Less is More? Writing tips?

[Adeptekon]

I stop reading a lot of fan fiction for some of these reasons (watch me make some of these mistakes)

 

My aversion to tedium bloat as she describes in the first mistake is so strong that my own writing might suffer from being too thin.

 

That said what do you all think of these "mistakes"?

 

 

Edited October 30 by Adeptekon

[thomaswilliams]

Your point about overcorrecting toward thin writing is worth taking seriously. Trimming tedium can easily slide into stripping out the texture that makes a scene feel lived-in, and readers notice when a story is all momentum and no substance. The trick is separating bloat from detail that actually earns its place. A scene can be lean and still breathe if what remains carries weight. I would rather read something slightly too spare than something that repeats itself, but the ideal sits between the two extremes. How do you decide which details are load-bearing when you revise?

[Lathe Biosas]

The current trend of "simpler sentences," is based on the concept of flowery language, em dashes, and descriptive detail is all a sign of AI written or AI polished writing, and a lot of folks are over correcting.

 

I'm in the opposite field right now. My novella is up against a deadline for a Christmas release, and I'm adding additional words and chapters before it goes to the printers. 

 

The goal of your writing is that your target audience finds the story readable and enjoyable. 

[kabaakaba]

I don't really understand why people write so briefly now. I mean, the texts are a bit too action packed. no descriptions. short chopped sentences. he run. sun shine. rose is red. The participial and adverbial participial phrases are dead. any description is so short it's more like I read historical chronicles. and iirc it's not like it's caused by AI hatred, it is this way for quite some time. And that ain't English only problem. my main language suffer even more of this tendency. It's a quiet normal to have 10-15 words in sentence, but now it's 5-7. like most authors turned neanderthals one day.

Edited November 1 by kabaakaba

[Spite]

One of my least favorite "writing" "content creators" on that platform.

 

In my humble opinion, writing is not constrained to "bloat" or being "too thin". It's about the content and your prose.

 

Overwhelmingly, I think most people suffer from a lack of exposure to more than just a handful of writers/media. Your reach should be far and well varied. Exploring different mediums and genres is how your writing tends to be more impactful, as well as having a personal "flare" or nuance or niche, etc.

 

Secondly, WH40k fanfic suffers from one of three things; Firstly, bolter porn for the sake of being bolter porn. Writing in this sandbox ultimately leads to "AND THE SPACE MARINE STOOD ON A PILE OF CORPSES AND FIRED HIS BOLTER UNTIL IT WAS EMPTY OR THERE WERE MORE CORPSES." Boring, boring, boring. Secondly, the "fanfic" issue. "What if Guillamen was actually ROOMMATES with Cawl and they KISSED and made a ton of PRIMARIS?!?!?!?!". While, to be fair, this is where fan fiction has its basis in, and unfortunately those stories will ALWAYS pull more than actual attempts, it is still one of my least favorite aspects of attempting to interact with other peoples' writing. Third, the lack of anything interesting to tell. Cool, you made your own Chapter, and they have a cool name, and, oh wow! They're ran by a secretive organization that has its origins in a Traitor Legion? How original! The 3 Greats of the Black Library typically do NOT write about the standard story beats you'll see other WH40k novels hit, they instead, focus on something DIFFERENT or INTERESTING happening INSIDE of the sandbox/medium that makes it worth the time or effort.

 

And all of this isn't even to bring in the sad, pathetic, cuckoldry of most of everyone (this forum included) using AI to make even more uninteresting, boring bolter porn. 

 

TLDR; Make GOOD content, using your human imagination. Don't make "LoTR/Marvel/Halo/Hell Divers/[insert anime here] but 40k. AI is for losers and cucks. 

Edited November 3 by Spite
typos, less spite

[Adeptekon]

On 11/3/2026 at 10:05 AM, Spite said:

One of my least favorite "writing" "content creators" on that platform.

 

In my humble opinion, writing is not constrained to "bloat" or being "too thin". It's about the content and your prose.

 

Overwhelmingly, I think most people suffer from a lack of exposure to more than just a handful of writers/media. Your reach should be far and well varied. Exploring different mediums and genres is how your writing tends to be more impactful, as well as having a personal "flare" or nuance or niche, etc.

 

Secondly, WH40k fanfic suffers from one of three things; Firstly, bolter porn for the sake of being bolter porn. Writing in this sandbox ultimately leads to "AND THE SPACE MARINE STOOD ON A PILE OF CORPSES AND FIRED HIS BOLTER UNTIL IT WAS EMPTY OR THERE WERE MORE CORPSES." Boring, boring, boring. Secondly, the "fanfic" issue. "What if Guillamen was actually ROOMMATES with Cawl and they KISSED and made a ton of PRIMARIS?!?!?!?!". While, to be fair, this is where fan fiction has its basis in, and unfortunately those stories will ALWAYS pull more than actual attempts, it is still one of my least favorite aspects of attempting to interact with other peoples' writing. Third, the lack of anything interesting to tell. Cool, you made your own Chapter, and they have a cool name, and, oh wow! They're ran by a secretive organization that has its origins in a Traitor Legion? How original! The 3 Greats of the Black Library typically do NOT write about the standard story beats you'll see other WH40k novels hit, they instead, focus on something DIFFERENT or INTERESTING happening INSIDE of the sandbox/medium that makes it worth the time or effort.

 

And all of this isn't even to bring in the sad, pathetic, cuckoldry of most of everyone (this forum included) using AI to make even more uninteresting, boring bolter porn. 

 

TLDR; Make GOOD content, using your human imagination. Don't make "LoTR/Marvel/Halo/Hell Divers/[insert anime here] but 40k. AI is for losers and cucks. 

You should probably tone it down a bit friend. I didn't open this topic to start slinging mud at others' writing or lack there of, but for constructive discussion.

 

Yes you can have strong feelings with out name calling. 

 

I challenge you to a little self awareness of your own writing. What are some things you have struggled with through the years before you reached the level of perfection you have today?

[Lathe Biosas]

Oh. I forgot the other bit that reduced flowery sentences to very simple sentences....

 

The Earle Stanley Gardner of the 21st Century: James Patterson. 

 

Patterson reduced chapter size, reduced word difficulty, dumbed down plots, etc.

 

Patterson (one of the most influential writers of the modern era) changed the way that editors and publishers look at books.

 

I recently had a manuscript returned to me, and it was pointed out that the story was aimed at someone with a 10th grade reading level. I was told that is wayyy to high for today's mystery readers. It needs to be around 5-6th grade at the highest.

 

I've had to remove "unfamiliar words and phrases." It's all so sad, but I need money.

[Adeptekon]

7 minutes ago, Lathe Biosas said:

I've had to remove "unfamiliar words and phrases." It's all so sad, but I need money.

That is sad, but thank you for that bit of trivia. Reminds of John Taylor Gatto's "Dumbing Us Down" (1992), he's a bit of firebrand for some, but has some points about institutionalized schooling.

[Spite]

On 11/5/2026 at 5:54 PM, Adeptekon said:

You should probably tone it down a bit friend. I didn't open this topic to start slinging mud at others' writing or lack there of, but for constructive discussion.

 

Yes you can have strong feelings with out name calling. 

 

I challenge you to a little self awareness of your own writing. What are some things you have struggled with through the years before you reached the level of perfection you have today?

 

Bold, as you are one of the AI writers that the front page is currently suffering through.

 

Since we were apes in caves, we have had the innate ability to write and compose stories, and yet, some of you feel the need to post your AI prompts and claim them to be "fanfiction" or "stories". 

 

I challenge you to a little creativity and humanity. The sandbox you inhabit literally has it in solid lore that the crutch you require is abominable. That is what is also known as "irony".

 

To the poor Admin who will inevitably have to suffer through this turgid response, you have my sympathies and am fully aware of how I come across. It's intentional. 

 

Ave Imperator. Ave spite. 

[Adeptekon]

10 hours ago, Spite said:

 

Bold, as you are one of the AI writers that the front page is currently suffering through.

 

Since we were apes in caves, we have had the innate ability to write and compose stories, and yet, some of you feel the need to post your AI prompts and claim them to be "fanfiction" or "stories". 

 

I challenge you to a little creativity and humanity. The sandbox you inhabit literally has it in solid lore that the crutch you require is abominable. That is what is also known as "irony".

 

To the poor Admin who will inevitably have to suffer through this turgid response, you have my sympathies and am fully aware of how I come across. It's intentional. 

 

Ave Imperator. Ave spite. 

Not bold. The process of writing is an evolution. Do you have an editor that's given you any feedback or were you born with a pen in hand writing the classics?

 

The front page is suffering? Please explain. @Brother Tyler if there is something I'm doing that is hurting the site please let me know.

 

Let's clear the air, but before we go into it. There is absolutely no shame in using AI as a writing tool. I use AI to varying degrees, however my work is largely edited by myself. Why? Because often times if you ask it to produce something without training it, the LLM returns what people refer to as slop which is essentially a generic response to what it feels would be readable to most people. You might refer to it as cheesy or predictable.

 

I however have hundreds of hours in these writings. AI helps me reach that point through research, brainstorming, and proof reading, much like an editor would do. I also use it to perform originality checks and source reviews to help keep me from going off the rails with it.

 

Much like you or anyone else might do using a search engine and clicking on each link by hand and then reading through the links one by one hoping you find what you are looking for. With an AI query I can do that ten-fold and still get all the sources laid out before me with a summary of key takes that I might be seeking. This saves me time, and time is something we have less of in our later years my brother. 

 

Which makes more sense in a marathon? Running shoes or clod hoppers?

 

Now let's clear up something else.

 

1. My homebrew found in Black Templars subforum (Exonerator) was posted on DakkaDakka 2023/03/07 long before I had even touched AI outside of a search engine, and you can see as well on that site I edited this story 93 times so no easy button prompt there. I used AI to check for duplicated words, and arrangement, but kept approximately 90% of the original writing which is all me.

 

I've also been honest when asked by the process of generating names in that story by @Night Lords Pete. I have no shame in doing it. I don't think one needs to be too concerned whether I used a 40k name generator from 20 years ago that picked random names for me or if I got much more specific in my attempt to capture Germanic and Italian names, with or without the individual life histories of every member of the chapter. I'd be willing to bet Gamesworkshop has been pulling names out of a hat for decades.

 

I have other writing in the fiction section that I used AI to help me clarify lore the before I dive in and get my thoughts out. Those were prompt driven, and rewritten by yours truly. You think this is simple it is not. I've had much of these things in my head for years and AI has helped me get them out as it is a tool much like anything else.

 

2. The Imperial Schism: Return of Rogal Dorn and The Imperial Truth, yeah that's mostly me with AI checking the lore for accuracy. You can see the evolution of where I started with this one from my original post on Heresy-Online in Jun 5, 2023.

 

3. ☩ FAMA FRATERNITATIS ❀ THE ROSICRUCIANS ☩, prompt driven and rewritten this is probably closer to an 50/50 split, when it comes to arrangement and direction that's all me, I've read the manifestos have you? Individual passages may be prompted and rewritten by me.

 

4. Perhaps and A Manifestation of The God Emperor on Old Terra (also started out on Heresy-Online Feb 7, 2026 before I joined B&C) is about 70% AI / 30% myself. I've had these concepts in mind for years. AI helped me put it together, but you should be able to see the difference between that post, Exonerator and the Return of Rogal Dorn if you're looking closing. 

 

5. The Origin of The Lion, and The First Legionary. That's a primarily joke and not very clever. I didn't need AI to assist with that. I used it as always to check lore.

 

Am I defending automated slop? Absolutely not. It would pay yourself to understand the difference as the world operates with AI in nearly all facets of society today which you are apart of including cancer research. There is no going back unless one chooses to live off grid and in one of those caves as you say. 

 

So there's no shame in using AI to assist you in writing and firming up your ideas and it's fairly easy to tell the difference. In cases were it's not someone has likely trained the LLM quite well and so what?

 

Lastly I am curious what is it about all this that triggers you? How does it impact you or your writing? I'm not competing with you for a book deal. Everyone and their mother is writing books these days well before AI assistance and quite frankly lots of it wasn't very interesting. Does it bother me? Not at all.

 

Am I offended you can't tell what's by my hand? Sure to a degree, but I have to let that go and I sugest you do that same because I'm not out say what I'm producing is better than yours or anyone else's. I'm doing this as a pasttime.

 
 

 

Edited yesterday at 03:09 AM by Adeptekon

[Night Lords Pete]

<Slinks out of the shadows to give my unsolicited view…>
 

Just popped on here as I was tagged and some interesting points.

On 11/1/2026 at 6:55 AM, Lathe Biosas said:

The goal of your writing is that your target audience finds the story readable and enjoyable. 

I 100% agree that with fiction the goal is usually someone’s enjoyment, or if writing something heavier and with more weight, at the very least engagement.

 

What and how you write should change based on what your goal is - for example my primary goal for the short vignettes I have put up on here is my own enjoyment. If others enjoy them that is great, and it’s nice to share them, however the point I stop enjoying the writing, I should probably stop the posting. This is supposed to be a fun hobby for me!

 

This is different to if someone is having something published in which case there is usually going to be a requirement to give wider appeal and adjusting and editing what is published as @Lathe Biosas talks about.

 

On 11/3/2026 at 4:05 PM, Spite said:

Your reach should be far and well varied. Exploring different mediums and genres is how your writing tends to be more impactful, as well as having a personal "flare" or nuance or niche, etc.

I agree with this as well, reading (or audio or however) widely will give exposure to different styles, ideas, approaches etc. and all of these are valuable to sharpen writing. I try and read from different genres, however also will put a book down if after 50-100 pages I’m not feeling it.

Shorter simpler sentences is an interesting one as this can be stylistic (action should often be shorter to make it feel dynamic), dependent on the media (on a site like this big text blocks can be off putting), or simply be because someone needs a nice easy book after a hard day where their brain is tired.

 

Overall, in terms of posting on here, if someone is enjoying the writing, if however they do it encourages them to be creative and have fun, that’s a positive.

 

<Slinks back into the shadows from whence I came…>

[Spite]

10 hours ago, Adeptekon said:

Not bold. The process of writing is an evolution. Do you have an editor that's given you any feedback or were you born with a pen in hand writing the classics?

 

The front page is suffering? Please explain. @Brother Tyler if there is something I'm doing that is hurting the site please let me know.

 

Let's clear the air, but before we go into it. There is absolutely no shame in using AI as a writing tool. I use AI to varying degrees, however my work is largely edited by myself. Why? Because often times if you ask it to produce something without training it, the LLM returns what people refer to as slop which is essentially a generic response to what it feels would be readable to most people. You might refer to it as cheesy or predictable.

 

I however have hundreds of hours in these writings. AI helps me reach that point through research, brainstorming, and proof reading, much like an editor would do. I also use it to perform originality checks and source reviews to help keep me from going off the rails with it.

 

Much like you or anyone else might do using a search engine and clicking on each link by hand and then reading through the links one by one hoping you find what you are looking for. With an AI query I can do that ten-fold and still get all the sources laid out before me with a summary of key takes that I might be seeking. This saves me time, and time is something we have less of in our later years my brother. 

 

Which makes more sense in a marathon? Running shoes or clod hoppers?

 

Now let's clear up something else.

 

1. My homebrew found in Black Templars subforum (Exonerator) was posted on DakkaDakka 2023/03/07 long before I had even touched AI outside of a search engine, and you can see as well on that site I edited this story 93 times so no easy button prompt there. I used AI to check for duplicated words, and arrangement, but kept approximately 90% of the original writing which is all me.

 

I've also been honest when asked by the process of generating names in that story by @Night Lords Pete. I have no shame in doing it. I don't think one needs to be too concerned whether I used a 40k name generator from 20 years ago that picked random names for me or if I got much more specific in my attempt to capture Germanic and Italian names, with or without the individual life histories of every member of the chapter. I'd be willing to bet Gamesworkshop has been pulling names out of a hat for decades.

 

I have other writing in the fiction section that I used AI to help me clarify lore the before I dive in and get my thoughts out. Those were prompt driven, and rewritten by yours truly. You think this is simple it is not. I've had much of these things in my head for years and AI has helped me get them out as it is a tool much like anything else.

 

2. The Imperial Schism: Return of Rogal Dorn and The Imperial Truth, yeah that's mostly me with AI checking the lore for accuracy. You can see the evolution of where I started with this one from my original post on Heresy-Online in Jun 5, 2023.

 

3. ☩ FAMA FRATERNITATIS ❀ THE ROSICRUCIANS ☩, prompt driven and rewritten this is probably closer to an 50/50 split, when it comes to arrangement and direction that's all me, I've read the manifestos have you? Individual passages may be prompted and rewritten by me.

 

4. Perhaps and A Manifestation of The God Emperor on Old Terra (also started out on Heresy-Online Feb 7, 2026 before I joined B&C) is about 70% AI / 30% myself. I've had these concepts in mind for years. AI helped me put it together, but you should be able to see the difference between that post, Exonerator and the Return of Rogal Dorn if you're looking closing. 

 

5. The Origin of The Lion, and The First Legionary. That's a primarily joke and not very clever. I didn't need AI to assist with that. I used it as always to check lore.

 

Am I defending automated slop? Absolutely not. It would pay yourself to understand the difference as the world operates with AI in nearly all facets of society today which you are apart of including cancer research. There is no going back unless one chooses to live off grid and in one of those caves as you say. 

 

So there's no shame in using AI to assist you in writing and firming up your ideas and it's fairly easy to tell the difference. In cases were it's not someone has likely trained the LLM quite well and so what?

 

Lastly I am curious what is it about all this that triggers you? How does it impact you or your writing? I'm not competing with you for a book deal. Everyone and their mother is writing books these days well before AI assistance and quite frankly lots of it wasn't very interesting. Does it bother me? Not at all.

 

Am I offended you can't tell what's by my hand? Sure to a degree, but I have to let that go and I sugest you do that same because I'm not out say what I'm producing is better than yours or anyone else's. I'm doing this as a pasttime.

 
 

 

Sad, shameful, pathetic.

 

All of this for you to say, "Yes I can't write, and no I'm not ashamed that I lack the art that mankind has possessed since the dawn of our species." 

 

Continue to pretend and make believe, but your lack of such a human characteristic and the vehement need to justify/validate yourself and go into gross detail as to how and why you use AI to write WARHAMMER FANFICTION is a humiliation ritual I will no longer be participating in with you. 

 

You are unworthy of my spite.

 

Ave Imperator. Ave spite.

Edited yesterday at 12:25 PM by Spite
typos, more spite.

[Spite]

6 hours ago, Night Lords Pete said:

Overall, in terms of posting on here, if someone is enjoying the writing, if however they do it encourages them to be creative and have fun, that’s a positive.

 

 

If someone is enjoying writing, I fully agree. Posting a mass generated gestalt prompt, regardless of its percentile involvement in the "writing", is not writing. 

 

I, as well as many others, are not interested in what an algorithmic system generator are able to vomit. I, me, personally, want to see someone's schizophrenic ramblings of a long beloved idea or theory or want or desire for something to be written (however poorly) and to be able to digest.

 

We are all capable of asking Chatgpt to write and edit the exact same stories, many of those are currently taking up space in the forum right this moment. 

 

Thank you for your take, you do not need to slink into any shadows. Just because I am confrontationally oppositional, or what lesser minds would consider "triggered", doesn't mean I'm unwelcoming of a similarly oppositional view. 

 

Ave Imperator. Ave spite. 

 

[Adeptekon]

1 hour ago, Spite said:

Sad, shameful, pathetic.

 

All of this for you to say, "Yes I can't write, and no I'm not ashamed that I lack the art that mankind has possessed since the dawn of our species." 

 

Continue to pretend and make believe, but your lack of such a human characteristic and the vehement need to justify/validate yourself and go into gross detail as to how and why you use AI to write WARHAMMER FANFICTION is a humiliation ritual I will no longer be participating in with you. 

 

You are unworthy of my spite.

 

Ave Imperator. Ave spite.

 

1 hour ago, Spite said:

 

If someone is enjoying writing, I fully agree. Posting a mass generated gestalt prompt, regardless of its percentile involvement in the "writing", is not writing. 

 

I, as well as many others, are not interested in what an algorithmic system generator are able to vomit. I, me, personally, want to see someone's schizophrenic ramblings of a long beloved idea or theory or want or desire for something to be written (however poorly) and to be able to digest.

 

We are all capable of asking Chatgpt to write and edit the exact same stories, many of those are currently taking up space in the forum right this moment. 

 

Thank you for your take, you do not need to slink into any shadows. Just because I am confrontationally oppositional, or what lesser minds would consider "triggered", doesn't mean I'm unwelcoming of a similarly oppositional view. 

 

Ave Imperator. Ave spite. 

 

The ad hominem attacks are over the top mate for the *I won't touch AI as a tool* is extreme and really what's shameful and immature.

 

You clearly didn't spend any time reading my reply, which speak volumes, but I digress again, I didn't open this topic to start a war with other members.

 

Yes the works are my brain children and stylistically my own by and large. You assumed they were churned out within the last few months since I joined. They were not and I showed it. For some background I was game mastering as a teenager, I've run an online campaign in 2010 in narrative forum. I'm a world builder and this isn't my first time publishing things on boards. My writing is largely the same since 2010. I'm not a frequent writer, and the time I have now is not spent in toiling over it, but enjoyment of the production. I toil elsewhere to live.

 

I realize writing is a livelihood for some @Lathe Biosas so if my comments came off insensitive to that my mistake.

 

On topic with this discussion I'm am happy to go over responsible use of AI and tips that I've learned to help you through the process of writing as a tool, not a crutch.

 

My comment about "so what" was that the hot take against any and all AI is extreme, we're steeped in it, think of it as a one source spell check, search engine, and grammarly, thesarus, dictionary with advice.

 

I mean everything we use now are methods to manage, create and produce. Because back in the day less fortunate individuals walked 10 miles to school in the snow with no shoes shouldn't have to be the marker of worth, but the quality of the content you produce instead.

 

I do not prompt: "write me a cool story bro", and then go back and edit it. I write something, and I ask it just like you would ask a human editor where I can improve it. Often times there is no improvement, sometimes there is no differently than an editor proofing your work before it hits the publisher.

 

If I'm stuck on an idea, I may ask it to produce something as a way forward (also in-keeping with the topic), just one possible way that I then rework or cast out entirely. But it is a dialog that happens it is Not a magical prompt. It is a way of testing ideas and refining line by line paragraph by paragraph. Just as you would alone with yourself.

 

So let me only retract one thing which if it wasn't clear enough that I do not support automation, that "so what" was referring to fanfiction, not commercially published, and posted on the forum which you can easily ignore and very easily spot.

 

You @Spite on the other hand already formed a judgement about me based upon my open use of AI imagry and likely other admissions I've made. You could have asked me politiely under any of my posts. I post these here to share and for criticism so feel free, but if you're just going to attack, name call and judge based upon your incorrect preconceptions then I'll just begin to report them. I'm giving you a place to speak here on something you feel strongly about.

 

Also for staff, I feel this is on topic, and a discussion that needs to be had.

 

There is no place for censorship of expression and bullying on a community board simply because one can't find better words or constructive ways of conveying their feelings.

Please do not lock, if certain things such as derogatory comments need moderated sure, but I think brother @Spite has some valid concerns which should be heard.

Now, going forward I'm going to ask you to stop the ad hominem one last time. I realize subject of AI has a whole is controversial, I do not want to get into the politics here, but do want to get in the ways it can help people express their visions or even ways it can't.

Edited yesterday at 01:50 PM by Adeptekon

[Spite]

2 hours ago, Adeptekon said:

 

The ad hominem attacks are over the top mate for the *I won't touch AI as a tool* is extreme and really what's shameful and immature.

 

You clearly didn't spend any time reading my reply, which speak volumes, but I digress again, I didn't open this topic to start a war with other members.

 

Yes the works are my brain children and stylistically my own by and large. You assumed they were churned out within the last few months since I joined. They were not and I showed it. For some background I was game mastering as a teenager, I've run an online campaign in 2010 in narrative forum. I'm a world builder and this isn't my first time publishing things on boards. My writing is largely the same since 2010. I'm not a frequent writer, and the time I have now is not spent in toiling over it, but enjoyment of the production. I toil elsewhere to live.

 

I realize writing is a livelihood for some @Lathe Biosas so if my comments came off insensitive to that my mistake.

 

On topic with this discussion I'm am happy to go over responsible use of AI and tips that I've learned to help you through the process of writing as a tool, not a crutch.

 

My comment about "so what" was that the hot take against any and all AI is extreme, we're steeped in it, think of it as a one source spell check, search engine, and grammarly, thesarus, dictionary with advice.

 

I mean everything we use now are methods to manage, create and produce. Because back in the day less fortunate individuals walked 10 miles to school in the snow with no shoes shouldn't have to be the marker of worth, but the quality of the content you produce instead.

 

I do not prompt: "write me a cool story bro", and then go back and edit it. I write something, and I ask it just like you would ask a human editor where I can improve it. Often times there is no improvement, sometimes there is no differently than an editor proofing your work before it hits the publisher.

 

If I'm stuck on an idea, I may ask it to produce something as a way forward (also in-keeping with the topic), just one possible way that I then rework or cast out entirely. But it is a dialog that happens it is Not a magical prompt. It is a way of testing ideas and refining line by line paragraph by paragraph. Just as you would alone with yourself.

 

So let me only retract one thing which if it wasn't clear enough that I do not support automation, that "so what" was referring to fanfiction, not commercially published, and posted on the forum which you can easily ignore and very easily spot.

 

You @Spite on the other hand already formed a judgement about me based upon my open use of AI imagry and likely other admissions I've made. You could have asked me politiely under any of my posts. I post these here to share and for criticism so feel free, but if you're just going to attack, name call and judge based upon your incorrect preconceptions then I'll just begin to report them. I'm giving you a place to speak here on something you feel strongly about.

 

Also for staff, I feel this is on topic, and a discussion that needs to be had.

 

There is no place for censorship of expression and bullying on a community board simply because one can't find better words or constructive ways of conveying their feelings.

Please do not lock, if certain things such as derogatory comments need moderated sure, but I think brother @Spite has some valid concerns which should be heard.

Now, going forward I'm going to ask you to stop the ad hominem one last time. I realize subject of AI has a whole is controversial, I do not want to get into the politics here, but do want to get in the ways it can help people express their visions or even ways it can't.

 

Your severe lack of understanding is painfully apparent, as if we'd like to address the "ad hominin", your need to over explain and digress over why you absolutely apparently NEED the use of AI, and then attack me and also insinuate that I'm afraid or incapable of using it is something I already mentioned. 

23 hours ago, Spite said:

That is what is also known as "irony".

 

"Irony" is a writer's tool, something you probably need to familiarize yourself with if you're going to just make a poor and fumbling attempt of it.

 

No, I didn't bother to read more than the opening of your other post, because I'm uninterested in the AI generated response. You've publicly and loudly demonstrated your preening worship of it, so why would I consider anything at all that you post or comment or reply with to be anything else? 

 

As you seem to need to @ multiple members to, what I can only assume is help validate your small little opinion, I'll happily leave you to your peacocking. You're very obviously incapable of criticism, or frankly, anything that isn't immediately receptive to your own ideas. I gather that's why you publish so, so many posts within this forum that aren't stories. 

 

2 hours ago, Adeptekon said:

If I'm stuck on an idea, I may ask it to produce something as a way forward (also in-keeping with the topic), just one possible way that I then rework or cast out entirely. But it is a dialog that happens it is Not a magical prompt. It is a way of testing ideas and refining line by line paragraph by paragraph. Just as you would alone with yourself.

 

 

"Computah, pwease genewate Marvel Avenger as Space Mawine". Yeah, I'm aware you do. It's evident in the Copy+Paste (read:writing) you do. 

 

2 hours ago, Adeptekon said:

So let me only retract one thing which if it wasn't clear enough that I do not support automation, that "so what" was referring to fanfiction, not commercially published, and posted on the forum which you can easily ignore and very easily spot.

 

 

Again, so painfully obvious that you exist as a tourist in the medium. "So what if fanfiction is randomly generated without thought, heart, purpose, or a spine?". What are you even doing LARPing in here then if you're unwilling to put in the effort and time that has existed, NOT ONLY, within the medium of fanfiction, but again, as a species. 

 

2 hours ago, Adeptekon said:

You @Spite on the other hand already formed a judgement about me based upon my open use of AI imagry and likely other admissions I've made. You could have asked me politiely under any of my posts. I post these here to share and for criticism so feel free, but if you're just going to attack, name call and judge based upon your incorrect preconceptions then I'll just begin to report them. I'm giving you a place to speak here on something you feel strongly about.

 

 

I use multiple AI detection tools when combing through this forum. You flag every. single. time. That's why I never comment or read your..."stories". 

 

YOU asked for tips. Nowhere in my original response did I mention you at all. Anywhere. This entire humiliation ritual you're desperate for is nothing more than a public self admittance. I offered a genuine take, and axiom that have been spoken about in writing by the very authors you plagiarize via the use of your "tool". You saw my distaste for the use of random generation in a human only space, and felt attacked, because you lack.

 

2 hours ago, Adeptekon said:

There is no place for censorship of expression and bullying on a community board simply because one can't find better words or constructive ways of conveying their feelings.

Please do not lock, if certain things such as derogatory comments need moderated sure, but I think brother @Spite has some valid concerns which should be heard.

Now, going forward I'm going to ask you to stop the ad hominem one last time. I realize subject of AI has a whole is controversial, I do not want to get into the politics here, but do want to get in the ways it can help people express their visions or even ways it can't.

 

Har har. Har. Har har har. Wheeze. Har. 

 

Ave Imperator. Ave spite. 

Death to the heretic. 

[Adeptekon]

9 hours ago, Spite said:

 

Your severe lack of understanding is painfully apparent, as if we'd like to address the "ad hominin", your need to over explain and digress over why you absolutely apparently NEED the use of AI, and then attack me and also insinuate that I'm afraid or incapable of using it is something I already mentioned. 

 

"Irony" is a writer's tool, something you probably need to familiarize yourself with if you're going to just make a poor and fumbling attempt of it.

 

No, I didn't bother to read more than the opening of your other post, because I'm uninterested in the AI generated response. You've publicly and loudly demonstrated your preening worship of it, so why would I consider anything at all that you post or comment or reply with to be anything else? 

 

As you seem to need to @ multiple members to, what I can only assume is help validate your small little opinion, I'll happily leave you to your peacocking. You're very obviously incapable of criticism, or frankly, anything that isn't immediately receptive to your own ideas. I gather that's why you publish so, so many posts within this forum that aren't stories. 

 

 

"Computah, pwease genewate Marvel Avenger as Space Mawine". Yeah, I'm aware you do. It's evident in the Copy+Paste (read:writing) you do. 

 

 

Again, so painfully obvious that you exist as a tourist in the medium. "So what if fanfiction is randomly generated without thought, heart, purpose, or a spine?". What are you even doing LARPing in here then if you're unwilling to put in the effort and time that has existed, NOT ONLY, within the medium of fanfiction, but again, as a species. 

 

 

I use multiple AI detection tools when combing through this forum. You flag every. single. time. That's why I never comment or read your..."stories". 

 

YOU asked for tips. Nowhere in my original response did I mention you at all. Anywhere. This entire humiliation ritual you're desperate for is nothing more than a public self admittance. I offered a genuine take, and axiom that have been spoken about in writing by the very authors you plagiarize via the use of your "tool". You saw my distaste for the use of random generation in a human only space, and felt attacked, because you lack.

 

 

Har har. Har. Har har har. Wheeze. Har. 

 

Ave Imperator. Ave spite. 

Death to the heretic. 

So this has escalated from false claims to now death threats? I mean for someone not "larping" am I to take you seriously?

[Brother Tyler]

Time out