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28 minutes ago, Mogger351 said:

There's no play surface or terrain included, whereas the spearhead sets do include those. Because the terrain and table are defined it makes it a tighter designed game.

Basically the new starter should be like the CP starter box with a few extra units. IIRC the CP starter is the same cost as the old Leviathan box starter.  

Personally, I hope they leave the boards out, but I have no idea if they will or not. Terrain is always awesome and imo belongs in a starter box in the same way a rulebook and minis do.

 

As for starter box sales, I don't think we can really divine anything from one being available longer than the other. I mean, we don't have the sales numbers, we don't know how many they produced and there were pretty clear differences in the way they launched the two games (with the made to order thing, second wave etc.), so I don't think there's a lot to be gleaned from comparing them.

That being said, I think it's true that Stormcast just don't appeal to people in quite the same manner Marines do; there seems to be a more even spread in factions among AoS players, but I freely admit this is an impression, not actual data.

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19 hours ago, 01RTB01 said:

 

My first gaming love courtesy of Argos. 20 boyz and 40 grots would be fun to see. 10/20 probably more likely depending on what else is in there.

Yeah, I remember how awesome it felt unpacking all this stuff; that box was packed to the brim.

 

Not that new starter boxes haven't been, but I'm older and more jaded now, so it's just not the same.

Pure wishlist but what I’d love to see from a ork marine starter:

 

Echoing some commenters above, based on the 2nd box

 

Captain with combo melta (not tycho)

10 man tactical squad split into 2

something special for the marines

lots of gretchin

Some boys and kommandos 

a deffdread 

ruins 

 

 

 

4 hours ago, Antarius said:

Personally, I hope they leave the boards out, but I have no idea if they will or not. Terrain is always awesome and imo belongs in a starter box in the same way a rulebook and minis do.

 

As for starter box sales, I don't think we can really divine anything from one being available longer than the other. I mean, we don't have the sales numbers, we don't know how many they produced and there were pretty clear differences in the way they launched the two games (with the made to order thing, second wave etc.), so I don't think there's a lot to be gleaned from comparing them.

That being said, I think it's true that Stormcast just don't appeal to people in quite the same manner Marines do; there seems to be a more even spread in factions among AoS players, but I freely admit this is an impression, not actual data.

Theres a catch 22/paradox of the LAUNCH box and STARTER box being 2 different things  according to GW statements, but most of us would see the launch box as an edition starter box and starter box really for little timmys and tammys or people totally new to GW or even wargaming

 

If they go 40k spearhead I can see that being Starter Box not launch box

 

Minor tangent but if they introduced rules for demolishing terrain/collapsing buildings some new ruined terrain or rubble would be a nice add to launch box

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