Joe Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Now available on WarCom. firestorm40k and Karhedron 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387245-balance-dataslate-december-2025/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) Are my eyes deceiving me or did they (somewhat) buff TSons by letting our Demons get Cabal of Sorcerers? ETA: Also new Assault Terminators datasheet. Not entirely sure what's changed on it tho besides the model image. Edited 2 hours ago by Indy Techwisp Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387245-balance-dataslate-december-2025/#findComment-6146303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maschinenpriester Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago (edited) Interesting. How are Retributors worth 120 points? Is there some value here I am not seeing? Havocs in compatison cost 125 pt, have T5 and 2 Wounds. Edited 2 hours ago by Maschinenpriester Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387245-balance-dataslate-december-2025/#findComment-6146305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Maschinenpriester said: Interesting. How are Retributors worth 120 points? Is there some value here I am not seeing? Havocs in compatison cost 125 pt, have T5 and 2 Wounds. Paying the cost for 4 Heavy Meltas Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387245-balance-dataslate-december-2025/#findComment-6146306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 17 minutes ago, Indy Techwisp said: Are my eyes deceiving me or did they (somewhat) buff TSons by letting our Demons get Cabal of Sorcerers? Just checked the points, multiple units down in price as well (except Kairos and Lord of Change, which are up to match Daemons army). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387245-balance-dataslate-december-2025/#findComment-6146307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhavien Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 25 minutes ago, Indy Techwisp said: Are my eyes deceiving me or did they (somewhat) buff TSons by letting our Demons get Cabal of Sorcerers? ETA: Also new Assault Terminators datasheet. Not entirely sure what's changed on it tho besides the model image. As far as I could see Thunderhammer are now hitting on 3+ instead of 4+ and LCs got their attacks upped to 6 from 5. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387245-balance-dataslate-december-2025/#findComment-6146309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 28 minutes ago, Indy Techwisp said: Paying the cost for 4 Heavy Meltas The damage > survivability dynamic is out of whack as well, the 2w and t5 isn't as impressive or valuable as the unit/faction rules give. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387245-balance-dataslate-december-2025/#findComment-6146315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 12 minutes ago, Rhavien said: As far as I could see Thunderhammer are now hitting on 3+ instead of 4+ and LCs got their attacks upped to 6 from 5. I see. Wonder if the Deathwatch Terminators got their Thunder Hammers and Lightning Claws updated to match, or if that's something they need to wait until next year for... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387245-balance-dataslate-december-2025/#findComment-6146316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago My biggest takeaway from the article is that that I didn't realise how huge Corteaz is now compared to normal human sized models. What the hell have they been feeding him since his Daemonhunter boxset days? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387245-balance-dataslate-december-2025/#findComment-6146319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexus Infit Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Funny how they list lots of factions, even those that were unchanged, but Agents of the Imperium doesn’t even get a mention. Game experience for them is in a healthy place? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387245-balance-dataslate-december-2025/#findComment-6146321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Ferren Areios also has rules now. And they are great rules. Odd that he's a legends unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387245-balance-dataslate-december-2025/#findComment-6146322 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 9 minutes ago, Nexus Infit said: Funny how they list lots of factions, even those that were unchanged, but Agents of the Imperium doesn’t even get a mention. Game experience for them is in a healthy place? I just don't think GW wants to bother keeping up the act of pretending they're a 'real' faction. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387245-balance-dataslate-december-2025/#findComment-6146323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, Lord Marshal said: I just don't think GW wants to bother keeping up the act of pretending they're a 'real' faction. Imo Agents of the Imperiun should be split across existing factions. Order Malleus Inquisitors and themed units should be in the Grey Knights faction, as they were back in 5th. Order Hereticus agents and Inquisitors should be with the Sisters of Battle. Ordo Xenos should be part of the Deathwatch army. And the other Assasins and other agents should just be an option for all Imperium armies. Mogger351 and Emperor Ming 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387245-balance-dataslate-december-2025/#findComment-6146325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, Orange Knight said: Imo Agents of the Imperiun should be split across existing factions. Order Malleus Inquisitors and themed units should be in the Grey Knights faction, as they were back in 5th. Order Hereticus agents and Inquisitors should be with the Sisters of Battle. Ordo Xenos should be part of the Deathwatch army. And the other Assasins and other agents should just be an option for all Imperium armies. Exactly! then it would only take up a few pages and would be easier to provide updates 7 minutes ago, Lord Marshal said: I just don't think GW wants to bother keeping up the act of pretending they're a 'real' faction. Wonder f they will get a 11th dex or a pdf, like daemons Pdf would prob be better It might actually get an update Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387245-balance-dataslate-december-2025/#findComment-6146326 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Clausel Posted 31 minutes ago Share Posted 31 minutes ago Not too happy about the BT nerfs but then again some marine units got buffs so probably evens out for me. Got to try out new stuff! Better assault terminators is cool. Just a shame their new ability is still bad. Its better than before though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387245-balance-dataslate-december-2025/#findComment-6146328 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted 19 minutes ago Share Posted 19 minutes ago Knight despoilers got a 2 gun tax applied, so now has the wraithknight problem Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387245-balance-dataslate-december-2025/#findComment-6146329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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