Death means nothing

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

GW recently announced that dead characters will be returning soon.

 

so death means nothing, money is the real god emperor, what can we expect for the near future revivals as well as distant future revivals?

 

near future- yarrick almost certainly. Maybe tycho in some form?

 

distant future- all of the primarchs and I do mean all of them.

[Zoatibix]

I really dislike this in comics, 40k, MCU, Dr Who, etc etc but it seems to be the way.

'Oh, the character meant to sacrifice themselves...' does cheapen it for me as a viewer bidding them farewell.

 

But they want to reboot franchises / miniatures so I don't think it's going to go away, unfortunately.

 

[Scribe]

26 minutes ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

distant future- all of the primarchs and I do mean all of them.

 

At this point, and really its already the way it is since 8th, the game/setting/whatever, is in terminal decline.

 

Either they betray the setting's core principles, that have been there for decades, or the idea of a meta plot is just a joke (and it is a joke) and its pointless anyway.

 

If they return Ferrus, or Sanguinius, I do not care in which or what form, they have crossed the event horizon.

 

Not that it matters, the game is dire now anyway.

 

Great models though!

[Deus_Ex_Machina]

57 minutes ago, Zoatibix said:

I really dislike this in comics, 40k, MCU, Dr Who, etc etc but it seems to be the way.

'Oh, the character meant to sacrifice themselves...' does cheapen it for me as a viewer bidding them farewell.

 

But they want to reboot franchises / miniatures so I don't think it's going to go away, unfortunately.

 

Don´t they normally reboot a comic universe? They start from scratch and then have all characters available again.

Edited December 31, 2025 by Deus_Ex_Machina

[SvenIronhand]

They should have stuck to their guns with Yarrick.

Just now, Deus_Ex_Machina said:

Don´t they normally reboot a comic universe? They start from scratch again and then have all characters available again.

Marvel has never rebooted, famously.

[mini_painting_mike]

1 hour ago, Scribe said:

 

At this point, and really its already the way it is since 8th, the game/setting/whatever, is in terminal decline.

 

Either they betray the setting's core principles, that have been there for decades, or the idea of a meta plot is just a joke (and it is a joke) and its pointless anyway.

 

If they return Ferrus, or Sanguinius, I do not care in which or what form, they have crossed the event horizon.

 

Not that it matters, the game is dire now anyway.

 

Great models though!

I think this is really very overly-pessimistic. The story has progressed but hasn't confounded... yet. Hopefully it doesn't.

 

We haven't seen any 'truly dead' characters be 'less dead' yet, and may not.

[Lathe Biosas]

18 minutes ago, Deus_Ex_Machina said:

Don´t they normally reboot a comic universe? They start from scratch and then have all characters available again.

 

Yes, Marvel and DC are famous for flipping the reset switch.

 

They do it to reset convoluted storylines and bring in new readers.

[Deus_Ex_Machina]

9 minutes ago, Lathe Biosas said:

 

Yes, Marvel and DC are famous for flipping the reset switch.

 

They do it to reset convoluted storylines and bring in new readers.

Maybe GW should do the same. And before everybody brings torches & pitchforks: GW is doing it already because we are going to have the FOURTH war for Armageddon in 2026. This is why Yarrick needs to be brought back. You would have gotten the same result, if GW would have reset the 40K universe with each edition change. And yes, the 40K universe had other conflicts but apparently GW themselves are not very fond of them because otherwise they would have rebooted them as well as they have done with the Armageddon conflict.

[Scribe]

30 minutes ago, Deus_Ex_Machina said:

Maybe GW should do the same. And before everybody brings torches & pitchforks: GW is doing it already because we are going to have the FOURTH war for Armageddon in 2026. This is why Yarrick needs to be brought back. You would have gotten the same result, if GW would have reset the 40K universe with each edition change. And yes, the 40K universe had other conflicts but apparently GW themselves are not very fond of them because otherwise they would have rebooted them as well as they have done with the Armageddon conflict.

 

On the one hand? Ugh. Do we need this?

 

On the other hand? Its a perfect example of 40K. Nothing changes. Nothing will change. Nothing can change. The Eternal War will continue, forever.

[Zoatibix]

1 hour ago, Deus_Ex_Machina said:

Don´t they normally reboot a comic universe? They start from scratch and then have all characters available again.

Doctor Who has had a character die or sacrifice themselves…then just kinda resurrected them through various shenanigans because the character / actor was so loved by the fans.

[SvenIronhand]

You know what 40K needs? KALPAS.

[Scribe]

7 minutes ago, SvenIronhand said:

You know what 40K needs? KALPAS.

 

I mean what it really needs, is for GW/BL to take their damn hands off, stop pretending its a meta plot, and let authors dig in and actually INSPIRE the hobby.

 

"You know that Soul Hunter trilogy? You too could create your own band of warriors, and play out their battles, their glorious wins, and horrific defeats!"

[Firepower]

I for one quite like the mental image of Adeptus Biologus Miracle Max gallivanting around the galaxy and distributing chocolate coated retcons on a whim.

[phandaal]

4 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

GW recently announced that dead characters will be returning soon.

 

so death means nothing, money is the real god emperor, what can we expect for the near future revivals as well as distant future revivals?

 

near future- yarrick almost certainly. Maybe tycho in some form?

 

distant future- all of the primarchs and I do mean all of them.

 

Agree with you 100%, but hasn't it been this way for years now? Characters vanish in random lore snippets, units vanish and then reappear (models removed before a refresh), units appear and then vanish (Leviathan dreads anyone?), all in service of some internal sales/release plan at GW.

 

It is all so blatantly driven by factors outside of what makes sense for the lore nowadays. Yarrick will come back with some kind of bull:cuss: hand-waving, or maybe it will be his long-lost daughter Yarricka.

 

Ironically, I am coming to realize that despite my general dislike of many of GW's recent activities, I keep up with the lore much more closely than people who tend to defend new developments. Maybe the secret is that more uncritical you are and the less you keep up with the lore, the less it will bother you.

 

"Don't ask questions! Just consume Product and then get excited for Next Product!"

[Emperor Ming]

The power of capitalism can revive anyone

 

Happy new year all

 

[Doghouse]

Was Yarrick confirmed dead? I gave up following 40k lore after Guilliman returned so a genuine question on my part. I did see a picture of a skull with a bionic eye and a Commissar hat.

 

I do hope they bring the model back as it would be great for 3rd war of Armageddon just as long as they don't do anything weird to him.

 

 

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

3 hours ago, mini_painting_mike said:

I think this is really very overly-pessimistic. The story has progressed but hasn't confounded... yet. Hopefully it doesn't.

 

We haven't seen any 'truly dead' characters be 'less dead' yet, and may not.

I mean sort of we have. 
Dorn’s body used to be held by the IF all but one of his hands, now that’s been retconned to they have just his hand…

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

1 minute ago, Doghouse said:

Was Yarrick confirmed dead? I gave up following 40k lore after Guilliman returned so a genuine question on my part. I did see a picture of a skull with a bionic eye and a Commissar hat.

 

I do hope they bring the model back as it would be great for 3rd war of Armageddon just as long as they don't do anything weird to him.

 

 

Pretty sure the IG codex has said he died. I’d have to double check though 

[Kommisar_K]

It's like a standing thing in-universe that the Imperium can't figure out if Yarrick is dead. Realistically, by now he'd be an IG dreadnought, but hey, the Warp explains everything. Personally, I'm not bothered by the thought of Yarrick returning. 

 

There are, certainly, people better left dead. Certain Primarchs, for example. Touch Sanguinius, you ruin the best character arc of all 40K. 

[Lord_Ikka]

8 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

GW recently announced that dead characters will be returning soon.

Where was this stated? I've been on holiday-mode for the last week or so and haven't been up to my usual skimming of hobby news?

[Grotsmasha]

What If?  The Orks collective belief in Yarrick's "he can't be killed" has made him a Living Saint?

[GSCUprising]

4 minutes ago, Grotsmasha said:

What If?  The Orks collective belief in Yarrick's "he can't be killed" has made him a Living Saint?

Now this would be quite funny.

[Alby the Slayer]

I too created a topic about it to hear what most of us think about this "no one is really dead" thing and I think most us don't want to see this.

 

But who knows?

 

In my projects I always read and use the current/corrects events as background to my works and try not to create something apocryphal. The lore is so vast and wonderful.

But if the capitalism factor will force even more undeaths, or retcons just for the money, I will abbandon what the lore will be and just do my thing.

 

It's not such a big deal and of course it's a matter of opinions but it's a shame to see ruin such great lore with some marvel/multiverse/he-was-death-but-really-no shenanigans.

 

The general lore will be ruined by this, diminished by this and you can't change my mind about that.

[Bouargh]

4 hours ago, Grotsmasha said:

What If?  The Orks collective belief in Yarrick's "he can't be killed" has made him a Living Saint?

Yarrick is the new Alan Quatermain : an work Weirdboy doomeed him do that he will die on Armaggeddon

 

 

I wonder if a new special character will be introduced for featuring S Stone? (Does S stands for sergent)?

[calgar101]

Unfortunately a lot of lore decisions are based on commercial decisions. Yarrick is massively popular and so bringing him back will be a sales boost. The unreliable narrator and how a lot of characters/plots can be left open is a way around this and so how these things can be done.

I'm not fully up to date with what happened to Yarrick but if it's not conclusively written he died then well it leaves the door open for his return. Written well, could work out well.

 

Obviously those such as Ferrus, Sanguinius should not be brought back but however the whole warp power/Emperor, means there is a mechanism for their revival.

So I think we will see some of this happening, the mertis of that is to be seen.