40K mysteries

[Karhedron]

2 hours ago, Cpt_Reaper said:

In short if GW knows the answer to a question or scenario they posed us they must answer it at some point.

 

GW often doesn't know the answer when it creates a mystery. They scatter plot hooks like seeds through their lore so they can pick up on things later. A classic example is the 3rd edition BRB vaguely mentioned "the quiescent perils of C'tan". It was years later that they picked this name up for the Necron star-gods.

[Karhedron]

6 hours ago, Kommisar_K said:

Anyway, I'm kinda curious about the true origin of the Orks. Only stuff I've heard is that they were probably creations of the Old Ones, but "Orks iz Orks" they say. Never found out if that theory has officially been confirmed or is just fanfiction. Anyway, seems like a tale that could be quite interesting. Even more so if we just got a few tidbits. 

 

Yes, this was confirmed in the 5th edition Necron codex. The Old Ones created a race of resilient, green skinned warriors called the Krork to act as their foot soldiers in the war against the Necrons. Some characters in 40k have referred to Orks as Krork.

[Karhedron]

8 hours ago, Vogon said:

One thing I'd like to know is what happened to all the perpetuals from theHH books. I think a couple were resolved but there were quite a few of them.

 

I think that the only Perpetuals surviving after the HH are the Emperor, Vulkan, Cyrene Valantion (now merged with Katerina Moriana) and John Gramaticus, everyone else is dead. Also it is not clear if JG is still a Perpetual or is on his last life since he was resurrected by the Eldar which may be a one-time deal. Here are the ones I can remember.

 

Malcador: Burned up by the Golden Throne.

Alivia Sureka: Sacrificed her immortality to resurrect Malcador after he was killed by Magnus

Ollanius: Killed by Horus while protecting the Emperor

Damon Prytanis: Killed by Barthusa Narek at the behest of Eldrad

Erda: Killed by Eerebus and 4 Greater Daemons

 

This suggests that the Emperor is the last surviving "true" Perpetual since the others received their powers from others. Vulkan was designed that way by the Emperor. Cyrene only became a Perpetual after being resurrected by Erebus. John Grammaticus became a Perpetual after being empowered by the Eldar.

[Rogue]

9 hours ago, Cpt_Reaper said:

In short if GW knows the answer to a question or scenario they posed us they must answer it at some point.

 

I'm curious as to why you think that. 

 

I get the Chekhov's Gun element, and in something that's more narrative, I'd broadly agree. 

 

But when it comes to world-building, I don't think everything does need to be resolved. In a complex and interesting world, not everything needs to be explained or even explored. It's the open-endedness that brings depth and texture to the world. 

 

But we're in very subjective territory, so, like I said, I'm interested to know why you think the opposite.

[Rogue]

Double post.

Edited 6 hours ago by Rogue

[GSCUprising]

3 hours ago, Rogue said:

 

I'm curious as to why you think that. 

 

I get the Chekhov's Gun element, and in something that's more narrative, I'd broadly agree. 

 

But when it comes to world-building, I don't think everything does need to be resolved. In a complex and interesting world, not everything needs to be explained or even explored. It's the open-endedness that brings depth and texture to the world. 

 

But we're in very subjective territory, so, like I said, I'm interested to know why you think the opposite.

I am in agreement here. Mysteries posed by the creators of the setting do not *have* to be resolved. When planted and planted well, as opposed to just tossed in like some casual narrative hand grenade, can linger and add to the setting. 

 

I quite enjoy some mysteries being left in the stories I read and have incorporated a couple into my own writing. 329, in my writing, for example, is not sentient, but still autonomous. One character becomes a little too obsessed with trying to pry open its secrets and it really saddens him when he has to send it off on a suicide run knowing he'll never know all the answers. 

 

And I'll never give those answers because even I don't have them, intentionally. I would hope its a similar case for Legios II and XIII. I don't need to know the answer. Keep me guessing!