Lord Marshal Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 (edited) HERO OF THE IMPERIUM!!! Quote The kit comes with the options to base Cain and Jurgen separately or back-to-back on a larger base to make a mini diorama. Quote To celebrate the release of Cain’s new miniature, a special illustrated and annotated version of his first full-length novel, For the Emperor, is also coming out. The classic tale sees Cain and his regiment of Valhallans struggling to maintain order at an Imperial outpost on the edges of the T’au Empire. This new edition includes 15 brand-new illustrations and 130 annotations by author Sandy Mitchell. Edited May 18 by Lord Marshal phandaal, Doghouse, irlLordy and 11 others 5 8 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388126-ciaphas-caine-new-model/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkhorse0607 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 I am so happy. The way they painted Cains face is weird and makes him look like a monkey But I am so happy Lord Marshal, DarkChaplain, phandaal and 10 others 2 11 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388126-ciaphas-caine-new-model/#findComment-6171762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 I don't like them. Faces just seem wrong. Cool commisar model as long as the head is removable. And Jurgen is the same. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388126-ciaphas-caine-new-model/#findComment-6171763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 2 minutes ago, DemonGSides said: I don't like them. Faces just seem wrong. Cool commisar model as long as the head is removable. And Jurgen is the same. I agree, super hyped they get minis but compare them to the artwork in the back of the promo and one is a chiselled handsome commissar and the other looks like the chimp from the Robbie Williams movie. Interrogator Stobz and Felix Antipodes 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388126-ciaphas-caine-new-model/#findComment-6171764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitnam Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 (edited) I haven't read the Cain stuff in years (2008?) but man these are cool. GW painting hardly ever looks good on faces. Id hold judgement on them Edited May 18 by sitnam mel_danes, ggergnayr, Lord Marshal and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388126-ciaphas-caine-new-model/#findComment-6171765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 That's a nice looking greatcoat the chap on the right has. Valhallans one day? Burni and Arkley 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388126-ciaphas-caine-new-model/#findComment-6171766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Just now, Mogger351 said: I agree, super hyped they get minis but compare them to the artwork in the back of the promo and one is a chiselled handsome commissar and the other looks like the chimp from the Robbie Williams movie. Probably because any artwork where Cain is attractive or heroic is, rather amusingly, firmly established as in-universe propaganda. Cain isn't particularly attractive otherwise - and Jurgen very definitely isn't. Focslain, Petitioner's City, Lord Marshal and 2 others 3 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388126-ciaphas-caine-new-model/#findComment-6171767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 I like it, the face is a bit weird but I think it fits this idea that the mini isn't peak Cain but middle aged, a bit chubby, bit worn and not like the propaganda posters yet still being the smug bastard he can be. Magos Takatus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388126-ciaphas-caine-new-model/#findComment-6171768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Lord Marshall is so fast with the updates. This is a must-buy mini. I don't actually like it all that much, I think he looks off, but he's still too much of an icon. Fingers crossed that he has some thematic rules! Too big of an opportunity to miss. Tawnis, Lord Marshal and BadgersinHills 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388126-ciaphas-caine-new-model/#findComment-6171770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matcap86 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Joe said: Probably because any artwork where Cain is attractive or heroic is, rather amusingly, firmly established as in-universe propaganda. Cain isn't particularly attractive otherwise - and Jurgen very definitely isn't. I mean, he gets plenty of romantic action in the books, so there must be a bit going for him. Cain that is. On the faces, I did a workshop with Erik Swinson the other day and he showed the difference the paint job makes on a model. He redid the derpy Uriel Ventris model and it's a night and day difference on the same sculpt: I think the 'eavy Metal paint job just isn't all that suited to faces. Edited May 18 by Matcap86 Dalmyth, LSM, DarkChaplain and 16 others 7 9 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388126-ciaphas-caine-new-model/#findComment-6171771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 1 minute ago, Matcap86 said: I mean, he gets plenty of romantic action in the books, so there must be a bit going for him. Cain that is. I've seen some proper rank looking blokes manage this. Helps in the suspension of disbelief. 01RTB01 and Matcap86 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388126-ciaphas-caine-new-model/#findComment-6171772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukkiz Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 They both kinda looking like cast from Planet of the apes. Good to see more book characters though Orange Knight, Kallas, Ming the Merciless and 4 others 5 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388126-ciaphas-caine-new-model/#findComment-6171773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 So sick. Having his gun in a holster is a clever move. In the books he uses a laspistol. In the book covers he always uses a bolt pistol. The fans have rationalised this as the book covers being in universe propaganda. I think that's a deliberate choice by the sculptor. I do think the smug look on the model makes it look more like the in universe propaganda hero of the Imperium Cain, rather than the self daunting character Cain. They should have done this years ago. Even though Commissars are the Primaris lt of guard models this is one I've wanted for ages. DarkChaplain, sitnam, BadgersinHills and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388126-ciaphas-caine-new-model/#findComment-6171774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 32 minutes ago, Joe said: Probably because any artwork where Cain is attractive or heroic is, rather amusingly, firmly established as in-universe propaganda. Cain isn't particularly attractive otherwise - and Jurgen very definitely isn't. Oh I get that, but he's noted to be in good nick and not unattractive nevertheless. Still a fair shot away from what I feel he got. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388126-ciaphas-caine-new-model/#findComment-6171777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zulu.tango Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 (edited) I'm thrilled Jurgen is so :cuss:-ugly. The lack of webbing/pouches covering his greatcloak is a dropped detail, but I'm pretty happy otherwise. The Cain face is fine, the paint job is what is awful. The huge highlights under his eyes make his cheekbones look insane. The highlights combined with the facial hair make him look more simian. I'm glad they gave him a Bruce Campbell chin Edited May 18 by zulu.tango spelling/phrasing ThaneOfTas and DarkChaplain 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388126-ciaphas-caine-new-model/#findComment-6171779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blissful Brushes Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 I think he looks pretty good. A bit more stereotypical napoleonic era English gentleman than commissar though. Would go well with my Vostroyans though Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388126-ciaphas-caine-new-model/#findComment-6171782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan the Lurker Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 1 hour ago, darkhorse0607 said: I am so happy. The way they painted Cains face is weird and makes him look like a monkey But I am so happy Upscaled Ratling was my first thought. I still like the minis though. Madao 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388126-ciaphas-caine-new-model/#findComment-6171787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcomet Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Fantastic!!! My favorite warhammer characters. Aaaaand that updated valhallan uniform looks good Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388126-ciaphas-caine-new-model/#findComment-6171795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil H Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 I really like them. Very Victorian mutton chops! New version of the book is a nice touch. Of course they don't mention the 2005 limited Ed mini though..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388126-ciaphas-caine-new-model/#findComment-6171796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Eye Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Damn, took long enough! Nice looking miniatures though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388126-ciaphas-caine-new-model/#findComment-6171797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 I really like that, hopefully it'll be end of the month as I will try and get one if it is. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388126-ciaphas-caine-new-model/#findComment-6171799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kommisar_K Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 LET'S GOOOO!!! Definitely going to pick up a copy. As others have said the 'Eavy Metal paint job doesn't lend itself well to faces, but this looks pretty good. As for Jurgen, who else thinks his greatcoat looks a bit ill-fitted? An accurate detail indeed! Lacks the webbing, but that doesn't seem likely to transition to official miniature very well (and should be fun to sculpt) Now where are the Valhallans? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388126-ciaphas-caine-new-model/#findComment-6171800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Long overdue! Looking forward to seeing Cain's face painted by someone who didn't use a picture of Professor Bobo as a reference. Burni 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388126-ciaphas-caine-new-model/#findComment-6171802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadlessCross Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 2 hours ago, Matcap86 said: I mean, he gets plenty of romantic action in the books, so there must be a bit going for him. Cain that is. On the faces, I did a workshop with Erik Swinson the other day and he showed the difference the paint job makes on a model. He redid the derpy Uriel Ventris model and it's a night and day difference on the same sculpt: I think the 'eavy Metal paint job just isn't all that suited to faces. When models don't look the best, I tell everyone the same thing: wait until someone else paints it. That's worked outside a few exceptions. No paint job will ever fix Coteaz. Matcap86 and Ming the Merciless 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388126-ciaphas-caine-new-model/#findComment-6171804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefeb Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Like a couple of characters from planet of the apes. Cain is supposed to be handsome and lean.....these aint that! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/388126-ciaphas-caine-new-model/#findComment-6171805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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