Armageddon Steel Legion returning.

[Hfran Morkai]

Well...

 

I did say I'd laugh if Steel Legion were announced.

 

I'm not expecting them anytime soon (I couldn't bear the audio) but I wonder if they were originally planned or this is in response to the criticism. I feel first is more plausible but having sketches doesn't necessarily mean this was already in the works.

 

But I'm glad to see them happy to bring out some more Regiments, hopefully we get a Chimera update with Autocannon too.

[phandaal]

Awesome, and good on GW for listening! But also, lol. 

[Indy Techwisp]

Per the start of the stream, these guys are 2-3 years out as the sketches are as far into production as they've got.

Does beg the question of whether or not they were going to do Steel Legion before the kicking off happened or if that was a coincidence.

 

Either way, I would guess these guys aren't our 11th Ed Guard release since that feels a bit off for GW to show their hand for a faction's codex wave that far in advance, so expect these eventually turning up in a KillTeam release or as part of a Campaign Book like the other new Guard stuff if for 10th.

[sitnam]

I'm shocked frankly, but good to see. Between this and Kill Team though, where are the Catachan?

[Tastyfish]

Just now, sitnam said:

I'm shocked frankly, but good to see. Between this and Kill Team though, where are the Catachan?

Got to save something for the codex release.

Do note integrated heavy weapons in spectre teams though.

[Indy Techwisp]

1 minute ago, sitnam said:

I'm shocked frankly, but good to see. Between this and Kill Team though, where are the Catachan?

 

Considering the model lead time, I guess Catachan are the 11th Ed Guard Codex wave, since to fit the new formula they need a Troop kit, a Command Squad, a Heavy Weapon team and some other "spice" unit at minimum.

1 minute ago, Tastyfish said:

Got to save something for the codex release.

Do note integrated heavy weapons in spectre teams though.

Integrated Heavy weapons in what is essentially another Guard Spec-Ops squad makes sense.

For Catachan tho it'll probably be done like how Cadians, Kreig and Catachan have it in the current codex.

[mecanojavi99]

A surprise to be sure but a welcome one.

 

They seem to be getting a redesign of shorts, they still look like WW2 troops but some reason they also seems kind of more modern?

 

I wonder if they'll do another series of articles like they did with the World Eaters and SoB where they show a different bit each time.

[ThaneOfTas]

Honestly this is objectively very funny, after weeks of some very smug people asserting with extreme confidence that there was no market for another greatcoat and gasmask guard army and that obviously GW knows that, suddenly it turns out that GW knew nothing of the sort.

Initial sketches look interesting, looking forward to seeing more as it develops.

[sitnam]

4 minutes ago, Tastyfish said:

Got to save something for the codex release.

Do note integrated heavy weapons in spectre teams though.

 

3 minutes ago, Indy Techwisp said:

Integrated Heavy weapons in what is essentially another Guard Spec-Ops squad makes sense.

For Catachan tho it'll probably be done like how Cadians, Kreig and Catachan have it in the current codex.

 

Now heres an interesting proposition: Catachan don't get the full reworkn with HQ Squad/Heavy Weapons, but instead get a single officer kit and squads with integrated heavy weapons. Existing Catachan players can just use Cadian heavy weapons rules.

 

I'm not proposing this as a good/bad idea, but perhaps a way for GW to get around another big expansion for Guard. Or maybe Guard have a big enough fanbase to support it, I have no idea.

[Indy Techwisp]

8 minutes ago, sitnam said:

 

 

Now heres an interesting proposition: Catachan don't get the full reworkn with HQ Squad/Heavy Weapons, but instead get a single officer kit and squads with integrated heavy weapons. Existing Catachan players can just use Cadian heavy weapons rules.

 

I'm not proposing this as a good/bad idea, but perhaps a way for GW to get around another big expansion for Guard. Or maybe Guard have a big enough fanbase to support it, I have no idea.

 

Catachan already have a Command Squad and Heavy Weapon Team unit in game, the models just suck ass like their basic Troop unit does.

 

I see no reason for them to lose those considering we only just removed the entire army being able to mix in random heavy weapons.

Edited 13 hours ago by Indy Techwisp

[Hfran Morkai]

That's it, I'm still laughing at the "Paint your Krieg yellow" folks (which I get is a solution for now given these aren't near, however GW miniatures aren't cheap).

 

I'm interested to see how they'll develop. I reckon I'm unlikely to pick them up for 40K as if I'm to go Guard there it'll likely be Cadians (because Kasrkin are one of the coolest looking units going and I actually like Cadian pattern gear) but maybe as some Militia for 30K. I did really enjoy the SL Infantry Squad Missile Launcher from the metals.

[sitnam]

16 minutes ago, Indy Techwisp said:

Catachan already have a Command Squad and Heavy Weapon Team unit in game, the models just suck ass like their basic Troop unit does.

I know. This is basically the idea those get squatted. I don't support or believe this idea, just putting it out there that maybe Catachan return with a smaller range then we might expect. 

 

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That's it, I'm still laughing at the "Paint your Krieg yellow" folks (which I get is a solution for now given these aren't near, however GW miniatures aren't cheap

 

I still think Cadians with headswaps were a better SL option, TBH.

Edited 13 hours ago by sitnam

[Alby the Slayer]

This seems like they smelled that people were not happy about not having steel legion on armaggedon and they are trying to fix things.

The sketches says 2025, maybe they didn't pass the test for the 11th edition, otherwise it seems absurd to not include them in these releases in the first place.

 

I'm glad they sometimes listen to the community. It's all we are asking.

[TheTuninator]

As someone who came into the hobby around the time of SL but never had the chance to build an army for them, I’m very pleased! They were always my favorite regiment and I look forward to building an army down the road. Concept art does look a bit closer to Krieg than Steel Legion did previously (think the coats are a bit too long?) but of course it’s just concept art. 

[The Praetorian of Inwit]

This was not on my bingo card. Still I'm pleased to see it. 

[Nagashsnee]

Just imagining GW in panic like a The Office stech. Then someone remembers dave did some basic mock ups on his lunch break for steel legions years ago.

 

Grab the nearest young person slam them into a chair and yell at them to 'do the computer thing' and put a voice over onto the yarick trailer while someone scribles 2025 onto the scetches. 

[Mogger351]

3 hours ago, ThaneOfTas said:

Honestly this is objectively very funny, after weeks of some very smug people asserting with extreme confidence that there was no market for another greatcoat and gasmask guard army and that obviously GW knows that, suddenly it turns out that GW knew nothing of the sort.

Initial sketches look interesting, looking forward to seeing more as it develops.

It's alright I look forwards to seeing loads of people that complained buying up a new steel legion force in 3 years.

[Mechanicus Tech-Support]

Spoiler

 

[Ayatollah_of_Rock_n_Rolla]

It's nice to see that they have been working on the ASL after all. But I don't like like these. The top one are nice men at arms for my Knights, but this is not Steel Legion.  In general I don't understand why meddle with an already good design.  They clearly want the gloves gone - OK, maybe they are a too much of a retro design language. Gas masks with hose going to the back  - OK, maybe front respiretaros would be too Kriegish for most people, especially after they've given them also to the grenadiers. Gas masks with no hose - bruh.  The Cadians can take their armed knee pads back, thank you very much - again, clearly pushing for it in all the designs. The boots - let's see what they settle for. The coat - nothing terrible in these proposals, but why not just go with Smith's art?  Not sure abut the cuffs on the top picture. Armoured shoulder pads? Chest armour? Bro, what are you doing. And why are the designers on some weird crusade against the original helmets?

Are we really changing the thunderbolt emblem for an "A"? Like... really? You sure about that?

Lasguns are nice.

 

 

 

Edited 9 hours ago by Ayatollah_of_Rock_n_Rolla

[Matcap86]

Can't imagine these were whipped up last minute. I said it before and I'll say it again: GW doesn't move that fast, doesn't really have it's finger on the community's pulse and more importantly, they don't really care about internet hubbub.

 

Seems more likely this is a consequence of internal processes not lining up, causing thematically linked items not to be ready at the same time. Which has happened before.

[Robbienw]

This is brilliant, something to look forward to.

 

Enjoy your humble pie “just paint Krieg as Steel Legion, they are almost identical bro” collective!

 

I hope there will be direct updates of Darth Vader Officer and Sergeant with severed ork head.  Classics.

[Arkley]

ASL are my 2nd favourite after Valhallan Ice Warriors.... IG might be on the cards for me after all.

[Brother Carpenter]

Anyhow. I think it is interesting. Might pick some up to actually complete my SL

[grailkeeper]

I thought their helmets might look like this one from usurula creed.

 

Has ir been used on any other models?

[Son of Rawl]

Glad they listened, it is a welcomed announcement. They could have just done that from the start, but its a quicker response than the Custode faq.