Right, Thats It

[++Brazen--Eagles++]

Ok. After painting up a combat squad of Brazen Eagles i have decided that the :P aint to good so ive got two options.

 

1. Get the Brazens lost the warp and start collecting a new army

2. Change the colour scheme (and name and fluff... :P looks like the first option it is...

 

Any way so i have three ideas for a new army.

 

1. Siege specialist succesors of the Imperial Fists

2. Assault specialist succesors of the Blood Angels (complete with Death Company and all)

3. A Chaos force.

 

I just wanted to see what u all think i should do (for some strange reason ive come to trust all of ur opinions :P )

 

Any help is welcomed

 

 

No longer ++ Eagle Out ++

[Ferrata]

Well, we really cant tell you which army you will have the most fun out of. BUt if you tell us why you dropped the Brazen Eagles. Was it their style of play, colour scheme, fluff etc

 

Ferrata

[Race Bannon]

If you think about it ... the last three options are like the second of the first two ... ::cuss: ... right. Yeah.

 

SOOOO - I agree with Ferrata.

 

BUUUT - if you like the Brazen Eagles thing just not the colors then just change the colors. You already put work into the BE, why start over *everything*?

[++Brazen--Eagles++]

Ok, after paying attention to the advice from Ferrata and Race Bannon i have decided to stick with the Brazen Eagles (with a possible renaming on the way) but just mess around with their fluff and Colour scheme (u have just gotta love Inks!!)

 

No longer the Close Combat blins killers that they once were, the Brazen Eagles have been completely revamped... Just as a side note, Reaper Prime is the same as Jupiter (just a swirling ball of gas) which is why the chapter has taken up residency on one of its moons....

 

any way... enough talking... heres their Origins

 

Origins: Far to the Galactic West is the area of space known as the Halo Stars, a collection of some of the oldest stars in the galaxy. In the Star Clusters around this ancient area is the Ork Empire of Protoss. Although very little is known of this Empire it was considered a high military threat as the Ork Warlord Grimkull launched a fleet of Ork ships into the nearby sub-sector of Reaper.

One world after another fell to the Orks until they were halted by a fleet of the Imperial Fists second company. Pleading to the High Lords for reinforcements, the Imperial Fists were reaching the limits of their endurance, barely holding out against the waves of Greenskins.

For a further five years Reaper was only just holding on to Imperial control until the Imperial Fists were reinforced by a new chapter. Their first engagement saw extreme success, along with their Imperial Fist allies they battered the Orks back and out of Reaper. Although they had sustained great losses themselves, the war was considered a mighty victory and the new chapter was basically given Lenico, one of Reaper Primes Moons, with which they made a base and home.

 

Let me know wot u think

[Ferrata]

Ok, after paying attention to the advice from Ferrata and Race Bannon i have decided to stick with the Brazen Eagles (with a possible renaming on the way) but just mess around with their fluff and Colour scheme (u have just gotta love Inks!!)

Well, Im glad someone listens to me :lol:

 

Pleading to the High Lords for reinforcements, the Imperial Fists were reaching the limits of their endurance, barely holding out against the waves of Greenskins.

 

Pleading doesnt sound very Imperial Fisty to me, maybe change it to "Requested". This seems to fit the Fists more then begging :(

 

the new chapter was basically given Lenico, one of Reaper Primes Moons, with which they made a base and home.

Drop the word "basically", its not needed. Its quite normal for chapters to be granted planets/satilites for its homeworld.

 

Let me know wot u think

 

Good besides that last sentance, which should be

Let me know what you think :P

 

Ferrata :o

[Daeothar]

Nice work so far.

 

One or two remarks/questions though;

 

The Halo stars, as far as I know, have never been colonized or thoroughly explored as even Lord Solar Macharius eventually returned unsuccesfully from them, as he kept encountering 'creatures too terrible and vast to even mention'. Also, I though the Halo stars are basically all the stars of the Galaxy that are outside of the Galactic arms, forming a halo if you will around the known galaxy; they're far between and considered to be not worth the effort of proper exploration. Some Rogue Traders might venture that way though.

 

So, what's so important over there for a company of a first founding chapter and later an entire new chapter to defend? As I explained, these systems are not even colonized by the Imperium (yet).

 

And did the chapter not have a homeworld already? They were at full strength when deployed at Reaper so they must have been well established already.

 

Other than those little snags, I think your guys are pretty well on their way. What will be their inclination now, that they no longer are geared towards CC? Will they be purely codex?

 

And what's wrong with the name Brazen Eagles anyway? :lol:

[++Brazen--Eagles++]

Hmmmm.... Yes i see ur point(s).

 

First to Ferrata

- Will change "Pleading" to requested (or another word that fits appropriately)

- Again will drop any inapropriate wording

 

Good besides that last sentance, which should be

Let me know what you think

Har Har very well :P

 

 

Now to Daeothar

- Right well i think ill have to change that bit then... Although i dont think i said that they were 'In' the Halo Stars just that they were in space around them. And ill have to come up with some more detailed fluff about why the Fists were there and why a new chapter was assigned to protect the area.

 

  And did the chapter not have a homeworld already? They were at full strength when deployed at Reaper so they must have been well established already.

 

Again ill have to rephrase some of these bits but... Yes the chapter did not have a homeworld already. And ill change it so they werent at full strength when deployed at Reaper.

 

 

And now that they are not geared towards CC i am going for a fairly standard Codex force. But that may change after a few battles when i see how they perform.

 

Thanks for your comments so far

 

 

++ Eagle Out ++

 

P.s Actually now that i think about it... there is nothing wrong with the name Brazen Eagles... Ok the name will stay :lol:

[Cpt_Tiberius]

Maybe the fists found something on one of the planets out there they were afraid someone would get ahold of (such as a necron tomb world, eldar warp gate, etc.) It has to be something that can't be moved or destroyed. So whatever Imperial representative was with them on the mission (Maybe an Ordo Xenos Inquisitor or something to that effect) Sent their report to the High Lords ,or what not, and expressed the danger of the artifact(s)/World. So they found the Brazen Eagles to basically guard whatever it is and keep the Orks and other nasties from making use of it.

 

As far as the chapter name goes I really like it. Do you have a chapter badge or color scheme yet? If you don't have a badge, you could go with an eagle head, they are actually not to hard to freehand and you can use the awesome new Forge World termi pads for your elites if you can get them.

[Daeothar]

Those, and the FW doors; those are ace too! :P

 

Good idea... :lol:

[++Brazen--Eagles++]

Ok....

 

Maybe the fists found something on one of the planets out there they were afraid someone would get ahold of (such as a necron tomb world, eldar warp gate, etc.)

I like that idea... thanks for that.. ill be adding that to their fluff... now!! :lol:

 

And i actually had the forgeworld parts in mind when i came up with the name so even if i was going to change it i would've kept an eagle in the name any way...

Glad u like the name as well, im actually starting to see it working!

 

 

++ Eagle Out ++

[Cpt_Tiberius]

I think "Brazen" is an awesome descriptor as it can imply both something made of brass (hinting at metal and mechanics) as well as someone who is brash (hinting at rash thinking and hot-headedness)

 

Plus Eagles are cool...so there you go.

 

If you would like I can show an example of one of my Black Consul chapter badges and explain how I freehand them.

[++Brazen--Eagles++]

Rite here we go with some longish Origins of the Brazen Eagles, ive changed it around again and added necrons... :D

 

Hope u like it

 

 

Origins: The Halo Stars. For two thousand years they had been considered unimportant, dead space and not worth the effort of colonizing. Though that all changed in the early years of the thirty-seventh millennium. A fleet of the Imperial Navy had been heading through Warp Space when an interference brought them suddenly back to the Material Realm.

 

Out in unknown space, the fleet quickly tried to access communication links to any Imperial Ships nearby. When no one responded, the fleet stayed anchored in space over a unknown planets moon, unsure of what action to take. For three months the ships were immobile until they were suddenly attacked by unknown ships.

 

Losing half of their ships before they could properly form up, the ships sent out a desperate plea for help to any one that could hear them. Their pleas were answered by a small portion of the Imperial Fists second company which found the Navy Ships badly battered and locked in combat with over fifty Necrontyr ships.

 

Although heavily out-numbered the Fists rushed to the Navy

[Krooter]

So not changing name, colour scheme, just the fluff. Instead of "new army" try "re-vamped". :devil:

[++Brazen--Eagles++]

exactly.... revamped.

 

their colour scheme is slighty different to the original but its all good coz i can change the guys ive already changed to suit the new one.

 

It used to be dwarf bronze with white helmet. and now after some experimenting its shining gold with a wash of chestnut ink which gives it a dark gold look. tis well good mate <_< ....

 

any ways what do all of u think of my fluff thus far?

 

 

++ Eagle Out ++

[Commissar Molotov]

The first major problem is that of the Necrons returning. The first recorded attack by the Necrons in recent times was at Sanctuary 101, a Sisters outpost. (It was actually a white dwarf battle report back in second edition). That was 897.M41, which is about four thousand years later than your marines encountered the Necrons.

 

I'm also not sure about a crypt-world that moves freely around the galaxy. It doesn't seem much like anything the Necrons possess. Perhaps make the world stationary.

[Daeothar]

You could of course, in the light of this time issue use the same story, events and plothooks, but all the while not revealing who the enemy really is. I.e. keep the description of the opponent very vague and hazy, eyewitness reports inaccurate etc. Because of the nature of the Imperial organisations, anyone reporting back on them would be declared a heretic and at best imprisoned for life (but most likely shot!) for his transgressions.

 

That way, it might be clear to the fluff savvy reader who the mysterious raiders are but it is only hinted at.

 

We can't let ourselves be limited by GW's timeline too much; it's a big galaxy and no doubt numerous run-ins with Tyranids, Necrons, Hrud or Demiurg :D would have occurred before the first documented case.

 

I myself would not even be bothered by a Pre-Heresy force running into a genestealer cult thousands of years before Ymgarl! After all; those guys are the vanguard, the scouts of the hivefleet and as such might be running ahead of the Tyranid fleet, still far away in the void of intergalactic space. Such a journey would take millions of years, even in the Warp, so I'd say that's entirely probable.

 

Likewise, the Necrons have been asleep in their tombs for millions of years too. They wake up every time their resting places are disturbed, so why shouldn't some of them activate when their tomb/temple is disturbed, it doesn't matter by whom or when to them. It's only recently that they have been named though, so make sure nobody has any knowledge of them at all. Perhaps an old, slightly mad techpriest has heard some old stories decades ago about living metal statues or something but even he dismissed them as fairytales back then.

 

As long as you make it clear nobody knows what they're up against and there are no hints of how large the threat is (to them it's a persistant but local nuisance probably). And stay away from the C'Tan at all costs; do not mention them. Do not hint at them; as far as your guys go, they do not exist!

 

Remember; even Captain Uriel Ventris had absolutely no clue about who he was up against in Nightbringer, not even about the necrons!

[++Brazen--Eagles++]

Alright i will change all that soon... (ive been away for a while and havent had a computer and i am now feeling sick so i wont be on the pc too much at the moment)

 

Any way.. ive almost finished my first assault squad and have just about done the tactical squad (just the bases need doing)

 

So hopefully i can get back on the pc to finish off the Eagles fluff soon. Ill keep u lot posted.

 

 

++ Eagle Out ++

[++Brazen--Eagles++]

Ok guys ive come up with an idea (my camera is buggered so u'll just have to imagine it)... with the colour scheme im using on my Eagles it has become very difficult to determine sergeants (or veterans, commanders etc) from regular troops so ive come up with the following.

 

Regular troops - gold armour washed with chestnut ink. silver shoulderpad rims, backpack vents, feet and bolter casing. all with standard helmets.

 

Veteran sergeants (pretty much every sergeant in my army) - black armour. gold washed with C. ink on the shoulder pads. Beakie helmets (i figure it kinda fits with the Eagle look!)

 

Commander is still undecided but he will be the only one in the army without a helmet on.

So thats the colour ideas for now. plus i also have started some pretty cool bases for every guy (just some bits and pieces ontop of lava flow... looks kinda cool even though i suck at painting lava :lol: )

 

Any way let me know what u think.

 

 

++ Eagle Out ++

[++Brazen--Eagles++]

ok guys.. since ive got nothing else to do sitting at home ive written up the fluff on the Brazen Eagles homeworld. i dont think its done yet but i cant think of any thing else just yet so let me know what you all think.

 

 

Homeworld: Lenico III is a molten moon in the orbit of the same planet as the Tomb. Riddled with volcanoes and extreme seismic activity, Lenico III is the most dangerous moon in Reaper Primes orbit. Despite the danger of its surface, the Brazen Eagles stationed themselves on it and soon became the un-questioned rulers of the small populace currently living on it.

 

There are only two inhabited cities on the entire moon and each one is located at its poles. The North and South Pole of Lenico III are the least dangerous areas on the entire moon and it is at these places that the Brazen Eagles are currently located.

 

Due to its harsh environment, the small populace of the moon are exceptionally tough. They learn to defend themselves from a young age as crime is ripe and only those that can fight will survive. At the South Pole especially the fighting is fierce and the streets of the city are usually riddled with the dead or dying.

 

Those that can fight are usually inducted into the Brazen Eagles ranks and are sent to the North Pole city of Eagles Gate to train in the ways of war.

 

Eagles Gate is the Brazen Eagles fortress monastery where the chapter stays until it is called to duty. Unlike many chapters monastery

[penguin_16]

I thought that marines didn't gaurd planets because there are a million planets and a million marines to defend them? Im not sure on the details on cryptworlds, so I might be speaking bull, but if they cleared the cryptworld then surely they wouldn't need to guard it?

 

Oh sorry, forget all that, you've just got it as their homeworld right?

[Commissar Molotov]

It might be better if your chapter's homeworld was called Lenico III. I have to say that in all honesty, "Reaper Prime" sounds a bit poor. Lenico sounds much better, and aids the suspension of disbelief.

[--Lord_Panthro--]

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[++Brazen--Eagles++]

Lenico III is their homeworld. It orbits reaper prime (name will change soon) as does the Tomb.

 

SO both Lenico and the Tomb are in the orbit of Reaper Prime and the only reason the Eagles stationed themselves there was to protect the area from the Tomb. As yet, even at full strength the chapter is unable to launch an attack on the Tomb as they dont know its power or the power of its inhabitants (i.e necrons. but the Eagles dont know who they are yet!)

 

Again let me know what you think

 

 

++ Eagle Out ++

[Commissar Molotov]

Okay, in hindsight I didn't explain myself clearly. I feel it would be better if Reaper Prime was called Lenico III instead.

 

The points raised by penguin_16 are valid. Marines aren't normally raised purely for guarding a tomb. I feel that would be accomplished more by the Ordo Xenos. I mean, your chapter doesn't fight anyone but Necrons - how do you justify the battles you play?

[++Brazen--Eagles++]

Its not that they fight only Necrons. Its just that the most potent threat in the area are Necrons.

 

And technically although, yes they are guarding the Tomb, they are guarding the space around and near it as they are unsure of what the xenoz are capable of (as some one sugested, they dont know that they are up against necrons, or that the necrons even exist)

 

So they are protecting Imperial Space from a threat that has the potential to be devastating.

 

And i might change their moon to a different name and make the actual world called Lenico III but for now i am happy with Lenico III being the moon.

 

 

++ Eagle Out ++