New Chaos Models

[Indy Techwisp]

Just now, phandaal said:

 

That whole exchange was even more amusing because Primaris Chaos Space Marines are explicitly a thing already, according to recent lore.

 

The Marines who fell to the Murder Curse must have had a Redemptor or two among their number, yeah?

 

All that arguing about how something cannot be, when GW themselves have already made it happen. 

 

Modern CSM with Primaris equipment certainly exist, it's just that due to the equipment used they'd likely be run on the tabletop using the normal LSM rules, same as for modern "Renegade-but-not-Chaos" Marines.

[Ahzek451]

20 minutes ago, Indy Techwisp said:

 

That would be more of an insult than TSons not getting a unique Dred at all.

In this case it will be a monster sized Tzaangor Giant 

[Indy Techwisp]

1 minute ago, Ahzek451 said:

In this case it will be a monster sized Tzaangor Giant 

 

That would make Disciples of Tzeentch happy at least.

[Mogger351]

1 hour ago, Indy Techwisp said:

 

That would make Disciples of Tzeentch happy at least.

Probably because it'd be a release for them with lazy 40k import rules a month later.

[phandaal]

1 hour ago, Indy Techwisp said:

 

Modern CSM with Primaris equipment certainly exist, it's just that due to the equipment used they'd likely be run on the tabletop using the normal LSM rules, same as for modern "Renegade-but-not-Chaos" Marines.

 

Primaris Marines affected by the Murder-Curse are explicitly mutated/warped into Chaos Space Marines, not Renegades.

[Robbienw]

2 hours ago, phandaal said:

 

That whole exchange was great because Primaris Chaos Space Marines are explicitly a thing already, according to recent lore.

 

The Marines who fell to the Murder Curse must have had a Redemptor or two among their number, yeah?

 

All that arguing about how something cannot be, when GW themselves have already made it happen. 

 

Haha, that's funny.  So I'm just asking for something that definitively exists in modern lore then.

 

From googling, the murder curse is in the Arks of Omen books, can't say I have read any of those.  Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

[Indy Techwisp]

1 hour ago, phandaal said:

Primaris Marines affected by the Murder-Curse are explicitly mutated/warped into Chaos Space Marines, not Renegades.

 

I am aware of that, hence why I had CSM and Renegade mentioned separately.

 

The Murder-Curse is kind of an edge case tho, considering it managed to turn not just Marines and Guard but also Sisters of Battle directly into Khorne Worshippers.

[Evil Eye]

I think if we were to get a new Chaos Dreadnought of equivalent size to the Contemptor or Leviathan, it would be good if it was designed to look like it was derived from the Contemptor (or Leviathan), using a lot of parts in common whilst other components were replaced, either for function, ritual or because original replacements are just unobtainable. Ideally it would be different enough to look distinctive (not just a Contemptor/Leviathan with spikes) but not so different that its ancestry is unrecognizable.

 

I'd say World Eaters, Emperor's Children and Thousand Sons would benefit from Contemptor derivatives whilst Death Guard could have a Leviathan descendent. World Eaters could have a sort of dark counterpart to that Blood Angels jump-Contemptor (I forget the name), with nasty close combat fists and a short-range jump pack. Emperor's Children get a sonic Dreadnought, no surprises there. Thousand Sons could either have an Osiron style psychic Dreadnought or alternatively a "Rubric Dreadnought"- armed with inferno bolt weapons, and with the spirit of a particularly angry Rubricae in its sarcophagus, it would be slow but very difficult to kill, just like its smaller brethren. Speaking of, the Death Guard could get a Leviathan descendent with hideous radiological, chemical and biological weaponry, and shrouded in a miasma of fumes billowing from its engines.

[Borbarad]

7 hours ago, Evil Eye said:

I think if we were to get a new Chaos Dreadnought of equivalent size to the Contemptor or Leviathan, it would be good if it was designed to look like it was derived from the Contemptor (or Leviathan), using a lot of parts in common whilst other components were replaced, either for function, ritual or because original replacements are just unobtainable. Ideally it would be different enough to look distinctive (not just a Contemptor/Leviathan with spikes) but not so different that its ancestry is unrecognizable.

 

Completely agree here. I really do hope at some point in the future, the Dino-bots will be relegated to an eventual Dark AdMech codex and we can enjoy some Heresy derived designs.

[Tastyfish]

World Eaters already have a massive stable of Daemon engines to port over from old epic. Feels a bit of a waste (and off-brand) for these Khorne worshippers to be maintaining the classic fighting life-support machine dreadnaughts, when instead they could be grinding over the battlefield with their Doomblasters, Tower of Skulls, Cauldrons of Blood and Brass Scorpions.

 

Filling out the range between a Jugganaut and a Lord of Skulls as far as the brass forged daemons go, whilst also adding a ton of firepower to World Eater armies.