More 11th Edition Boxset Rumours

[DemonGSides]

Yeah I can't imagine thinking that VanVets are going to 3 mans. I would more likely expect an Omni pattern melee unit before VanVets at a 3man. 

[irlLordy]

8 hours ago, NorthernUltramarines said:

 

 

 

This will be an amazing pickup for first time 40k fans or people wanting to start marines, which will be up after Space Marine 2/Secret Level and everyone who used to (or still!) loves Orks. I'm happy for all of this as they'll be fun to paint and the captain/ancient/libby can get put into a box for conversions. My real want with this box is enough terrain for combat patrol games with friends, and some good looking Vanguard Vets.

 

 

 

Speaking of terrain, what are the chances that it would be MDF terrain, like the kill team starter set? Would be super easy to set up and assemble for beginners, and honestly could fit in with a retro 3rd edition vibe.

[Blindhamster]

1 hour ago, DemonGSides said:

Yeah I can't imagine thinking that VanVets are going to 3 mans. I would more likely expect an Omni pattern melee unit before VanVets at a 3man. 

they'll be 5-10 for sure, like sternguard and sword brethren.

[BitsHammer]

12 hours ago, Orange Knight said:

 

I missed this.

To respond: We have absolutely thought about Heavy Bolter squads and different speeder types, but they weren't high on anyone's list of priority releases. I'm not saying that no one will be excited about them.

 

I'm saying that from my point of view, I wasn't looking at the 3 stormspeeders and thinking: "You know what we're really missing? A slightly smaller speeder with less firepower"

The Vanguard Vets on the other hand were outright expected by people.

I did say *most* because I know the refresh stuff is on people's list. 

 

Honestly this box has me a bit excited because it expands the Jump Pack options and I'm a big fan of Jump Packs in general. I don't mind a cheaper speeder that acts more like the Land Speeder and less like it's trying to be the Dark Angels heavy speeder if it comes at a cheap price point to match, but honestly thinking back to the pre-Primaris days the starter boxes were definitely more for new players with the Marine forces being largely very basic and often repeats of core units, while the Xenos side held the real interesting bits. So many Ork armies were launched by Black Reach.

[CastellanDeMolay]

10 hours ago, Marshal Reinhard said:

uhh.. why are you so hung up on base size? Why couldn't they have 32 mm bases like the sternguard?

 

Also, why even bother with that reasoning with regards to terminators? They're on 40 mm bases because they're big. Even gravis armor, of all types, including heavy intercessors are on 40 mm bases.

For some reason, I believed that JP Assault Intercessors were on 40mm bases (I just double checked and they're on 32mm) for which reason I had assumed that JP Vanvets must also be on 40mm bases. There is a trend of elite units on 40mm bases appearing in units of 3-6, with few exceptions, so it seems reasonable to believe that a unit I expected to appear on 40mm bases would be limited to 3 in the starter. 

I still think it's somewhat likely they will, if they have JPs, end up on 40mm bases, and in units of 3-6 like the Sanguinary Guard. Sure, Vanvets may not be as elite in-universe, but then neither are Bladeguard. I'm also considering the sprue layout, since an elite unit like VV is likely to end up on the one big sprue that comes with the SM half of the box and gets repacked as "X of the Y" later on, and the Jump Packs will take up twice the amount of space as a regular backpack at an absolute minimum, maybe even more, which gives them something like the same footprint as the Bladeguard Veterans from Indomitus. 

It's possible that they end up on the 1.5 sprues like the Terminators from Leviathan, but I still think that could be quite the squeeze, and it would also make the big double-sized sprue kind of empty if it only contains 3 Gravis bodies with HBs and 2-3 characters. I think if they do come on 32mm bases, they won't have JPs, and the JP version will release later as a MPK. That said, I'm really skeptical about the 3-man Gravis unit with HBs; if they're anything like Eradicators then they won't fill out much space on a sprue. They could be on a single regular size sprue, but both of the previous launch boxes only had the battleline units on those. 

I'm fully expecting whatever comes in this box to be pared down into a Combat Patrol. The Tacticals/Intercessors seem like a safe bet, so either 5 or 10 of those. I think the Captain is a given. I don't think they'll put the speeder in there, so we're looking at either two medium sprues worth of units or one plus another character. Bolt Rifle Intercessors, plus a 3-man HB unit doesn't really seem appealing/interesting for a starter kit, so I would guess it to be the Vanvets, plus probably the Jump Chaplain if that's accurate. So, Captain and [most likely 5] Intercessors, then the Jump Chaplain, and I think probably 3 JP Vanvets to go with him is going to be my prediction. 

Edited yesterday at 01:24 AM by CastellanDeMolay

[jaxom]

3 minutes ago, CastellanDeMolay said:

I still think it's somewhat likely they will, if they have JPs, end up on 40mm bases, and in units of 3-6 like the Sanguinary Guard. Sure, Vanvets may not be as elite in-universe, but then neither are Bladeguard.

I think the major difference is Bladeguard and Sanguinary Guard both have invulnerable saves. Similarly, Wolf Guard Headtakers can take storm shields for an invulnerable save. Assuming rumors of a 5-man squad are accurate then I think it means they won't have storm shields.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

6 hours ago, DemonGSides said:

Yeah I can't imagine thinking that VanVets are going to 3 mans. I would more likely expect an Omni pattern melee unit before VanVets at a 3man. 

I mean SG went to 3 man, and they’re basically just BA VGV.

 

1 hour ago, jaxom said:

I think the major difference is Bladeguard and Sanguinary Guard both have invulnerable saves. Similarly, Wolf Guard Headtakers can take storm shields for an invulnerable save. Assuming rumors of a 5-man squad are accurate then I think it means they won't have storm shields.

Assuming VGV still get shields they’ll have invulnerable saves as well.

 

however gravis units don’t have invulnerable saves and still come in 3s generally 

[Nephaston]

Speaking of Gravis, with one of the starter set units being one, do we know if one of the non-chaplain characters are also Gravis? Wouldn't mind an Ancient or Librarian to lead them. I guess I would even tolerate another Gravis Captain since that one at least would be new, unlike sword/shield on regular or jump captains.

[NorthernUltramarines]

12 hours ago, irlLordy said:

 

Speaking of terrain, what are the chances that it would be MDF terrain, like the kill team starter set? Would be super easy to set up and assemble for beginners, and honestly could fit in with a retro 3rd edition vibe.

Having recently bought the Halo miniature game which had some stellar MDF terrain I’d be completely down for that (mainly as it’s easier to store). I do think they’ll do plastic, as it’s what you get in the current starter sets and what we got in Skaventide. Ideally though I would like them to start selling some cheaper MDF kits, just so it doesn’t cost £500 quid to set up a table at home.

[Karhedron]

3 hours ago, Nephaston said:

Speaking of Gravis, with one of the starter set units being one, do we know if one of the non-chaplain characters are also Gravis? Wouldn't mind an Ancient or Librarian to lead them. I guess I would even tolerate another Gravis Captain since that one at least would be new, unlike sword/shield on regular or jump captains.

 

Latest rumour from Valrak is that all the characters are in Tacitus armour.  I agree that another Character in Gravis armour would be great (I would personally like the Librarian) but currently it looks like this will not be the release to deliver it.

[Orange Knight]

I saw a post on reddit that visualised the Marine half of the starter, so here it is:

 

 

[Mogger351]

32 minutes ago, Orange Knight said:

I saw a post on reddit that visualised the Marine half of the starter, so here it is:

 

 

Given the launch box will likely have more in than the subsequent starter set, what do they drop? 5 intercessors, the heavies and 2 characters?

[CastellanDeMolay]

1 hour ago, Mogger351 said:

Given the launch box will likely have more in than the subsequent starter set, what do they drop? 5 intercessors, the heavies and 2 characters?

I think they'll definitely drop the Landspeeder, since Combat Patrols pretty much never have a vehicle in them nowadays, and if they do It's a transport or some kind of buggy/bike+sidecar level thing with fairly minimal weaponry. I can't imagine the Captain not being on his own half-size sprue again, so he'll be in, plus whichever other character ends up on their own sprue. Given that the launch boxes always seem to have that one double-sized sprue, there will be at least two of the characters and one or two units, depending on model count, on that sprue; whichever they are won't be in the CP. 

Given a lack of Gravis characters mentioned in the latest rumours, I would guess that the CP version would contain something like 5-10 Intercessors and however many Vanguard Veterans, which would put them on their own sprue. It would then make sense to put the Jump Chaplain onto his own small sprue to get a similar 2 characters and 2 units to the current starter set, albeit with the second character able to join a unit. (maybe) 

Then again, if the Vanvets were on their own sprue then what would fill out the big sprue? The other 5 Intercessors perhaps? I don't think they'd be able to get the speeder on there, plus another unit and the characters. I'd be surprised if they bothered making a CP with just a Captain, 10 Intercessors and another character; that would be too plainly a far worse value (about 3 standard sprues worth of plastic) than other CPs that tend to contain around 4.5-5 regular sprues worth of plastic. Even the current starter/CP contains 3.5 sprues. 

[Mogger351]

3 minutes ago, CastellanDeMolay said:

I think they'll definitely drop the Landspeeder, since Combat Patrols pretty much never have a vehicle in them nowadays, and if they do It's a transport or some kind of buggy/bike+sidecar level thing with fairly minimal weaponry. I can't imagine the Captain not being on his own half-size sprue again, so he'll be in, plus whichever other character ends up on their own sprue. Given that the launch boxes always seem to have that one double-sized sprue, there will be at least two of the characters and one or two units, depending on model count, on that sprue; whichever they are won't be in the CP. 

Given a lack of Gravis characters mentioned in the latest rumours, I would guess that the CP version would contain something like 5-10 Intercessors and however many Vanguard Veterans, which would put them on their own sprue. It would then make sense to put the Jump Chaplain onto his own small sprue to get a similar 2 characters and 2 units to the current starter set, albeit with the second character able to join a unit. (maybe) 

Then again, if the Vanvets were on their own sprue then what would fill out the big sprue? The other 5 Intercessors perhaps? I don't think they'd be able to get the speeder on there, plus another unit and the characters. I'd be surprised if they bothered making a CP with just a Captain, 10 Intercessors and another character; that would be too plainly a far worse value (about 3 standard sprues worth of plastic) than other CPs that tend to contain around 4.5-5 regular sprues worth of plastic. Even the current starter/CP contains 3.5 sprues. 

I suspect the van vets and the chaplain will be in the CP, the captain as you say is the ubiquitous mono character, then 2 sets of 5 intercessors sprues. Its then either the bolter fellas or the speeder with the ancient and librarian on the big sprue they take out imo. With the remaining unit kept in.

 

I also suspect the speeder will be small, maybe even atv sized. It needs to fit onto one smaller sprue logically so will be a lot smaller than the stormspeeder and having 2 guns and possibly no transport allows a low toughness/wounds vehicle to slam in a CP.

[Nephaston]

5 hours ago, Karhedron said:

 

Latest rumour from Valrak is that all the characters are in Tacitus armour.  I agree that another Character in Gravis armour would be great (I would personally like the Librarian) but currently it looks like this will not be the release to deliver it.

Pity, guess those low hanging fruits remain unpicked.

[Marshal Reinhard]

Gravis Chaplain, Gravis Lieutenant, Gravis Ancient are all options I'd like to see before more Tacticus repeats, though the Chaplain having a jump pack is a nice plus.

[Chapter Master Valrak]

8 hours ago, Orange Knight said:

I saw a post on reddit that visualised the Marine half of the starter, so here it is:

 

 

 

Always find it hilarious that Reddit always go off the rumours I say then call me names. 

 

 

[CastellanDeMolay]

6 hours ago, Mogger351 said:

I suspect the van vets and the chaplain will be in the CP, the captain as you say is the ubiquitous mono character, then 2 sets of 5 intercessors sprues. Its then either the bolter fellas or the speeder with the ancient and librarian on the big sprue they take out imo. With the remaining unit kept in.

 

I also suspect the speeder will be small, maybe even atv sized. It needs to fit onto one smaller sprue logically so will be a lot smaller than the stormspeeder and having 2 guns and possibly no transport allows a low toughness/wounds vehicle to slam in a CP.

You could be right; iirc the mario-kart thing was 1.5 sprues, same as the Ballistus Dreadnought, so the Landspeeder probably will be too. 

 

I wouldn't be so sure about getting 10 Ints in the CP, there were only 5 Infernus marines in the current one, and I strongly suspect there will be terrain in the new top-end starter set which will affect what else is offered within. The more I think about it, the more I become convinced that the big sprue will have 5 of the Ints, 3 Temu-Eradicators plus however many characters. 

[phandaal]

55 minutes ago, Chapter Master Valrak said:

 

Always find it hilarious that Reddit always go off the rumours I say then call me names. 

 

 

 

Par for the course for reddit. Don't bother trying to understand the kind of non-euclidian knots they tie their brains into to come up with what passes for thought over there. 

[Rain]

5 hours ago, phandaal said:

 

Par for the course for reddit. Don't bother trying to understand the kind of non-euclidian knots they tie their brains into to come up with what passes for thought over there. 

That’s a heckin yikes my guy. Reddit is a wholesome quirky chungus.

[Magos Takatus]

On 2/6/2026 at 11:04 AM, Orange Knight said:

Perhaps it's because Marines just have too many units so surprises are starting to run thin, or perhaps they are playing it too safe. There are so many exciting things they could be doing - new Centurions, Gravis unit with Grav weapons, etc.
 

I thought the niche for Centurions had already been filled? The Invader ATV and the Desolation squad fill the niche for "models so horrible that they make me cry tears of blood when I behold them". I don't know what they could do to make siege whisks, armpit missiles and power mittens look decent, and they would have to address the "tripping over their own huge feet and stumpy legs" look. 

 

Man, that "Paul is bad at stuff" guy would be having a seizure reading this post. 

[HeadlessCross]

2 hours ago, Rain said:

That’s a heckin yikes my guy. Reddit is a wholesome quirky chungus.

Totally poggers, you should get Reddit Gold for that

[Magos Takatus]

4 hours ago, HeadlessCross said:

Totally poggers, you should get Reddit Gold for that

You're making me feel old. Please stop. If you start the 6 7 thing I might just crumble into dust.