More 11th Edition Boxset Rumours

[Wibbling]

If Valrak's on point, and it's a fast attack themed box, a landspeed 'gunship' would be great. Something like the Typhoon, with missile pods perhaps?

[Xenith]

9 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

That was 9th iirc and HQs weren’t joining units back then.

 

8 hours ago, Karhedron said:

No it was 10th edition. 

 

You're both right, in that the grav apothecary was in the 10th edition boxed set, however the content of that box was 100% designed with 8/9th ed rules and unit interactions in play - if you recall 10th was initially supposed to be an iteration of 9th, however they threw that out halfway through the design process and restarted, hence the horrible mess that 10th has been.

Edited Friday at 11:23 PM by Xenith

[Evil Eye]

A new Landspeeder variant would be interesting. I do like the idea of a transport variant for Scouts or Phobos armoured Marines, ala the Storm (may it rest in peace) acting like a Marine flavoured Black Hawk. That said, another thing that would be very cool IMO and would possibly get me to pony up some money for one would be a sort of remaster of the second edition Land Speeder; something smaller than the Storm Speeder chassis and fairly lightly armoured, but fast, maneuverable and able to bring quite potent weapons to bear. Aside from the obvious "Oh hey, it's that thing!" appeal to oldhammer afficionados, making it appropriately smaller (really not much more than the engine, control seats, weapon mounts and basic protection primarily against a crash rather than enemy fire) would also make it work quite well in a starter set; it wouldn't take too much sprue/box space, and when sold separately would make a very good impulse-buy bait due to being a smaller, cheaper little kit.

 

For those who don't remember, I'm talking about this beauty. Bonus points if the crew have those flight-mask styled helmets.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

32 minutes ago, Evil Eye said:

A new Landspeeder variant would be interesting. I do like the idea of a transport variant for Scouts or Phobos armoured Marines, ala the Storm (may it rest in peace) acting like a Marine flavoured Black Hawk. That said, another thing that would be very cool IMO and would possibly get me to pony up some money for one would be a sort of remaster of the second edition Land Speeder; something smaller than the Storm Speeder chassis and fairly lightly armoured, but fast, maneuverable and able to bring quite potent weapons to bear. Aside from the obvious "Oh hey, it's that thing!" appeal to oldhammer afficionados, making it appropriately smaller (really not much more than the engine, control seats, weapon mounts and basic protection primarily against a crash rather than enemy fire) would also make it work quite well in a starter set; it wouldn't take too much sprue/box space, and when sold separately would make a very good impulse-buy bait due to being a smaller, cheaper little kit.

 

For those who don't remember, I'm talking about this beauty. Bonus points if the crew have those flight-mask styled helmets.

But what niche would such a speeder actually fill, that isn’t already filled?

 

a fast speeder with hard hitting guns is a niche already filled by the storm speeders.

your proposal would just be a worse stormspeeder, maybe it would be a cheaper option. 

Edited Friday at 05:24 PM by Inquisitor_Lensoven

[Orange Knight]

I just don't think the Landspeeder storm is that unique or compelling anymore.

 

The Impulsor is literally a fast moving, open topped transport that can be utilised by more infantry units.

 

If I had to chose a unit to fill out the set, this would not be the one.

[The Praetorian of Inwit]

Has there been any rumours on what the Ork side of things will be?

 

I'm guessing new Boyz, perhaps new Nobz. The Trukk desperately needs a new kit, that could be the new big model for them? 

[01RTB01]

2 minutes ago, The Praetorian of Inwit said:

Has there been any rumours on what the Ork side of things will be?

 

I'm guessing new Boyz, perhaps new Nobz. The Trukk desperately needs a new kit, that could be the new big model for them? 

There's been murmurings of meganobz, stormboyz. Also some discussion of a "turret" type weapon and some form of dread but bigger than the current dread (hopefully a mega/ meka dread).

[The Praetorian of Inwit]

Meganobz could do with an update. 

 

A bigger dread could be an updated Deff Dread. Personally I like the existing one but I can see GW wanting to give it the Redemptor treatment. 

[Mogger351]

6 hours ago, Xenith said:

 

 

You're both right, in that the grav apothecary was in the 10th edition boxed set, however the content of that box was 100% designed with 8/9th ed rules and unit interactions in play - if you recall 10th was initially supposed to be an interation of 9th, however they threw that out halfway through the design process and restarted, hence the horrible mess that 10th has been.

There's never been any evidence for that though has there? Theres the weird janky stats in the leviathan instructions booklet for a lot of the units that are wildly different, which suggests stuff changed late on, but thats as concrete it gets and the rest is conjecture right?

[Xenith]

17 minutes ago, Mogger351 said:

There's never been any evidence for that though has there?

As I recall, Stu Black outright said it in one of the designer interviews in the run up to 10th ed release.

[01RTB01]

41 minutes ago, The Praetorian of Inwit said:

Meganobz could do with an update. 

 

A bigger dread could be an updated Deff Dread. Personally I like the existing one but I can see GW wanting to give it the Redemptor treatment. 

Getting something between a deff dread and 'naut would be good. I'd like to see deff dreads back in squadrons or amped up as redemptors are so much better. Guess we'll see in the not too distant future.

 

Meganobz I'm indifferent to. However, any of this being push fit would be great for our son. 

[FabiusV4lcoran]

I think it'd be cool to see more Snakebite and Freebooterz.  I know the Snakebites have a pretty good range, but I'm a sucker for anything Squiggy.  And more Orks with eyepatches and peglegs with shootaz would be fun.

[phandaal]

20 hours ago, Evil Eye said:

For those who don't remember, I'm talking about this beauty. Bonus points if the crew have those flight-mask styled helmets.

 

+1 for a return of the flying shoe.

 

I just think they're neat!

[SvenIronhand]

10 hours ago, FabiusV4lcoran said:

I think it'd be cool to see more Snakebite and Freebooterz.  I know the Snakebites have a pretty good range, but I'm a sucker for anything Squiggy.  And more Orks with eyepatches and peglegs with shootaz would be fun.

The AnPrim Orks are pretty interesting, yeah.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

I was only half paying attention but I think today’s rumor video said there’d be multipart outriders in the box.

[The Praetorian of Inwit]

If multipart outriders are in the launch box maybe there's a chance the long rumoured Chaos Bikers will arrive. 

[Crimson Longinus]

3 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

I was only half paying attention but I think today’s rumor video said there’d be multipart outriders in the box.

 

This seems rather unlikely to me. Starter box models are almost always easy-build ones. 

[Evil Eye]

On 1/23/2026 at 4:54 PM, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

But what niche would such a speeder actually fill, that isn’t already filled?

 

a fast speeder with hard hitting guns is a niche already filled by the storm speeders.

your proposal would just be a worse stormspeeder, maybe it would be a cheaper option. 

The Storm Speeder is also huge, almost the size of a Rhino if memory serves. This would be cheaper (both points wise and money wise) and have less of a hard time finding cover and not getting stuck between obstacles. Plus, with only two crew and neither of those crew having weapons mounted either side of their ears, you'd have far fewer Marines going deaf!

 

23 hours ago, Orange Knight said:

I just don't think the Landspeeder storm is that unique or compelling anymore.

 

The Impulsor is literally a fast moving, open topped transport that can be utilised by more infantry units.

 

If I had to chose a unit to fill out the set, this would not be the one.

The Impulsor is an oversized floating Razorback. It's a much bigger, slower target than a Land Speeder, essentially an IFV rather than a rapid transport helicopter-equivalent- the Impulsor is closer to a Bradley than the Storm's Black Hawk. Not that I'd say the Impulsor is especially unique or compelling either (though it does look quite nice when converted to run on tracks)...

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

1 hour ago, Evil Eye said:

The Storm Speeder is also huge, almost the size of a Rhino if memory serves. This would be cheaper (both points wise and money wise) and have less of a hard time finding cover and not getting stuck between obstacles. Plus, with only two crew and neither of those crew having weapons mounted either side of their ears, you'd have far fewer Marines going deaf!

 

The Impulsor is an oversized floating Razorback. It's a much bigger, slower target than a Land Speeder, essentially an IFV rather than a rapid transport helicopter-equivalent- the Impulsor is closer to a Bradley than the Storm's Black Hawk. Not that I'd say the Impulsor is especially unique or compelling either (though it does look quite nice when converted to run on tracks)...

I just don’t think it would sell well. Other than being smaller and a bit easier to hide. I’ve never had an issue hiding my thunderstrike however, and I tend to play on tables a bit lighter on terrain than most, so ‘easier to hide’ just seems like not much a selling point for less durability, and likely less firepower. 
how much cheaper cash and points wise would it need to be in order to get players to actually buy it for reasons other than just collecting?

 

it would have to be at least 40% cheaper than the stormspeeder for me to buy it unless the look of it was just really cool.(and since I’m not a fan of that model’s design, probably won’t happen lol).

 

and probably need to be at least 20-30% cheaper points wise for me to consider it over my thunderstrike.

 

the impulsor is not an oversized razorback, it’s a :cuss:ty compromise between a rhino and a razorback. More firepower than a rhino, but less transport capacity.

less firepower than a razorback, but much larger.

Edited 23 hours ago by Inquisitor_Lensoven

[Orange Knight]

I understand how the visual concepts behind the Impulsor and LSS are different. 

I'm just pointing out that on the tabletop, the Impulsor is just a better Landspeeder Storm and it's almost as quick.

 

That's not to say that a new Landspeeder couldn't have some funky rules that allow units to enter and disembark in the same turn or something similar.

Will it still be a Scout-only transport? It would be odd if that limitation still exists and there are no scouts in the set. I suppose they could make it a Phobos transport, but we've not heard any whispers about new Phobos units in the 11th starter.

 

I also don't think we need any other non-transport Speeders as we have a well rounded weapon selection with the 3 Storm variants.

 

 

[Indy Techwisp]

I hope Orks get updated Stormboyz in this.
Would pair well with the VanVets and we need some more Blood Axes representation.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

1 hour ago, Orange Knight said:

I understand how the visual concepts behind the Impulsor and LSS are different. 

I'm just pointing out that on the tabletop, the Impulsor is just a better Landspeeder Storm and it's almost as quick.

 

That's not to say that a new Landspeeder couldn't have some funky rules that allow units to enter and disembark in the same turn or something similar.

Will it still be a Scout-only transport? It would be odd if that limitation still exists and there are no scouts in the set. I suppose they could make it a Phobos transport, but we've not heard any whispers about new Phobos units in the 11th starter.

 

I also don't think we need any other non-transport Speeders as we have a well rounded weapon selection with the 3 Storm variants.

 

 

I mean not really.

In terms of firepower they’re about equal.

storm has a higher move stat which is heavily compounded as an advantage since it has <fly>
 

the impulsor has better survivability, significantly more so if you sacrifice a significant portion of its firepower.

 

edit

not particularly familiar with the Storm so using this as my point of reference.

 

https://www.adeptusars.com/miniatures/land-speeder-storm#datasheets

Edited 21 hours ago by Inquisitor_Lensoven

[Nephaston]

Might also just offer alternate armaments compared to the storm speeders; where those have melta, gatling, and las-talon (as well as as various explosives and stubbers) this might offer a heavy bolter, or a plasma cannon, or something really odd like a grav cannon.

[Orange Knight]

8 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

I mean not really.

In terms of firepower they’re about equal.

storm has a higher move stat which is heavily compounded as an advantage since it has <fly>
 

the impulsor has better survivability, significantly more so if you sacrifice a significant portion of its firepower.

 

edit

not particularly familiar with the Storm so using this as my point of reference.

 

https://www.adeptusars.com/miniatures/land-speeder-storm#datasheets

 

The two units are not identical but their purpose and function on the tabletop is similar:

 

-Both carry less than 10 models.

-Both move quickly across the tabletop

-Both have unique disembarkation related rules

-Both allow the unit inside to shoot whilst in the transport

-Both vehicles have a focus on anti infantry firepower

 

Two units don't have to be exactly the same to have commonality.

 

On top of this, I'm also saying that it would be weird to have a Scout-only transport in a boxset with no Scouts.

Edited 13 hours ago by Orange Knight

[NorthernUltramarines]

I’d love for a more buff based speeder, smaller than a storm and focused around supporting units. Small things like letting units that can deep strike use it as a teleport homer, giving the smoke keyword to nearby units, giving out a modifier to hit, letting you generate Command Points if it’s in the enemy’s deployment zone.

 

We have many a transport already and scouts don’t need one, especially as they have uppy-downy now for free. Storm Speeders are fast and give us offensive buffs + damage, and we have a myriad of transports. Some more support units in our roster would be lush!