Armageddon Steel Legion returning.

[sitnam]

40 minutes ago, roryokane said:

Those MP-40s lascarbines are bit too on the nose for me

 

Oh those are my favorite part. Las-SMGs need to be a thing

[FarFromSam]

Great news.  This has to be the best time to be a war gamer.   Congrats to Steel Legion players.  I love that they made us squirm.  Revenge for leaks? 

[LSM]

1 hour ago, Marshal Rohr said:

Someone pointed out on Instagram they’ve done away with the Steel Legion icon in favor of an A design. 

 

[Marshal Rohr]

2 hours ago, EmprahsStrongestGuardsman said:

 

The concept art pic looks like various different IG regiment designs jumbled up together randomly, eg on the left you got a cadian helmet with armageddon gas mask, krieg back pack, generic longish coat, body armour and shoulder pads (krieg??), arms with greatcoat cuffs rather than gloves (krieg), etc.

The middle left has more of an armageddon helmet, while the middle right has a sort of ushanka-shaped valhallan hat. The right guy looks more or less like a krieg, but he has a sort of armageddon-style torso with the eqpmnt straps. 

The legs on all of them don't really look like anything to me, but I'm not 100% on every design element of the newer kits tbh.

 

I really don't know what the purpose of this image is, is it really concept art for steel legion when so many of the design elements are from other regiments?

It’s literally a spectrum between the products they make on each end and becoming a mix of both in the middle. 

[MoriyaSchism]

9 hours ago, Ayatollah_of_Rock_n_Rolla said:

 

I'm shocked by how awful all these look. They look nothing like the Steel Legion, not a single helmet variant resembles the fallschirmjäger style helmet present on the originals or the Fedayeen style officer's helmet. Some of these images look like they are trying to draw concept art with the idea of using already existing bits from the 40K range to create a replacement. Look at the first from the left on the second image. There you can see the tiny breastplate from the Arbites kill team, the shoulder armour and backpack from the new Kriegers, the new Cadian helmet and knee-pads, the coat from the new Commissars. Some of the other designs also feature bits from already existing products as well. This is pure laziness. If you told me these were G.I. Joe Cobra style Guard proxies I would believe you. 
 

1 hour ago, EmprahsStrongestGuardsman said:

Looks like a starfleet badge. 

I can totally see that. It's so lame. 

I really don't know why they are doing this instead of just going back to the old Jes Goodwin universal guard template he was working on. They even hinted at it with one of the Necromunda military attache models. There was a character that had the helmet from these two drawings.

 

[TheTuninator]

7 hours ago, apologist said:

As a Steel Legion enthusiast and collector, I largely bit my tongue when we saw we were going back to Armageddon but weren't getting SL models – cathartic as complaining on the noosphere can be, it rarely improves things! However, now there are some actual rumours about new Steel Legion, I've gotta say that I'm cautiously excited.

 

 

Metal conversion work is fun... but it gets wearing after a while.

 

I do agree with @Ayatollah_of_Rock_n_Rolla that the sketches aren't quite hitting the spot for me at the mo. A bit of an 'uncanny valley' not-quite-Steel Legion, but perhaps they'll grow on me.

 

Of the four options below, the second in from the left is what I'm hoping for. 

 

 

The great joy of the Armageddon setting, of course, is that there are lots of Steel Legion armies, and I think it'd be entirely appropriate to use any new models as (say) the forces of Armageddon Prime, and the old ones as those from Secundus – but equally, I rather relish the idea of the new design literally being the same forces but a few centuries onward. If GW are going to advance the storyline, I'd rather they did something solid with it.

 

 

Either way, rules come and go, background can be personalised and re-interpreted, history can be refought, but cool models are forever and more options is always good :)

 

I think it's the lack of big over-the-sleeve gloves, combined with a too-long coat, which make the design feel off. They look much closer to Krieg than Steel Legion normally did. If the final version has the classic gloves and a shorter overcoat, it'll look a lot closer to what we remember. 

 

I'm not too worried, since concept art changes a lot, and I'm sure the sculptors will also have input to say "hey guys, these are coming out too close to Krieg, how can we make them look more like the old sculpts?" 

Edited 6 hours ago by TheTuninator

[Marshal Rohr]

7 minutes ago, MoriyaSchism said:

I'm shocked by how awful all these look. They look nothing like the Steel Legion, not a single helmet variant resembles the fallschirmjäger style helmet present on the originals or the Fedayeen style officer's helmet. Some of these images look like they are trying to draw concept art with the idea of using already existing bits from the 40K range to create a replacement. Look at the first from the left on the second image. There you can see the tiny breastplate from the Arbites kill team, the shoulder armour and backpack from the new Kriegers, the new Cadian helmet and knee-pads, the coat from the new Commissars. Some of the other designs also feature bits from already existing products as well. This is pure laziness. If you told me these were G.I. Joe Cobra style Guard proxies I would believe you. 
 

I can totally see that. It's so lame. 

I really don't know why they are doing this instead of just going back to the old Jes Goodwin universal guard template he was working on. They even hinted at it with one of the Necromunda military attache models. There was a character that had the helmet from these two drawings.

 

Universal Guard would be a dream come true. It’s the space marine principle, it’s proven to work. 

[Lord Marshal]

So now they're coming, all those youtubers who were definitely 100% big Steel Legion fans like they pinky promised despite never mentioning them before the Yarrick trailer are going to run out and make sure these sell out within the first day, right?

 

Right?

 

Genuinely happy for the actual Steel Legion fans though.

 

Edited 5 hours ago by Lord Marshal

[Antarius]

So, I gather that Krieg looks nothing like Steel Legion and now neither does Steel Legion? At least we're not going to run out of things to complain about, I guess.

[Corswain]

I honestly thought we would see Catachan get a refresh before the Steel Legion. 

 

It wouldn't surprise me if there were some serious redesigns. As much as a few of us will know and notice the differences, new Steel Legion will likely need to have enough changes made to distinguish them from Krieg for the majority of consumers - Two trenchcoat and gasmask wearing subfractions will likely just compete for sales rather than attract different customers.

[DemonGSides]

37 minutes ago, Corswain said:

I honestly thought we would see Catachan get a refresh before the Steel Legion.

 

I think we are going to, just that no one raised enough hell to get them announced 3 years early.

[Nephaston]

37 minutes ago, Corswain said:

I honestly thought we would see Catachan get a refresh before the Steel Legion. 

Seeing as these are implied to be two years out Catachans might just hit in the meantime. Catachan players aren't screeching all over the Net so there is no need to placate them back into civility with concept art.

[TheTuninator]

1 hour ago, Corswain said:

I honestly thought we would see Catachan get a refresh before the Steel Legion. 

 

It wouldn't surprise me if there were some serious redesigns. As much as a few of us will know and notice the differences, new Steel Legion will likely need to have enough changes made to distinguish them from Krieg for the majority of consumers - Two trenchcoat and gasmask wearing subfractions will likely just compete for sales rather than attract different customers.

TBH, I think the classic Steel Legion look is already recognizably different from Krieg enough that this isn't a huge issue.

 

Remember, the game has like 50 different flavors of Space Marine all wearing the same armor. 

[Marshal Rohr]

Catachans have to be in this Nemesis game type hunting Exodites with a big saurian monster. They’re probably right on top of us but after the new edition. 
 

 

Edit: previous post got flagged

[Laurence]

6 hours ago, LSM said:

 

"You think this letter on my head stands for Cadia?"