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56 minutes ago, phandaal said:

Are we talking about the very first iteration of Age of Sigmar? When GW replaced WFB with a ruleset that was "vibes not balance, and lol we are so random, now have some extra victory points for your mustache"?

 

Lucky for GW, most people know that abomination is dead and gone, if they know about it at all. :laugh: 

That is what they mean; that pointless, stupid rules version of AOS is deader than disco. It's a much different system now and arguably a much different setting.

1 hour ago, Dezron said:

Rumors:

40k:

 

- SM get 1-2 new dreadnoughts, one with flame weapon

 

I know Chapter Master Abednego is suspecting that the two "separate" rumors are potentially referring to a single release, being a new Venerable Dreadnought.

 

I suspect he's somewhat right. But I tend to think it's just a multi-part Ballistus, since that model was already basically a single loadout update to the VenDread which specifically included a weapon option that was on the Venerable datasheet, but missing from the actual kit.

 

Dropping just that push-fit kit and holding back a full MPK box would give GW three more years to wring cash from the existing Venerable Dread.

 

You know, EXACTLY the kind of thing they would do.

 

Sign me up for a Venerable Redemptor - that is one Dreadnought idea I've been hoping would become a reality. 

I'm not particularly thrilled by the idea of a Flamer Dreadnought, although I suspect it will perform well in the next edition if we really are un-able to target infantry outside of 15" if they are hiding in terrain.

2 minutes ago, Orange Knight said:

if we really are un-able to target infantry outside of 15" if they are hiding in terrain.

and have not done anything in the battle yet.

 

I imagine the flamer on rumored flamer dreadnought will be the incedium cannon that's on the Invictor warsuit.

25 minutes ago, Mogger351 said:

But will they re-release the 3rd-7th chaos marines to match? It's awful close to cross-system.

 

I don't pay attentive to (or care) about current Heresy lore, but I don't think the Traitor Legions of the Scouring are really in their 40k chaotic forms yet. This is before most of them retreated to the Eye of Terror

1 minute ago, sitnam said:

 

I don't pay attentive to (or care) about current Heresy lore, but I don't think the Traitor Legions of the Scouring are really in their 40k chaotic forms yet. This is before most of them retreated to the Eye of Terror

Some definitely are, they're even shown as such or part way on the siege of terra covers.

26 minutes ago, jaxom said:

and have not done anything in the battle yet.

 

I imagine the flamer on rumored flamer dreadnought will be the incedium cannon that's on the Invictor warsuit.

 

Melee units are more than happy to not shoot a few pistols if it meant they can't be shot at.

2 hours ago, sitnam said:

 

I don't pay attentive to (or care) about current Heresy lore, but I don't think the Traitor Legions of the Scouring are really in their 40k chaotic forms yet. This is before most of them retreated to the Eye of Terror

During the Scouring era the following traitor are basically the same or close to there 40k counterpart: EC, WE, DG, WB, NL, Fallen, and AL (Yes, Maybe, No, ?)

 

Those that will need more time to change into there 40k form would be: BL (still SOH at the time), IW (conflicted on this one), and the Thousands Sons (The Rubric of Ahriman did not occur until after they got into the eye of terror).  

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Mixed thoughts on the Scouring, but interesting news & some great kit opportunities if it goes forward - but probably needs to be discussed in a different thread. 

 

I'm really excited to see what redone Meganobz look like in the modern day, bet they'll look spectacular. 

5 hours ago, Uprising said:

During the Scouring era the following traitor are basically the same or close to there 40k counterpart: EC, WE, DG, WB, NL, Fallen, and AL (Yes, Maybe, No, ?)

 

Those that will need more time to change into there 40k form would be: BL (still SOH at the time), IW (conflicted on this one), and the Thousands Sons (The Rubric of Ahriman did not occur until after they got into the eye of terror).  

 

I imagine late Heresy/scouring traitors are closer to their 40k counterparts, but I'd certainly hope they aren't the same. Ten millennia of living in the eye should have a profound effect upon the traitor legions.

1 hour ago, sitnam said:

 

I imagine late Heresy/scouring traitors are closer to their 40k counterparts, but I'd certainly hope they aren't the same. Ten millennia of living in the eye should have a profound effect upon the traitor legions.

There's room for tons of variance not just with respect to which legion, but the the particular unit within said legion, and even the individual legionary.

 

If anything, for the non-cult legions I imagine the increasing resemblance to 40k csm would come in the form of a deteriorating command structure and organization, as they steadily (or probably quite quickly in many cases) become ad hoc warbands

On 3/30/2026 at 1:07 AM, Antarius said:

That seems a tad hyperbolic. Even assuming everything they've ever done with their mainline games is bad, there's still games like Blood Bowl (3rd ed), Necromunda (1st ed.), Warhammer Quest 95, Blackstone Fortress and many others. I also really struggle to see Warcry as a bad game, especially when I try to assume an "objective" stance and just look at rules design and gameplay.

I really don't know how to phrase this, since the whole internet ting will inevitably make it come off as snarky, but I promise that that is not my intention and I am genuinely curious and well-intentioned, so forgive the clumsiness of the question, but: if you genuinely don't think GW has ever made a good game, why are you in the hobby?
Again, this is not intended as a "if you don't like it move to Russia"-response, I'm just curious what keeps you around and why you got into these games to begin with. I'm also curious as to what you would consider a good game, but that might be going too far off topic.

I completely agree that balance on its own doesn't make a good game, btw.


Nostalgia and fantasy. The whole is greater than the sum of its parts.

I got into the game because my dad came home from deployment with a White Dwarf and it seized my imagination. I really enjoyed the IP - especially fantasy - in video games, and at the end of 6th edition I finally had enough spare cash to buy into the game with Dark Vengeance. (In high school I bought Skull Pass but never played.) I've never really enjoyed the mainline games, but its what I've played the most of. I had my fun, or you could say I made my fun, larping as a Chaos Champion in the mess that was seventh edition and through eighth and ninth.

 

I think what sells Warhammer is the models and the fantasy and the size of the audience. And I at least played for as long as I did, in part to recreate that initial ephemeral high. I also do have a genuine appreciation for the IP and prior artistic directions. I really enjoy what I and the community bring to the table in terms of conversions and story telling.

Warcry was actually my favorite wargame GW has made. Its what I had the most fun with. In retrospect I am even happy with it. I also don't have a desire to play it anymore. It was overly-simplified and lacked depth to keep me or my community engaged long-term. Which is a fail when it comes to physical wargames in my opinion. Its hard for me to say its a good game because of this, but I am looking at it perhaps from a different angle than you. There are songs like Supposed to Be by Omarion and Hotline Bling that are a riot to blast in the right contexts. Are they good songs? I would say, no.

(I'd say I thought the spin-off AOS game with decks and bespoke warbands was a 'good' game. It was fun, amazing models, it had a lot of depth. It was streamlined but not dumbed down, it was also completely novel - I think GW would do well to actually radically reinvent its core games at the level of blood and bones but that is another topic. I never played Necromunda but it seems that it is often considered one of the best games GW has ever made.)

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2 hours ago, prozaczack said:

Has anyone seen the heavy bolter marine in Gravis armour leak? Or know where the photos can be found?

 

 

Gravis is unfortunate looking.  Hopefully this is less primaris and more classic real marine looking. 

6 hours ago, FarFromSam said:

Gravis is unfortunate looking.  Hopefully this is less primaris and more classic real marine looking. 

 

Aggressors and Inceptors leave something to be desired but Eradicators and Heavy Intercessors look great to me. We are getting elements of Firstborn design in the new box (the Intercessor with the Mk7 faceplate) but don't expect a wholesale reversion to pre-Primaris aesthetics. 

I love every Gravis unit, personally. Even the Aggressors look great when you actually see them on the tabletop. 

 

Now I hope that GW one day updates the Centurions. 

 

I'd like to add more to my army but I'm not sure if the unit will survive long term or if it's bound for Legends. I also hate how they can't be led by any characters...

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