TiguriusX Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Great faction update today!!! https://assets.warhammer-community.com/eng_10-12_wh40k_faction_pack_space_wolves-a4cmfwecry-2pqnq2mppi.pdf It is a SW version of Gladius We pick 1 of 3 hunting packs (i.e., doctrines) in the command phase 1-reroll advance/charge rolls 2-+1 to hit when shooting 3-Each time a unit is selected to fight pick one of lethal/sustain...all units get it and it can be mixed/matched!!! The detachment rule and stratagems provide almost all the tools needed to make our specific SW melee army work One of my major complaints is we are a "melee" army but most of our stuff is S5 which means we can't really hurt the big stuff -Solution We now have access to sustain or lethal hits on demand We can give a WGBL an enhancement to gain LANCE for his unit Another of my major complaints is we are a "melee" army on foot...slow melee is useless -Solution Stratagem to advance/charge with 1 unit now....we also have a stratagem to kool aid man through terrain Units led by a WGBL will have sustain + lethal and the ability to advance and charge With the new enhancement you can also get LANCE for a great death star unit This detachment isn't just for melee wolves The shooting buffs apply to all astartes units I'm sure we can whip up some crazy combos with a blanket +1 to hit and access to +1 to wound shooting with a stratagem My first thought is hello eradicators...+1 to hit and +1 to wound with their built in rerolls means fun times And finally...for the CREATIVE generals among us we get a KOOL AID man stratagem for mounted and walkers. The obvious usage is TWC...but we can do a wolf bot army and send dreadnoughts through walls as well (plus give them advance and charge) And last but not least...we have a REACTIVE MOVE...if you pair this with transports you can keep a melee unit alive by hopping in after you get shot This is a competitive and fun detachment I can't wait to dive into Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387247-saga-of-the-great-wolf-detachment-grotmas/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago GW really seem to have honed in on what makes a detachment competitive. This does look promising Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387247-saga-of-the-great-wolf-detachment-grotmas/#findComment-6146338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanPesci Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Yeah this is looking good from the first read through, as you say Tigurius, it really helps solve some of the main issues through having various tools on tap to use as and when you need it. The overall detachment rules aren't crazy strong (all 3 are nice though), but the strats and enhancements are where the meat is for me. WGBL fronting up 6 headtakers, with sustained, lethal, lance and adv+charge, potential charge + adv rerolls if in that doctrine, and potential precision/devs on top....is pretty damn nasty for around 250pts. The redeploy strat also lets us do some rather crazy stuff with Logan and units going into strat reserves. Deploying 30 terminators on the board, picking them up, and then them coming in T1, or free rapid ingressing with the new captain enhancement, is fun for all involved lol. Also, glad that they finally gave us a non-named terminator character option, even if I do really wish they had just added some caveats to existing datasheets (ie like it was in the index), rather than having to take this specific detachment to get a wolf lord in terminator armour. Is it as good as last years SW grotmas though..........hmmmmmmmmm (yes, yes it is) Also pts only came down for us whichc is nice: Bjorn dropped by 10 pts - excellent as he's already autoinclude for me for the CP Greys Hunters dropped by 15 pts - again great, deffo needed a reduction and I never play a game without them as it just feels wrong to me Ven Dread and Murderfang also down by 10. - Still dont like murderfangs new rules but ven dread is a potential shout for adding more charge ranges (esp as he can now burst through a wall) Ironpriest also dropped by 5 - Is ok, but would prefer a more expensive version with the old rule back, he just doesn't do much on most vehicles still. TiguriusX 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387247-saga-of-the-great-wolf-detachment-grotmas/#findComment-6146391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Clinto Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago I like the detachment; but it does kind of suck that we had to wait for a "Grotmas" detachment for Space Wolves to get access to "Armour of Contempt" though... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387247-saga-of-the-great-wolf-detachment-grotmas/#findComment-6146393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago I just noticed a major enhancement buff i missed originally The terminator captain can rapid ingress even if already used That means 2 units using rapid ingress in 1 turn Holy smokes i can see that being insanely good Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387247-saga-of-the-great-wolf-detachment-grotmas/#findComment-6146394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Dan Posted 24 minutes ago Share Posted 24 minutes ago 2 hours ago, TiguriusX said: I just noticed a major enhancement buff i missed originally The terminator captain can rapid ingress even if already used That means 2 units using rapid ingress in 1 turn Holy smokes i can see that being insanely good Grimnar’s Mark only works second battle round or later. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387247-saga-of-the-great-wolf-detachment-grotmas/#findComment-6146417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted 10 minutes ago Author Share Posted 10 minutes ago 13 minutes ago, Wolf Guard Dan said: Grimnar’s Mark only works second battle round or later. (2) rapid ingress units on a single turn...not on turn 1 =) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387247-saga-of-the-great-wolf-detachment-grotmas/#findComment-6146420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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