How would you prefer new ranges/refreshes be done?

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

I mentioned in the voidscarred thread in the news section I like the new Corsair models including the starfang, but would have preferred a venom like transport.

 

and I definitely would have preferred said transport over yriel, and a generic HQ over the named psyker.

 

i think epic hero characters should be towards the end of a refresh or new range release cycle. After all the new new models will generally have people hyped, regardless of if there’s epic heroes or not, and you can use those heroes to keep hype up until the end of the over all release cycle.

 

for the eldar Corsairs as an example now if I don’t want an epic hero HQ it seems I will have only 2 or 3 options.(maybe I’m wrong and generic warlocks or whatever can lead them. Don’t have the eldar codex so not 100%)

Edited January 17 by Inquisitor_Lensoven

[Frogian]

Especially for small subfractions like this, the named characters should have alternative builds for generic ones (like the main Votann Khal does). Hopefully at least the void dreamer does, but yeah it is a bit silly there isn't just a captain for them. 

[Karhedron]

I agree on the named/generic character thing. I think that GW missed a golden opportunity not to produce Corbulo as well as the Generic Sanguinary Priest for the Blood Angels. The alternate build practically IS Corbulo just in white armour!

 

[PLW1]

Honestly I would just like the Imperial fists to get the same love as other chapters, I don't care what order they come in

[sitnam]

I used to be very anti-named characters, mostly since my armies are typically home brewed forces. But my Flesh Eater Courts, despite being a homebrew army, NEEDED the awesomeness that was Ushoran and Goremayne, even if they weren't in canonical colors. I've kinda come around on named characters after that, especially since you can kitbash them into homebrew characters whilst still enjoying the new sculpts. A head/hand swap

 

I do like the dual build kits that make both a generic and special character, but that isn't the best option all the time. Characters like  Lucius, Lady Malys, or the last wave of Marine characters are better served  having their own kits, whilst Lord Invocatus and the Votann character can be fine as dual builds. I think it comes down to how unique a silhouette the character has, and whether they belong in a fairly divergent subfaction.

 

Lady Malys being, you know, a Lady, sets her apart from a generic Archon sculpt. Lucius also has a unique look that sets him apart from generic EC characters. All the iconography of the different Marine chapters also sets their Epic heroes apart

 

But Yriel is interesting, because I don't see why he can't be a dual build. With an arm and head swap he can definitely become a generic Corsair leader

[The Yncarne]

I expect the named character to be out individually 90 days from the box set. I’m not too fussed about it; it means players can easily find them on the secondary market. Happened to 1k Sons players. 
 

in the case of Yriel he can be a generic captain or autarch with a head or arm swap. 

[calgar101]

Any range refresh I think needs to start with the 'core' of the range first, troops, transports, units it is themed around. Then special characters and flashy units, second. However, there is an argument to be had that HQ could be dual kits, the Tigurius box could make a generic librarian for example and going down this path could save SKU space for GW and speed up releases a little bit. 

An army boxed set must be a first. 

Edited January 19 by calgar101
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[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

39 minutes ago, calgar101 said:

Any range refresh I think needs to start with the 'core' of the range first, troops, transports, units it is themed around. Then special characters and flashy units, second. However, there is an argument to be had that HQ could be dual kits, the Tigurius box could make a generic librarian for example and going down this path could save SKU space for GW and speed up releases a little bit. 

An army boxed set must be a first. 

Unfortunately modern GW is peak ‘profit first‘ capitalists so dual build character kits are very unlikely because then you’re only buying one $55 kit instead of two $35-45 kits.

Edited January 19 by Inquisitor_Lensoven

[kabaakaba]

It's not a named character, but reveners kill team have character/line reveners bits, and it's not like you need much more space on sprue to make named char out of captain/librarian/etc

[calgar101]

1 hour ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

Unfortunately modern GW is peak ‘profit first‘ capitalists so dual build character kits are very unlikely because then you’re only buying one $55 kit instead of two $35-45 kits.

There is that yes but if done right, the kit would make the special character or generic version and so if you want to run a librarian and Tigurius together you'd need 2 of the kit but yes financially it does'nt make 100% sense. 

[sitnam]

3 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

Unfortunately modern GW is peak ‘profit first‘ capitalists so dual build character kits are very unlikely because then you’re only buying one $55 kit instead of two $35-45 kits.

Except we HAVE dual build character kits still being released, I dont think its a simple matter of "GW bad". Tigurius is a reasonable choice for a dual kit, but then again you cant really have all the chapter-specific iconography molded on if that was the case. Chapter iconography and aesthetics is likely the biggest thing keeping marine characters from being dual builds.

 

 

[JeffJedi]

They could add a new shoulder pad and lower leg plate and head easily enough to a kit to make a character. 

 

The Dark Angels Captain was an example of a plastic character-special character combo, everyone just asked for Azrael.