComment-6147700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marspeople Posted December 20, 2025 Share Posted December 20, 2025 I noticed that the Corsair Kill Team isn't being sold anymore. A reboxing coming before the Corsair mini dex announcement? Lord Marshal 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387175-grotmas-calendar-2025/page/11/#findComment-6147718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted December 20, 2025 Author Share Posted December 20, 2025 3 minutes ago, marspeople said: I noticed that the Corsair Kill Team isn't being sold anymore. A reboxing coming before the Corsair mini dex announcement? It's no longer tournament legal for KT, which is probably why it's vanished for now. I reckon any rebox will probably come along with the rest of the new Corsair stuff. irlLordy, Karhedron, Lathe Biosas and 2 others 2 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387175-grotmas-calendar-2025/page/11/#findComment-6147719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptix Posted December 20, 2025 Share Posted December 20, 2025 10 hours ago, TheMawr said: I also think its possible then that building a regular vyper gives you the leftover corsair prince on foot profile. A lot of kits do this, or rather, did There's a bunch of old world kits doing this as well I believe Lathe Biosas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387175-grotmas-calendar-2025/page/11/#findComment-6147720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Rawl Posted December 20, 2025 Share Posted December 20, 2025 If it is a Viper redo, I hope they bring back Nuadhu Fireheart as an option. The dude rode a Viper as a chariot. Bouargh, Karhedron, Magos Takatus and 1 other 1 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387175-grotmas-calendar-2025/page/11/#findComment-6147722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripper.McGuirl Posted December 20, 2025 Share Posted December 20, 2025 1 minute ago, Son of Rawl said: If it is a Viper redo, I hope they bring back Nuadhu Fireheart as an option. The dude rode a Viper as a chariot. Yeah he was rad. Also, riding a vyper like a chariot was just an option pirate characters could take in 2nd edition. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387175-grotmas-calendar-2025/page/11/#findComment-6147723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted December 20, 2025 Share Posted December 20, 2025 Today's contractual obligation is an AoS story about why you shouldn't have a real Tree for Christmas. Hint for tomorrow: Quote Next up on the Grotmas Calendar, we’re getting the unlock codes and heading down to the bunker for some new tactical missions. Seems fairly on the nose what that is. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387175-grotmas-calendar-2025/page/11/#findComment-6147724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 21, 2025 Share Posted December 21, 2025 Some more White Dwarf missions today. Definitely get the feeling that there's been some disruption then. Shame. Maybe next year will pick up? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387175-grotmas-calendar-2025/page/11/#findComment-6147774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassakov Posted December 21, 2025 Share Posted December 21, 2025 1 minute ago, Joe said: Some more White Dwarf missions today. Definitely get the feeling that there's been some disruption then. Shame. Maybe next year will pick up? Weird. Whilst the missions look kinda interesting for more casual play, and I don't really get WD these days so this is actually new for me, the fact that one of them is literally "December 2025" feels... both phoned in, and a bit insulting to those who bought the WD this month. Very, very strange. Assume the teams that worked on Grotmas in the past are stacked out with 11th and whatever else this time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387175-grotmas-calendar-2025/page/11/#findComment-6147775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
irlLordy Posted December 21, 2025 Share Posted December 21, 2025 Yawn. More rehashed WD content. I get that not everyone gets White Dwarf, but it is a bit feels bad to just get the same thing you've already seen if you do. Teaser tomorrow for an Armageddon short story perhaps? Tie in with potential upcoming focus there? skylerboodie 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387175-grotmas-calendar-2025/page/11/#findComment-6147780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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