More 11th Edition Boxset Rumours

[The Lost Son]

2 hours ago, Mogger351 said:

No they couldn't, because a devastators unit would simply be the above units with an option to pick your weapon. To the point that 5 devastators with missiles = desolation squad.

 

Devastators are gone, people need to let go.

I more meant under a mixed weapon squad capped at 4+ sergeant like long fangs as a veteran support squad but I understand your point. 

[Robbienw]

2 hours ago, Mogger351 said:

 

Devastators are gone, people need to let go.

 

They're still available to buy mate.

[Mogger351]

14 minutes ago, Robbienw said:

 

They're still available to buy mate.

Thank you for missing the point.

[Robbienw]

1 minute ago, Mogger351 said:

Thank you for missing the point.

 

They're still in the Codex as well old chap.

[Mogger351]

14 minutes ago, Robbienw said:

 

They're still in the Codex as well old chap.

Yes, I'm aware, people are asking if there will be a new primaris equivalent devastator kit, to replace the stumpy midgets still on sale. However I suspect you joined those dots and are just being awkward.

[Robbienw]

7 minutes ago, Mogger351 said:

Yes, I'm aware, people are asking if there will be a new primaris equivalent devastator kit, to replace the stumpy midgets still on sale. However I suspect you joined those dots and are just being awkward.

 

There has been several MKX Devastator equivalent kits.  They aren't replacing the Votann.

[jaxom]

10 minutes ago, Robbienw said:

 

There has been several MKX Devastator equivalent kits.  They aren't replacing the Votann.

There has not been a new heavy weapon squad with different heavy weapons types (las, plas, rocket, bolt, auto, grav) as options for an entire squad or within the squad. In that regard, Devastators have not been replaced and seem unlikely to be replaced. 
 

New heavy weapon squads are only Devastator equivalents when considering mono-weapon type Devastator loadouts.

[Robbienw]

That's because of the change in design paradigm that occurred in 2017 though.  They don't like to do differing weapon options for marines now, they like locked squad loadouts with only some variation to the weapon configuration.  There are still equivalent squads.

[Mogger351]

24 minutes ago, Robbienw said:

That's because of the change in design paradigm that occurred in 2017 though.  They don't like to do differing weapon options for marines now, they like locked squad loadouts with only some variation to the weapon configuration.  There are still equivalent squads.

Which is why there won't be another "devastator squad".

[Robbienw]

46 minutes ago, Mogger351 said:

Which is why there won't be another "devastator squad".

Just like there wasn’t going to be another Terminator Squad, or another Scout Squad or another Sternguard squad…

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

6 hours ago, NorthernUltramarines said:

 

Looks wise I'm hoping for some more additional armour plating on the firing side, just like the heavy bolter vet in the company heroes kit. Rules wise unsure how they could make them massively different, but I'm sure they'll have something that makes them worth taking. Personally, I'd rather have a belt fed grenade launcher on them.

A bolt weapon is a grenade launcher…a heavy bolter is a belt fed grenade launcher…

 

5 hours ago, gaurdian31 said:

Would he though? I mean we already got the Apothecary Biologis who had no one to hang with in Leviathan, so we could get a phobos ancient. I would like a gravis librarian though, don't think there is one of those yet.

Does a guy with a 15 ft tall flag pole really make sense for sneaky bois though?

[ThaneOfTas]

39 minutes ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

Does a guy with a 15 ft tall flag pole really make sense for sneaky bois though?

Does a "sneaky boi" painted in bright primary colours make sense though?

[gaurdian31]

49 minutes ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

Does a guy with a 15 ft tall flag pole really make sense for sneaky bois though?

 

The sneaky bois that shoot explosive rounds at close range when in combat? Sure, why not? He can unfurl his banner when the fighting starts to inspire his friends.

 

9 minutes ago, ThaneOfTas said:

Does a "sneaky boi" painted in bright primary colours make sense though?

Exactly.

[NorthernUltramarines]

57 minutes ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

A bolt weapon is a grenade launcher…a heavy bolter is a belt fed grenade launcher…

Right, but Marines also have grenades. Their bolt rifles have grenade launchers. They’re not strapping a second bolt rifle on, they have a grenade launcher. I want a big belt version of that.

[kabaakaba]

Bolter isn't grenade launcher, it's closer to 30mm jet explosive ammo such as used in AA weapon. Not grenades. 

[Tastyfish]

2 hours ago, gaurdian31 said:

Would he though? I mean we already got the Apothecary Biologis who had no one to hang with in Leviathan, so we could get a phobos ancient. I would like a gravis librarian though, don't think there is one of those yet.

A phobos ancient feels an unlikely combination, but 40K is silly enough for sneaky flags.

[Mogger351]

3 hours ago, Robbienw said:

Just like there wasn’t going to be another Terminator Squad, or another Scout Squad or another Sternguard squad…

Let's face it, the first 2 were both surprises. Aggressors are almost terminators but lack the invuln. Scouts are functionally in the same bucket as 4 other units who scout/infiltrate (note scout snipers did dissappear).

 

Sternguard nobody had any thoughts on iirc. Devastators however literally tread on the toes of half a dozen units and serve no purpose practically.

 

Which is why if they do them, strap in because that range might need a trim and the first wave of primaris might get hit.

[irlLordy]

Would an ancient make sense to include given that one was already in a starter set (Dark Imperium), and you can currently buy two versions of the generic tacticus version (standalone and in company heroes)? Seems like it might cut into those sales a bit. Different armour type (gravis or phobos) might be interesting though.

[Jukkiz]

Actual combiweapons would be nice to get again. Sternguard have them, why not sergeants in squads? 

Lets give GW an idea to sell same kinda upgrade kits to 40k primaris as they have in HH 

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

4 hours ago, ThaneOfTas said:

Does a "sneaky boi" painted in bright primary colours make sense though?

Color shift technology, we just see the color they have their armor as when they’re not in the field, but my sneaky bois are brown with actual camo cloaks

 

3 hours ago, kabaakaba said:

Bolter isn't grenade launcher, it's closer to 30mm jet explosive ammo such as used in AA weapon. Not grenades. 

What AA guns are using jet powered ammo?

 

theyre RPGs. Rocket propelled grenades.

[BitsHammer]

5 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

Does a guy with a 15 ft tall flag pole really make sense for sneaky bois though?

Seems fine to me.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

14 hours ago, BitsHammer said:

Seems fine to me.

Says covert, it’s clearly fine

[Mmmmm Napalm]

I for one hope devastators get a direct update some day. I don't care if they're "redundant."

 

The news regarding intercessor options is disappointing.

[CastellanDeMolay]

On 2/3/2026 at 1:47 PM, ChapterMasterGodfrey said:

Valrak's latest videos rumours:

• x5 Vanguard Veterans

This makes me doubtful of this round of rumors. With almost no exceptions but the BT Sword Brethren and Terminators, all elite units on 40mm bases (which they will be if they have Jump Packs) are now 3-6 models. The BTSB were the first elite unit to get primarized, so they can be an exception to the convention, and Terminators of both flavours are an explicitly "firstborn" type of unit with a lot of nostalgic appeal and they're way too iconic to change much. Sternguard are on 32mm bases, and therefore less "Elite" so they get to have 5-10 man squads. Then again, perhaps the Vanvets won't have JPs? Like a kind of veteran Assault Intercessor kit, akin to the Sternguard? 
 

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• x3 Gravis armoured heavy weapon squad with Heavy Bolters. He descibed it as a heavy version of the Inceptor's Assault Bolter - which is the heavy bolter from the company heroes. Bit disapointed this is a Grav weapon squad as how are these different to Heavy Intercessors?

Personally, I don't think this makes sense. They could be the new Devastators, and receive a multipart kit later on which gives them access to a variety of weapons, but It's not close enough to the original unit to "grandfather" them in, in the same way as SB, SGV, DWK, etc, so I don't think it's that. Eradicators had Melta Rifles, so that the MPK version would be able to take a Multi-Melta, meaning there was a reason to buy both kits, or at least just the MPK. This doesn't seem like it would allow room for an upgrade if they're already toting Heavy weapons. Could they just be Inceptors without JPs or Cawl-pattern moon-boots, who get one weapon swap in the MPK? Maybe, but GW are really running out of ideas if that's the case. Going back to what others have said about these guys just being Heavy Intercessors, albeit marginally more elite; I guess that would at least be something interesting to do with them, making HINTs 3/5/8/10 man squads depending on the mix of actual HINTs and HINTDEVs in the unit. Perhaps they'll be able to split up and attach to other units? I don't know, but I have a hard time believing this just because of how little sense it makes to have these and not a Tacticus armoured, upscaled Dev squad. 

[01RTB01]

4 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

Says covert, it’s clearly fine

Also says 6 7 too. Wolves were always ahead of their time.