Jukkiz Posted Thursday at 07:21 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:21 PM (edited) Anyways, it´s good-ish update, just feels tad... Too close to generic chaos marines? Too clean as i said. Maybe Cad sculpting was mistake afterall and GW should start getting back to og ideas Edited Thursday at 07:22 PM by Jukkiz Petitioner's City, Avf, phandaal and 4 others 3 1 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387305-new-huron-blackheart/page/3/#findComment-6148274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted Thursday at 07:29 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:29 PM Looks fine-ish? 7 minutes ago, Jukkiz said: Maybe Cad sculpting was mistake afterall and GW should start getting back to og ideas Yeah. phandaal 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387305-new-huron-blackheart/page/3/#findComment-6148276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted Thursday at 07:35 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:35 PM (edited) On 12/25/2025 at 1:08 PM, Doghouse said: The face is too cartoony and I don't like the pose at all, he just looks like a generic chaos warlord. I would have much preferred something like this artwork. Man, this pic is so much better than the new sculpt. New one almost looks like an AoS mini that got repurposed for 40k. He looks like he is trying too hard to be a centerpiece miniature. Does he really need to be up on his lil tippy toe to get onto the tactical rock? Also, the face is ridiculous. If anyone disagrees, they can hit the grey minus sign to show they have the wrong opinion. Edit: sometimes it really is too easy to push people's buttons. Or in this case, get them to push a button. Edited Friday at 07:29 PM by phandaal Should we use this power for good? skylerboodie, bloodhound23, BassWave and 18 others 2 14 3 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387305-new-huron-blackheart/page/3/#findComment-6148277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinespider Posted Thursday at 07:38 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:38 PM (edited) 17 minutes ago, Jukkiz said: Anyways, it´s good-ish update, just feels tad... Too close to generic chaos marines? Too clean as i said. Maybe Cad sculpting was mistake afterall and GW should start getting back to og ideas These are great pictures, but I don't understand the leap you're making by suggesting that ditching CAD would somehow make the model look more like this. The model looks how GW wants it to look. Whether they used a computer to get there or not isn't really relevant. Edited Thursday at 07:38 PM by Shinespider ursvamp, Laurence, skylerboodie and 1 other 3 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387305-new-huron-blackheart/page/3/#findComment-6148278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitnam Posted Thursday at 07:41 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:41 PM 5 minutes ago, phandaal said: Also, the face is ridiculous. If anyone disagrees, they can hit the grey minus sign to show they have the RIGHT opinion. Fixed that for you Ahzek451, Dezron, MasterBlaster and 5 others 4 1 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387305-new-huron-blackheart/page/3/#findComment-6148279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Eye Posted Thursday at 07:43 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:43 PM I actually reckon it might be easier to transplant new legs from a bigger, more modern CSM onto the OG miniature than to make this one look right. Might be worth picking up a resin "reproduction" just so you don't end up ruining an original metal one if it goes wrong (and also resin is easier to cut up) but still. And yeah, honestly there's all manner of poses they could have drawn from if they didn't want to just upscale the old miniature. This one for instance: (Side note, does anyone know who drew/painted this?) roryokane and phandaal 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387305-new-huron-blackheart/page/3/#findComment-6148280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted Thursday at 07:44 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:44 PM 23 minutes ago, Jukkiz said: Maybe Cad sculpting was mistake afterall and GW should start getting back to og ideas Stay tuned for this as well as other amazing stories on this week's ":cuss: that aint happening" Wispy, DemonGSides, skylerboodie and 1 other 1 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387305-new-huron-blackheart/page/3/#findComment-6148281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted Thursday at 07:45 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:45 PM 5 minutes ago, Shinespider said: These are great pictures, but I don't understand the leap you're making by suggesting that ditching CAD would somehow make the model look more like this. The model looks how GW wants it to look. Whether they used a computer to get there or not isn't really relevant. The difference between hand sculpted and CAD, is the prior Lemartes vs the current one. Spoiler: The prior Lemartes is a work of art. HUDCommander 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387305-new-huron-blackheart/page/3/#findComment-6148282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephaston Posted Thursday at 07:46 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:46 PM Also it is promotional material painted by 'eavy metal, It's gonna be a clean paintjob that shows off all the details, and once the mini is in people hands and properly grimed up we can all comment on how good he suddenly looks when properly dirtied up. Just like the last handful of times a model looked too clean. Mmmmm Napalm, DemonGSides, Dezron and 1 other 1 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387305-new-huron-blackheart/page/3/#findComment-6148284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uprising Posted Thursday at 07:49 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:49 PM (edited) They butchered my favorite character in Warhammer 40k. I am so disappointed. I pray to the dark gods, there is a helmet / different heads (which is unlikely due to lore) like Abdadon has. Fine, I will have to fix it myself. Either I will use a few of my older huron models (GW and Forgeworld), chop up, and sculpt what I want. OR I will make something on blender and give it away for free. The pose need works too. At least Hamadrya looks great. Edited Thursday at 07:59 PM by Uprising Added the, "I will do it myself" Castellan Wulfrik, MoriyaSchism, Lathe Biosas and 4 others 1 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387305-new-huron-blackheart/page/3/#findComment-6148285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted Thursday at 07:52 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:52 PM 3 minutes ago, Scribe said: The difference between hand sculpted and CAD, is the prior Lemartes vs the current one. Spoiler: The prior Lemartes is a work of art. ? (and yes I do know you mean the other previous lemartes, I'm just reminiscing of where we really came from) Arakanii, DemonGSides, skylerboodie and 9 others 1 9 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387305-new-huron-blackheart/page/3/#findComment-6148286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitnam Posted Thursday at 08:04 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:04 PM 15 minutes ago, Scribe said: The difference between hand sculpted and CAD, is the prior Lemartes vs the current one. Spoiler: The prior Lemartes is a work of art. I think execution matters far more then design method. Old Lemartes was great (I like the new one too). Old Lucius? Eh not so much Marshal Reinhard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387305-new-huron-blackheart/page/3/#findComment-6148287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted Thursday at 08:15 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:15 PM His belt reminds me of a wrestlers belt. A few Csm have them but the only loyalists I can think of with them are Space Wolves Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387305-new-huron-blackheart/page/3/#findComment-6148288 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevolutionByNight Posted Thursday at 08:24 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:24 PM (edited) For me the face is just way too cartoony. The way it rounds out in the jaw as well as it's shape in general reminds me of the Iron Giant or Glitch from Metal Arms Glitch in the System. The flesh parts aren't bad it's just the way they are framed over the metal and how the metal pieces are positioned. Edited Thursday at 08:38 PM by TheRevolutionByNight Arakanii, phandaal, Doghouse and 3 others 1 1 1 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387305-new-huron-blackheart/page/3/#findComment-6148290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slaanbull Posted Thursday at 08:28 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:28 PM Also not a fan of the big belt, it’s also too bad that he looks like an ork! With the belt and cape the figure could be repurposed as Abaddon in power armour. I’m probably part of the choir that wishes he’d be a bit more akin to his older artworks, a slimmer revenant silhouette? This guy almost lost his life and was saved partly by the mechanical cybernetics and partly by demonic forces, with a dash of pure hatred and conviction. It should look like he’s held together by the metal bits, not like he’s a robot with latex skin. Why is the atomizer part of the Tyrants Claw placed before the nozzle? Does that make sense? I get having a visual language to convey “torrent/flamer weapon”, but that bothers me a bit and is like placing a casing ejector behind where the shells are fed into a chamber. I like that he is large and dominating, as Huron Blackheart should be! And that the Hamadrya is a part of the model now. One thing I like about the model ‘remakes’ is also when they keep the trophies and doodads, cool backpack! Arakanii 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387305-new-huron-blackheart/page/3/#findComment-6148291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadlessCross Posted Thursday at 08:32 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:32 PM 56 minutes ago, phandaal said: Man, this pic is so much better than the new sculpt. New one almost looks like an AoS mini that got repurposed for 40k. He looks like he is trying too hard to be a centerpiece miniature. Does he really need to be up on his lil tippy toe to get onto the tactical rock? Also, the face is ridiculous. If anyone disagrees, they can hit the grey minus sign to show they have the wrong opinion. Half his face got blown up. It stands to reason that prior incarnations did not properly reflect that. Hell, I'm willing to bet the only reason he looks like he's smiling is because of the paint job making it look like that. It'll make more sense with someone not doing the boring GW "clean" paint job. DemonGSides, Mogger351 and HolyPestilience 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387305-new-huron-blackheart/page/3/#findComment-6148293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttoVonAwesome Posted Thursday at 08:36 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:36 PM I think his face is actually alot closer to his FW version. Magnificent chin. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387305-new-huron-blackheart/page/3/#findComment-6148294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted Thursday at 08:38 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:38 PM I love the cycle we seem to have where people spend ages complaining about an old mini that "is ugly" and "needs updating" but as soon as GW update the model to modern standards it's suddenly awful, ruined, a huge downgrade and an affront to god because it isn't an exact 1-1 of the old design but slightly larger. ursvamp, Ming the Merciless, Dezron and 8 others 9 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387305-new-huron-blackheart/page/3/#findComment-6148295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted Thursday at 08:44 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:44 PM 5 minutes ago, Indy Techwisp said: I love the cycle we seem to have where people spend ages complaining about an old mini that "is ugly" and "needs updating" but as soon as GW update the model to modern standards it's suddenly awful, ruined, a huge downgrade and an affront to god because it isn't an exact 1-1 of the old design but slightly larger. To be fair, I believe only the modern Lemartes, and Lelith, are an actual affront to God. LemartesTheLost, DemonGSides, skylerboodie and 1 other 2 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387305-new-huron-blackheart/page/3/#findComment-6148296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Dan Posted Thursday at 08:45 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:45 PM Really like the model minus the face. It may just be the paint job accentuating the more cartoonish aspects of it, I think @Lord Abaia had the right take on what to do with the paint job to make it look better. Lathe Biosas and HolyPestilience 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387305-new-huron-blackheart/page/3/#findComment-6148297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephaston Posted Thursday at 08:47 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:47 PM 5 minutes ago, HeadlessCross said: Half his face got blown up. It stands to reason that prior incarnations did not properly reflect that. We can also handwave it as his previous incarnations and artworks being at a point where he still had enough skin to stretch over the metal half, but over time it sloughed off more and more, Minicompare also updated; he's a big boy DemonGSides, skylerboodie and HolyPestilience 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387305-new-huron-blackheart/page/3/#findComment-6148298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted Thursday at 08:49 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:49 PM 1 minute ago, Nephaston said: We can also handwave it as his previous incarnations and artworks being at a point where he still had enough skin to stretch over the metal half, but over time it sloughed off more and more, Minicompare also updated; he's a big boy That looks...massive? Should PA really being that freaking big? I mean scale creep just seems out of control, especially considering its all CAD now... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387305-new-huron-blackheart/page/3/#findComment-6148299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted Thursday at 08:57 PM Share Posted Thursday at 08:57 PM It's been CAD for a while tho, that's not really new or novel. He's been upscaled to modern "accurate firstborn" scale like every new Chaos Marine model we've gotten since the start of 8th so of course he's going to Dwarf the old out-of-scale metal version. He's also standing on a rock with neither foot actually on the floor, which makes him artificially taller still. Joe, Lathe Biosas and sitnam 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387305-new-huron-blackheart/page/3/#findComment-6148300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyDreadnought Posted Thursday at 09:06 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:06 PM Head is just terrible. Pose feels generic, like we've seen that pose before across dozens of minis already. I mean I'll probably get him but that head is coming off asap, as is the axe. My Iron Warriors will be abusing his rules because until they give me a character for my legion all other characters are for my legion. phandaal, Lathe Biosas, TheRevolutionByNight and 1 other 1 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387305-new-huron-blackheart/page/3/#findComment-6148302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukkiz Posted Thursday at 09:15 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:15 PM It do be like that I think the leather crothcloth should´ve been chainmail like in original. The fur over the shoulders is tad much and cape is nothingburger. Knowing GW it´s mandatory. Xirix, HolyPestilience, painting.for.my.sanity and 7 others 10 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/387305-new-huron-blackheart/page/3/#findComment-6148307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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