40k New Huron Blackheart

[Marshal Mittens]

Helmet fixes the face. Lots of good options. If i had been half melted I would wear a helmet. 

[Mogger351]

2 minutes ago, Marshal Mittens said:

Helmet fixes the face. Lots of good options. If i had been half melted I would wear a helmet. 

He doesnt, because they don't fit well, as he has a deformed head now, as noted.

[Lay]

The the pelt, the ragged cape and the teeth make him look a bit like the Chaos Lord model from the original Dawn of War game.

[Borbarad]

Surprising to see people speaking so favourable about the old Huron miniature. I remember it being very poorly received across Warseer, DakkaDakka and this place back when it came out during 4th edition.  It was a generally terrible year for pewter miniatures - possessed, raptor lord, terminator sorcerer and huron didn't get any fans.

[Mogger351]

12 minutes ago, Borbarad said:

Surprising to see people speaking so favourable about the old Huron miniature. I remember it being very poorly received across Warseer, DakkaDakka and this place back when it came out during 4th edition.  It was a generally terrible year for pewter miniatures - possessed, raptor lord, terminator sorcerer and huron didn't get any fans.

Nostalgia is a hell of a drug

[Wispy]

4 hours ago, Borbarad said:

Surprising to see people speaking so favourable about the old Huron miniature. I remember it being very poorly received across Warseer, DakkaDakka and this place back when it came out during 4th edition.  It was a generally terrible year for pewter miniatures - possessed, raptor lord, terminator sorcerer and huron didn't get any fans.

40k fan communities reflexively decide to hate everything whether it deserves it or not and then after years pass familiarity breeds comfort.

 

we are not a particularly impartial fandom.

 

I don't doubt the next time this character is updated in 20 years people are going to be like "the face isn't melted enough."

Edited December 27, 2025 by Wispy

[Laurence]

7 hours ago, Marshal Mittens said:

Helmet fixes the face. Lots of good options. If i had been half melted I would wear a helmet. 

 

I suppose if he'd been wearing a helmet when he first got melta'd, he'd have the remains of it stuck to his face.

[crimsondave]

9 hours ago, Borbarad said:

Surprising to see people speaking so favourable about the old Huron miniature. I remember it being very poorly received across Warseer, DakkaDakka and this place back when it came out during 4th edition.  It was a generally terrible year for pewter miniatures - possessed, raptor lord, terminator sorcerer and huron didn't get any fans.

 

I'm not a fan of the new miniature but it's still better than the old one imo.

[FormelyKnownAsSmashyPants]

I like both the new and old versions of Huron. I love him as a character. If you're keen on reading some good fiction about Huron, I recommend the story, Into the Maelstrom, from the late 90's. The ending is horrifying and it broke my 15 year old brain. The story still holds up very well, and I am strongly inclined to go read it again.

[Cleon]

I'd have liked him to retain his lack of cape, as not having a cape is rare among heroes nowadays. The head could be a better sculpt but I see what they are going for and it could look better with a different painting approach.

[Laurence]

1 hour ago, Cleon said:

I'd have liked him to retain his lack of cape, as not having a cape is rare among heroes nowadays. The head could be a better sculpt but I see what they are going for and it could look better with a different painting approach.

Yeah, and changing his chainmail for cloth makes him less special as well, as it seems like almost everyone wears a tabard these days.  More chains and more cabling, that's what th new guy needs to be perfect.

[Azaiel]

I like the miniature, maybe not what I would have expected Huron to look, but still. The head is a bit cartoony but that could be the Eavy metal paintscheme doing its "magic".

The mini could be a good base for conversions though. Im sure we are going to see a grimdark-ified Huron soon after release.

The miniature reminds me of the official red corsair artwork with the dude with his helmet tucked under his arm and belt of skulls.

[Jukkiz]

The gauntlet also lost it´s looks and has been made for "easier conversions" 

That needs it´s iconic chaos star in the palm!!!  That´s the thing what has been bugging me also, sheesh!

The old one had Chaos star "carved" around the flamer palm nozzle, while new one is just generic powerfist webbing/rubber/undersuit looks!

Edited December 28, 2025 by Jukkiz

[Halandaar]

47 minutes ago, Jukkiz said:

The gauntlet also lost it´s looks and has been made for "easier conversions" 

That needs it´s iconic chaos star in the palm!!!  That´s the thing what has been bugging me also, sheesh!

The old one had Chaos star "carved" around the flamer palm nozzle, while new one is just generic powerfist webbing/rubber/undersuit looks!

 

Yeah, absolutely terrible that the new one looks like he might actually be able to flex it, instead of being stuck in a permanent high-five like the good old days.

[Joe]

Star is on the other side now anyway. The arm being way more mechanical is definitely the right choice.

 

[Jings]

4 hours ago, Jukkiz said:

The gauntlet also lost it´s looks and has been made for "easier conversions" 

That needs it´s iconic chaos star in the palm!!!  That´s the thing what has been bugging me also, sheesh!

The old one had Chaos star "carved" around the flamer palm nozzle, while new one is just generic powerfist webbing/rubber/undersuit looks!

 

Fair point, it does look worse. If I had to guess we can probably put this down to that level of detail being difficult to pull off in plastic when compared to metal/resin. 

[Gamiel]

Realy like how they did the grasping hand on his axe

[Blindhamster]

The claw actually makes sense now, soft armour on the inside for flexibility, it more feels like they’re trying to be consistent with claw/armour designs now and there’s a bit more aim for things to make sense. As others noted, the 8 pointed star is just on the other side now, so it’s not gone, just different.

 

the details are cleaner which is mostly just down to cad vs hand sculpting (some sculptors do better work by hand, such as Sam as was mentioned earlier, but not many).

 

the head is really my only issue with the new one, and that’s really just because it’s a bit too caricature for my liking, the details are good, the mouth is just too large imo.

 

can someone help me out on one thing? Why does Huron have 8 pointed stars at all? I thought the whole point was he isn’t devoted to chaos and is straight up your quintessential renegade that employs chaos forces but never swore to them? But I admit to being rusty at best on that element post badab.

[Marshal Reinhard]

I'm sorry, but I think that the old hand with the star has not aged well, it's way too rough and uneven. A lot of the original models details feel very rough and uneven like the star on the belt, the tubes, etc as well, This isn't meant to come off as a universal slam to the hand sculpting method either as there are other better aged examples out there (like, an obvious example close to my heart would be the previous emperor's champion model, that came out roughly the same time)

 

 

You can make the argument that you prefer hand sculpted models as much as you want, for whatever reasons you want. I also don't mean to make it sound like the old Huron is horrible either, he isn't. I just don't feel like he's the best shining example of the superiority of the hand sculpting method out there...

[Laurence]

10 minutes ago, Blindhamster said:

 

 

can someone help me out on one thing? Why does Huron have 8 pointed stars at all? I thought the whole point was he isn’t devoted to chaos and is straight up your quintessential renegade that employs chaos forces but never swore to them? But I admit to being rusty at best on that element post badab.

According to Lexicanium (so load up on salt) chapters 3-4 of Master of the Maelstrom desrcibe how Blackheart pays homage to the Ruinous Powers while not actually being a devotee.  I guess a Chaos star also looks like a cool 40k version of a skull and crossbones for a pirate lord.

[Joe]

It's homage in a loose sense. He doesn't quite follow them to the degree that Abaddon does, however his position as leader of the second largest force of Chaos Space Marines (and mortals) in the galaxy means he's in a very strong position to interfere with, or outright threaten, Abaddon's plans if he decided to. Hence the bribe of a Blackstone Fortress.

 

Honestly, it'd be interesting if in fifteen to twenty years time (yes, that's a ways off), Games Workshop decided to have Huron make a direct move against Abaddon. Something something "the Long War was lost before it began."

[Laurence]

They fight for dominance via an arm-wrestling duel.

[Lay]

1 hour ago, Blindhamster said:

can someone help me out on one thing? Why does Huron have 8 pointed stars at all? I thought the whole point was he isn’t devoted to chaos and is straight up your quintessential renegade that employs chaos forces but never swore to them? But I admit to being rusty at best on that element post badab.

 

Night Lords, Iron Warriors and Alpha Legion aren't super devout either and they sport the same look, so it's first and foremost a design choice so you know what army he belongs to. But from a lore perspective, it's probably better to be in the Chaos gods' good graces when you live in a giant warp storm. You know, beseech the gods that the warp tides don't scatter or swallow half of your fleet on its way to a raid. 

[calgar101]

Loyalist Huron model is the best version of him but i think his newer Chaos model is pretty decent. 

[HeadlessCross]

10 minutes ago, calgar101 said:

Loyalist Huron model is the best version

All the FW Marine characters were fantastic and deserve an update.