More 11th Edition Boxset Rumours

[Ripper.McGuirl]

2 minutes ago, Antarius said:

I seem to recall there were some rumours about a zombie pirate faction for AoS. Maybe those were actually for 40K and we'll get primaris commissar captain Yarr-rick.

It would be an easy way to tie in with the Maelstrom pirate forces. Maybe they all make their way to Armageddon and Primyarrick has to stop them from renaming it Yarrrrmageddon.

[CastellanDeMolay]

7 hours ago, Antarius said:

That’s not actually a thing in the real world.

You didn't hear all the hubbub about some races being intrinsically evil in DnD recently? (Actually, I just looked it up, it was 5 years ago already) I've been to a professionally run DnD event where one of the rules was "no in-universe teh raciums". 

Back on topic: I did a little research, and I'm seeing that Blood Angels were not involved in the 4th War for Armageddon, according to the Crusade book, or at least weren't mentioned. In either case it would make sending them to Armageddon to fight Orks again either a retcon, or essentially a 5th war for Armageddon. The more I think about it the less sense it makes for the box to be called Armageddon, or for the narrative to be set there. 

Edited yesterday at 01:31 PM by CastellanDeMolay

[TheMawr]

5 minutes ago, CastellanDeMolay said:

You didn't hear all the hubbub about some races being intrinsically evil in DnD recently? (Actually, I just looked it up, it was 5 years ago already) I've been to a professionally run DnD event where one of the rules was "no in-universe teh raciums". 

Back on topic: I did a little research, and I'm seeing that Blood Angels were not involved in the 4th War for Armageddon, according to the Crusade book, or at least weren't mentioned. In either case it would make sending them to Armageddon to fight Orks again either a retcon, or essentially a 5th war for Armageddon. The more I think about it the less sense it makes for the box to be called Armageddon, or for the narrative to be set there. 

 

Even if on Armageddon the naming focus could be more blood angels relevant ; Angels of Death, Deathstorm ( strike force probably too much ) or something.

 

But its a good point, it's unclear to me if the theme of the 11th box being Armageddon is an actual rumor or deduction... or even a mis-expectation of the rumorsource themselves because campaign book is Armageddon and thus the follow up box featuring orks is as well.

It's possible there won't be a "big narrative threat" at all this time, just as there isn't in the campaign books.

But the box being warzone agnostic instead.

 

Isn't this about the time we should start seeing the influence of the new head of lore ? I dont know if I remember correctly if that was the soft-spoken guy from old preview events ( was it wade ?) So new approaches are likely, and sort of already happening.

( at least about 500 worlds they said in the WD article there will be follow up narratives.) 

 

I'd really like a lot of moving/evolving narratives that are not of a "the galaxy is doomed" level. ( even vigilus tried that kind of thing ) 

[Antarius]

43 minutes ago, CastellanDeMolay said:

You didn't hear all the hubbub about some races being intrinsically evil in DnD recently? (Actually, I just looked it up, it was 5 years ago already) I've been to a professionally run DnD event where one of the rules was "no in-universe teh raciums". 

I agree that we shouldn't take this further off topic, but I would advise against making the leap from "there was some internet hubbub five years ago" (there's always hubbub somewhere on the internet) to "now GW won't dare use the word greenskins anymore". It doesn't lead anywhere good and attributing that kind of importance to internet drama skews your sense of proportion over time (not least if you interact with these kinds of stories in algorithm-driven places).
This is not intended as a "call out" or anything like that, just friendly advice.

[DemonGSides]

The Ork faction in Warhammer Total War (Including all the way up to the current game) is literally called Greenskins.  If you're going to get riled up over something, at least make it something real.

Edited yesterday at 03:00 PM by DemonGSides

[Flaherty]

4 hours ago, TheMawr said:

 

Even if on Armageddon the naming focus could be more blood angels relevant ; Angels of Death, Deathstorm ( strike force probably too much ) or something.

 

But its a good point, it's unclear to me if the theme of the 11th box being Armageddon is an actual rumor or deduction... or even a mis-expectation of the rumorsource themselves because campaign book is Armageddon and thus the follow up box featuring orks is as well.

It's possible there won't be a "big narrative threat" at all this time, just as there isn't in the campaign books.

But the box being warzone agnostic instead.

 

Isn't this about the time we should start seeing the influence of the new head of lore ? I dont know if I remember correctly if that was the soft-spoken guy from old preview events ( was it wade ?) So new approaches are likely, and sort of already happening.

( at least about 500 worlds they said in the WD article there will be follow up narratives.) 

 

I'd really like a lot of moving/evolving narratives that are not of a "the galaxy is doomed" level. ( even vigilus tried that kind of thing ) 

They'll likely announce the Armageddon book set at Adepticon, when they're also expected to announce the box set and edition name. That makes the confusion a bit less worrisome. It makes the books feel like a natural lead-in. Especially if the rules allow people to use their prior edition codices. You could imagine them saying you can start playing the Armageddon scenarios in late April or early May and that you'll have reinforcements by the end of June. In any case, not long to wait now!

[Laurence]

Maybe - MAYBE - Ghazghkull will occupy Armageddon and give it back its original name, allowing the boxed set to be named Ullanor.  The orks could be the defending force for once, fending off an Imperial counter-invasion.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

12 minutes ago, Laurence said:

Maybe - MAYBE - Ghazghkull will occupy Armageddon and give it back its original name, allowing the boxed set to be named Ullanor.  The orks could be the defending force for once, fending off an Imperial counter-invasion.

Edition launch boxes are supposed to also get new people into the hobby.

i don’t think ‘ullanor’ is a name that will gain the attention of people primed to get started but not quite there yet 

[01RTB01]

30 minutes ago, Laurence said:

Maybe - MAYBE - Ghazghkull will occupy Armageddon and give it back its original name, allowing the boxed set to be named Ullanor.  The orks could be the defending force for once, fending off an Imperial counter-invasion.

They'd have to clear out all the daemons first. Honestly, I don't know how they're going to do the narrative for this one.

[Larkhainan]

Armageddon feels like a lock for the name. Blood Angels battling Orkz in a ruined city, big ass ARMAGEDDON across the box, ARMAGEDDON hitting my wallet, it all works

[Antarius]

Yeah, Armageddon feels like a no-brainer. Only thing that would keep them from doing it (which it might) is that they've already used the name a fair bit in recent times. Still, if I were to put money on anything, it would be that.

[Moonstalker]

I will throw a curveball in here for the box name.  This is all baseless speculation, a bit of devil's advocate for prematurely settling on Armageddon as what the starter box name has to be.  I'm thinking something with Octarius, or maybe "Rise/Return of the Beast."  The Orks have been losing to Hive Fleet Leviathan in Octarius for a while now, but they haven't lost yet.  Perhaps that warzone is the next flash point in the ongoing narrative, necessitating the intervention of the Blood Angels?  Khorne/the World Eaters got involved there too, for a while - maybe that ties in to the Blood Angels and their, uh, relationship with Khorne.  There's also the rumors of Grey Knights vs Khorne for Kill Team.  That could just as easily be Octarius as Armageddon.  The name isn't quite as flashy, but it could still make some sense.

 

But with the introduction of new Apocalypse rules, GW is going to want to sell us some more superheavies.  Maybe Ghazghkull has finally ascended to Krork/The Beast status?  His old primarch-sized model retired, and we're going to see a new knight-sized model for him.  The Armageddon books at the end of 11th edition set up his return to the planet, but now he's bigger and badder than ever.  That's where an alternate title for the box could come in; it's still set on Armageddon, but the launch box gets its name from the main threat (Ghaz as The Beast) instead of the location, and there's less confusion between the end of edition campaign and the new edition launch.

[ZeroWolf]

I think its more than likely that the box is locked in as Armageddon, and that its the last books name which isnt just going to be the single word. Not that I'm betting but I think something like Armageddon- The Beast Returns fits the naming pattern of the other books which still leaves the very impact hitting Armageddon for the launch box

[Dalmyth]

For the best of both worlds just you could just call it Orkageddon

[Dezron]

3 hours ago, Dalmyth said:

For the best of both worlds just you could just call it Orkageddon

 

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