Iron Warriors 40k teaser

[Xenith]

3 hours ago, marspeople said:

I wonder if a new Defiler / Soul Grinder could be a dual kit.

 

it would make a lot of sense! 

[Redcomet]

Plot twist. The Defiler/Soulgrinder kit are all alternate build options to the Pert kit

[ZeroWolf]

17 hours ago, The Praetorian of Inwit said:

I can see Perturabo and down the line Lorgar getting releases without IW and WB getting, or needing their own codex. Ultramarines got Guilliman back and he is part of the vanilla space marine codex. 

 

I don't think he is in this teaser though. Mutilators, upgrade sprue, character and Defiler though, that seems a safe bet. 

 

If there is some sort of bundle box alongside I wonder what it will be? 

Worth pointing out that Roboute is the only vanilla primarch back so far (vanilla in the sense of not being a divergent chapter like BA or DA). We'd need them to bring back Crovax, jagatai, Vulkan or Dorn to see if GW want that many primarchs in one codex. Chaos will, however, get into situation first as theres only undivided primarchs left now. I can easily see GW spinning them out to their books to give them better fitting army wide rules instead of whatever Dark Pact becomes in 11th edition (and beyond). It'd also allow GW to see you even more models without turning the csm book into something as bad as the loyalist book.

 

Of course, if they are to release a IW codex, I suspect a small tease of it when the Eye of Terror book gets released.

[Orange Knight]

Will GW release multiple Primarchs for one faction, or will they seperate the sub factions into their own books?

Iron Warriors could become their own seperate Legion, like EC, DG, TS before them.

I don't know if it's a good idea to keep segregating these factions when the model lines are so limited. The 4 existent mono God books need more units, imo.

[The Praetorian of Inwit]

Perhaps not separate factions, but the likes of the Iron Warriors could get a supplement in the future perhaps. 

[Ahzek451]

Naturally, one can't help but dig deep into what little we have to work with, but just looking at the supposed defiler claw Pic, im focusing on the details. 

 

The trim has a certain flow to it, with the 3 rings, it does look like it might be a mix of all gods asthetic. To me at least, it is subtlety different from previous chaos undivided trim. In the sense that the kit could truly be designed for all legions. Parts in the box that will help align with any god. I hope this is true. Im not a fan of all legions sharing all daemon engines, but if one did...it would be the defiler. 

 

Also, the limbs look less bulky, maybe a thinner/smaller build. Does look mounted on a base. 

[Nephaston]

4 hours ago, ZeroWolf said:

Worth pointing out that Roboute is the only vanilla primarch back so far (vanilla in the sense of not being a divergent chapter like BA or DA). We'd need them to bring back Crovax, jagatai, Vulkan or Dorn to see if GW want that many primarchs in one codex. Chaos will, however, get into situation first as theres only undivided primarchs left now. I can easily see GW spinning them out to their books to give them better fitting army wide rules instead of whatever Dark Pact becomes in 11th edition (and beyond). It'd also allow GW to see you even more models without turning the csm book into something as bad as the loyalist book.

 

Of course, if they are to release a IW codex, I suspect a small tease of it when the Eye of Terror book gets released.

 

Vanilla Space Marines do have the rule of no chapter mixing at baseline, so having multiple primarchs there would already have a barrier to any shenanigans.

They'd just need to adopt a similar rule for CSM once they get the undivided daemon primarchs going to prevent primarch monster mashes.

[LSM]

9 hours ago, marspeople said:

I wonder if a new Defiler / Soul Grinder could be a dual kit.

 

I'm not sure if it hurts or helps the argument, but in 4th edition AoS the Soul Grinder has been shuffled off to Legends.

 

With there being no planned Codex: Chaos Daemons we could just see the Soul Grinder gone from 40k, or amalgamated into the Defiler concept (such that the new Defiler is more fleshy/overtly daemonic than the old one).

[Nephaston]

49 minutes ago, LSM said:

With there being no planned Codex: Chaos Daemons we could just see the Soul Grinder gone from 40k, or amalgamated into the Defiler concept (such that the new Defiler is more fleshy/overtly daemonic than the old one).

 

Which would be hilarious, as the most recent Guy Haley book;

Spoiler

mobilizes a force of 1/10th of 1/10th of 1/100th of specifically all Soul Grinders under the command of Vashtorr, and even has a Soul Grinder Daemon Prince

 

Perfect time to mothball and remove them from every game. Would be a marvelous gambit on geedubs end.

[DeadFingers]

3 hours ago, LSM said:

 

I'm not sure if it hurts or helps the argument, but in 4th edition AoS the Soul Grinder has been shuffled off to Legends.

 

With there being no planned Codex: Chaos Daemons we could just see the Soul Grinder gone from 40k, or amalgamated into the Defiler concept (such that the new Defiler is more fleshy/overtly daemonic than the old one).

The Legends-ing of the Soul Grinder in AoS is one of the things that, to me, pointed towards the Defiler getting an update soon. The fewer books that depend on the kit, the easier it is to rip off the bandage and update the Defiler without the Soul Grinder.

 

Now, as you say, the question is if the concept of the Soul Grinder will be entirely gone, or meshed into the Defiler's new identity.

 

Though a third option I like to ponder is, precisely because of the very recent bit about Vashtorr using them posted above, if the concept of the Soul Grinder will eventually become its own thing, free from its dependence on the Defiler. There are various rumours concerning Vashtorr getting his own units, or cyberdaemons becoming a thing, or DarkMech becoming a thing, it's all rather messy and confusing. But with so many different hands pointing towards a common theme, even if they differ on the details, I feel like there may be a truth hidden in there. So maybe we'll see the Soul Grinder return yet, independent from the Defiler and AoS.

[Jukkiz]

Daemon engines have curved armor, Demondino for example

[Fluxeor]

5 hours ago, Jukkiz said:

Daemon engines have curved armor, Demondino for example

What a rugpull it would be if we actually just got a rehashed Dinofiend.

[Craig]

Haven't seen anyone suggest they may be Iron Circle automata for Iron Warriors specific units. I know it's unlikely if they are to sit in a CSM codex as a faction locked non-character unit but worth considering if they are pushing Iron Warriors.

[ZeroWolf]

17 minutes ago, Craig said:

Haven't seen anyone suggest they may be Iron Circle automata for Iron Warriors specific units. I know it's unlikely if they are to sit in a CSM codex as a faction locked non-character unit but worth considering if they are pushing Iron Warriors.

It's possible, but they may save them for a hypothetical Codex: IW that could drop in 11th if GW want to keep the trend going.

[Xenith]

15 hours ago, DeadFingers said:

The Legends-ing of the Soul Grinder in AoS is one of the things that, to me, pointed towards the Defiler getting an update soon. The fewer books that depend on the kit, the easier it is to rip off the bandage and update the Defiler without the Soul Grinder.

 

 

Indeed, we saw this in heresy that many characters went to legends until they got updated/new models and then brought back. 

[Indy Techwisp]

I hope that if this does turn out to be a Soulgrinder/Defiler dual kit that the basic Defiled hasn't suddenly also become a big Flesh monster and instead remains more "clean" with just the Daemonic head at the top.

 

Also this being a dual kit would easily explain why it has "cult options" with those just being different God Specifc bits like the new Daemon Prince.

[LSM]

1 hour ago, Xenith said:

 

Indeed, we saw this in heresy that many characters went to legends until they got updated/new models and then brought back. 

 

While the Soul Grinder could come back for AoS, I think it being a duel kit with a Defiler (which I don't think Slaves to Darkness players would get access to) would be a bit weird. Especially with the greater "no sharing" policy between games.

 

(Then again, the Thousans Sons' Mutalith Vortex Beast is a duel kit with a Slaughterbrute that they can't take, and the Emperor's Children's Maulerfiend is a dual kit with a Forgefiend that they can't take.)

[Craig]

2 minutes ago, LSM said:

 

While the Soul Grinder could come back for AoS, I think it being a duel kit with a Defiler (which I don't think Slaves to Darkness players would get access to) would be a bit weird. Especially with the greater "no sharing" policy between games.

 

(Then again, the Thousans Sons' Mutalith Vortex Beast is a duel kit with a Slaughterbrute that they can't take, and the Emperor's Children's Maulerfiend is a dual kit with a Forgefiend that they can't take.)

The new Daemon prince has build options for Sigmar and 40k.

[Indy Techwisp]

2 hours ago, LSM said:

 

While the Soul Grinder could come back for AoS, I think it being a duel kit with a Defiler (which I don't think Slaves to Darkness players would get access to) would be a bit weird. Especially with the greater "no sharing" policy between games.

 

(Then again, the Thousans Sons' Mutalith Vortex Beast is a duel kit with a Slaughterbrute that they can't take, and the Emperor's Children's Maulerfiend is a dual kit with a Forgefiend that they can't take.)

 

If 11th doesn't give World Eaters access to the Slaughterbrute I will be slightly annoyed on their behalf.

[Paturabo]

I know a few people think the boxy bit in the lower right of this preview image looks like the head of a hammer (presumably carried by a certain Primarch).

 

 

 

But to me it looks a lot like the power pack for a lascannon. A box with two triangles and a round nub in one corner, highlighted in blue. I also highlighted in yellow what I  think is the rest of this weapon but that part of the image is much more difficult make out.

 

In conclusion, if this image is part of a Defiler I believe we are looking at the smoke stacks coming off the back of the "torso" and the gun-arm equipped with a twin-lascannon. 

[Antarius]

20 hours ago, Craig said:

The new Daemon prince has build options for Sigmar and 40k.

Doesn’t Tzaangor have a dual kit as well, with build options for chainswords and autopistols? Or are they packaged with the 40k kit only?

[Arkley]

On 1/18/2026 at 11:39 AM, Redcomet said:

Plot twist. The Defiler/Soulgrinder kit are all alternate build options to the Pert kit

 

If we get something like this it would be a instant buy.

[Wibbling]

The Soul Grinder got me collecting Daemons back in 5th edition. If Workshop make that (Perturabo image) as a model.... I'll need a bit of a lie down. It's amazing! Potty! Completely bonkers and absolutely glorious.