A Question of Apps…

[Rowland]

Folks,

I couldn’t find an obvious thread to discuss apps.

So here goes.

From my pov: The GW app is a Gold standard, it’s graphics are good, representing GW’s artwork and style, list building is easy and as accurate as any can be and the addition of Combat Patrol, the Command bunker and War Journal all add to the complete 40k app.  However, it comes at a High price.  To unlock a faction (Combat Patrol excepted) you must buy a codex.  You must also pay a subscription to Warhammer+ which has just gone up from £5.99 to £6.99 /month. This sum, whilst giving access to White Dwarf and media produced by GW is getting on for TV subscription figures.

So far you cannot print cards from GW’s app which I personally believe is most valuable, however, you can copy the format onto your own cards.  The GW format has a nice turn/phase by turn/phase list of stratagems as an easy check list for newcomers like me.

Alternatives are out there and I don’t know them all so please add below with your “review”.

So far I have looked at New recruit and War Organ.

 

New Recruit: Is a fairly austere looking app but functions well.  Navigation is a bit clunky but you get used to it.  Army building is simple and free.  You can add Enhancements which are calculated toward the army value.  To go further than army building you must pay a support fee. It currently stands at £29 (which equates to £2.42/month).  This paywall gives you access to stratagems and various other functions like game tracking and attaching photos of your figures to the unit data.

Of particular note for me is the variety of printing options which include a GW style card format as well as several others.  
I haven’t yet paid.  I don’t object to supporting developers as long as the product is what I want.  The developer seems to be constantly updating the app and Discord is available.

Having the option to print your cards rules is nice.

 

War Organ: I have only recently tried this.  The tile based interface is nice to use and it even has confirmation sounds on pressing.  All the data seems up to date (as possible). It gives stratagems for free and its printing function is as good as New Recruits but without the GW card format.  However it does give the option to force a unit card to a new sheet.

Army building is straightforward, navigation is similar to NRec. 
My only misgiving so far is that, although Enhancements are listed in the Detachment list, I haven’t found a way to afix them to a unit when army building.  The cost of that Enhancement also doesn’t appear. (Enhancements can be attached and scored…see below).

 

 

Edited 10 hours ago by Rowland

[kabaakaba]

You need to open unit details, if it could have enchantments it would be listet 

[Rowland]

45 minutes ago, kabaakaba said:

You need to open unit details, if it could have enchantments it would be listet 

You’re right.  Add the unit to your army and add the enhancement when you enter the unit details.  I had been using Blood Angels as a test but it seems they don’t have many enhancements.  Tyranids do.  Thanks.

[WBRBloom]

To add something here: New Recruit also allows you to export your army list in order to setup an army/game on virtual tabletop on Steam. I've used it quite a few times and it was (at least in 10th e.) quite handy and exceptionally accurate.

 

I'm not aware if there are any other apps out there, that allows you to do that but again, I'm not the most tech savvy person there is, especially when it comes to phones and apps. 

[Khulu]

You do not need to subscribe to WH+ to get the app. For 40k, I primarily use the GW app and am not a subscriber.

[Rowland]

7 minutes ago, Khulu said:

You do not need to subscribe to WH+ to get the app. For 40k, I primarily use the GW app and am not a subscriber.

Oh, that’s news to me.  Do you get all the functionality with the app?  I wonder why I paid a sub?  I’m not that interested in their other stuff.

Edited 5 hours ago by Rowland

[Lathe Biosas]

I'm sticking with new recruit. That way I can use it with my work phone/computer. The company doesn't like us downloading "unauthorized applications," especially "gaming apps."

 

Somehow the Warhammer app is equated to gambling.

[Khulu]

1 hour ago, Rowland said:

Oh, that’s news to me.  Do you get all the functionality with the app?  I wonder why I paid a sub?  I’m not that interested in their other stuff.

The only limit, as far as I can tell, is without a subscription you are limited to one army roster at a time. 

[Kommisar_K]

Tabletop battles is a good one for actual game tracking. Easy to learn the interface, very thorough, and if you want it can remind you to take pictures as you go through your game (something I imagine could be useful to folks here). Its big drawback is that it doesn't present the exact wording of many of the missions, especially when there's an action involved. So personally I'd recommend having a mission deck or other source of info if you're not very familiar with the current set. 

 

The actual 40K app is my go to for army building. For free, you can access any faction's rules (as long as you have the corresponding codex & redeem its code) and build one army. The Command bunker is really nice as a way to check stats, strats, and allat without flipping through various books & knocking them off the table edge you squeezed them onto. I have yet to properly run the War Journal through its paces but it looks good so far. Full mission rules, secondaries included, seems reasonably simple, lookin' forward to trying it out properly. 

As for the subscription... No. Just no. I probably couldn't take advantage of having WH+ even if I did subscribe, and from all I've heard I could get through the good content in a month. And the app is good enough as is. 

[Brother Tyler]

What games are supported by the app?

[NTaW]

48 minutes ago, Khulu said:

The only limit, as far as I can tell, is without a subscription you are limited to one army roster at a time. 

 

If you sign up for a month and make a ton of rosters for all your playable factions and points levels, they will all still be there when your sub is done. You won't be able to add new ones but you will have however many you made to begin with. I have 11 lists in my (now) unpaid version.

4 minutes ago, Brother Tyler said:

What games are supported by the app?

 

Sorry to double post, on my phone and editing sucks.

 

40k is supported in the 40k app. All points levels, and now including Combat Patrol.

 

There's separate apps for other games, though I'm not sure how many. AOS and Kill Team at least I think.

[Kommisar_K]

14 minutes ago, Brother Tyler said:

What games are supported by the app?

As NTaW said, GW maintains separate apps for separate games. 40K (CP, 1k, 2k & 3k games) AOS, and Kill Team (commonly described as "a glorified pdf reader". Perhaps strangely, there don't seem to be GW-official Warcry or Necromunda apps. 

 

The WH+ subscription gets you the 40K & AOS apps, along with the minis, WHTV, & apparently an archive of old White Dwarf mags.

[Brother Tyler]

My point is that each app could be discussed in the forum for the related game.

[Rowland]

2 hours ago, Khulu said:

The only limit, as far as I can tell, is without a subscription you are limited to one army roster at a time. 

Ah, that’s it, I have 3 different factions now.  I can just delete the army when I change faction.

 

1 hour ago, Kommisar_K said:

Tabletop battles is a good one for actual game tracking. Easy to learn the interface, very thorough, and if you want it can remind you to take pictures as you go through your game (something I imagine could be useful to folks here). Its big drawback is that it doesn't present the exact wording of many of the missions, especially when there's an action involved. So personally I'd recommend having a mission deck or other source of info if you're not very familiar with the current set. 

 

The actual 40K app is my go to for army building. For free, you can access any faction's rules (as long as you have the corresponding codex & redeem its code) and build one army. The Command bunker is really nice as a way to check stats, strats, and allat without flipping through various books & knocking them off the table edge you squeezed them onto. I have yet to properly run the War Journal through its paces but it looks good so far. Full mission rules, secondaries included, seems reasonably simple, lookin' forward to trying it out properly. 

As for the subscription... No. Just no. I probably couldn't take advantage of having WH+ even if I did subscribe, and from all I've heard I could get through the good content in a month. And the app is good enough as is. 

I will take a look at that.  Atm we used “score anything” for recording points etc.