Agyptus Astartes

[nowfearthis]

Well I guess this is really mainly directed to Bloodwraith. The Blood Jackals I am making, I am considering makeing the an Agyptus based chapter. I must admit though I do not have alot of knowledge on egyptian mythos. So I would like some recommendations. I am not sure when to make there founding. I would like to keep them an BA successor and would also like to keep the twist about there negative view of Sanguinius even though they are of his seed. I wanted to keep them dark founding of 21st but if that is to late I would take any recommendations. Wich god should they follow etc... I think this might make a much better background for them. :mellow:

 

where in the galaxy do they tend to come from, do they normally work together with fellow Agyptus chapters etc... Are they considered traitor or renegade? Just really need alot of general info on the Agyptus project. Thanks.

[Commissar Molotov]

If you want to create an Aegyptus Astartes chapter, you're best out checking Nephren-Ka's AA forum, here:

 

Aegyptus Astartes

 

That said, why are you considering making the Aegyptus Astartes if you don't know much about Egyptian culture, mythos and the like? I've always found that when theming a DIY, it's best to be very passionate about your theme to avoid a loss of interest.

 

To be honest, I preferred the ideas you had before. I'm not sure making them Aegyptus Astartes adds to anything.

[ironloki]

Just really need alot of general info on the Agyptus project

Well the boss Nephren Ka has the answers ;)

 

Wich god should they follow etc... I think this might make a much better background for them.

 

Well what God catches your eye?

 

Are they considered traitor or renegade?

By whom? The inquisition? There are both traitor and loyalist chapters in the Aegyptus Astartes

 

do they normally work together with fellow Agyptus chapters

 

Some chapters work well others like mine prefer not to unless its absolutely necessary :mellow:

 

 

Here's the Original Thread Link

 

Where are we?

 

Ultima Segmentum - near the Ghost stars

 

Map here

Map

 

Ghost Stars Crusades?

 

These are little crusades that all the chapters decide upon where they all descend upon the Chost stars region to rid the region of its fowl inhabitants

 

The Eastern Lion?

The Eastern Lion is recorded by thoseof the Aegyptus astartes as a portion of the Ultima Segmentum, along the eastern fringe that holds the Pharoah's gate. It is through the Pharoah's Gate that the Xenos greenskins invade from the dense population of worlds know outside the Imperiums border's as the Ghost stars. It is the Eastern Lion and its chapters that protect againist these invaders by taking the fight to them in the Ghost star crusades. There is also a rumor that a portal of unknown creation is guarded by one of the chapters also called the eastern lion. unknown out side the AA the Wraiths of Shu guard the Eastern lion gate created by Eldar. - Neph's Site

 

Think of it like a section of the System where Chapters are stationed/patrol (main enemy here is Orks)

 

The Western Lion?

 

The Western Lion is recorded by thoseof the Aegyptus astartes as a portion of the Segmentum Tempestus, along the western fringe that holds protection from the Abydos' gates. Rumors abound that it was the finding of a gate like that rumored in the eastern lion, By Aegyptus astartes that the western lion was formed. A darker rumor also flows here that unknown traitor forces invade from the abydos gates. The forces were once called brother by the Aegyptus astartes and are now hunted till all are dead and the great Book Closed. - Neph's site

(main enemy here is Chaos/Traitors)

 

The White Lion

 

The Northern or Upper Fleet is the White Lion named such after the ancient white crown of Upper Aegyptus from terran history spread through the Aegyptus Culture. Reports show that the white Lions chapters seem most noble and no reports show discord about them. Recorded as great ork hunters the white fleet also show that they seem to go back and forth through outer curves from both the eastern and western lions, some for hundreds of years before return through those areas. - Nephs Site

 

This is a collection of chapters who patrol the North Via their Fleet

 

The Red Lion

 

The Southern or Lower fleet is the red lion named after the red crown of lower Aegyptus History. The red Lions chapters have several reports of discord about them and seem always in a fray somewhere. While recorded as great ork hunters the red fleet also has many reports of fighting againist traitors of the chaos powers. Also reports show that the red fleet seem to go back and forth through outer curves from both the eastern and western lions, some for hundreds of years before return through those areas. - Nephs Site

 

This is similar as above but patrols the Southern Section

[HellChyld]

if you dont find your answers on the project forum please send me a PM with your unanswered questions and I will assist you in what ever I can.

[Bloodwraith]

Nowfearthis: actually i'm just a humble lackey, the big boss is Nephren Ka he's the one who can help you. My biggest question is exactly what Molotov asked. If you know little and aren't passionate about the history why do you want to do an AA chapter? sorry if that comes off as rude i'm just wondering.

[ironloki]

Hey you could always do a mix like me. My favourite culture is that of Greece. I found the Egyptian theme easier to model and it brung something unique (too many people associate greek works with Roman, and rightly so, but the Egyptians offered a new door).

 

I've learnt a lot about the Egyptians during my project and the mix allows you to play on a few things and avoid too many stereotypes :mellow: .

 

How about doing a Roman Egyptian force, Byzantine or perhaps a different and unusual them of Egypt at the Time of the crusades (Although the normal Ancient Egypt may work better)

 

Just some additional thoughts

[nowfearthis]

Let me clearify what i meant. I do know the basics even a little more about egyptian history and mythos....it is just not my specialty. I do not want to change there fluff to much....just thought the attachment to the Aegyptus astartes and tweeking there fluff a little might make the story more fluid. Change homeworld of Anubis to a normal world, as far as day and night cycle...but mostly desert. Also might move them from cursed or dark founding to normal founding maybe 10th...not sure yet.

[Commissar Molotov]

To be honest, making the Blood Jackals aegyptus astartes will not make their story more fluid. I think you had some really interesting and original ideas based around your Blood Jackals that seperated your chapter from run-of-the-mill Blood Angels successors. They were really quite unique. Making them AA won't do much for them.

 

Making them Aegyptus Astartes brings about a number of complications. Nearly all of the AA chapters have a twisted view of the Imperial Creed, with the Emperor called Amun and the primarchs replaced with various Gods. Your Sanguinius/Leman Russ ideas would be confused and not so easy to fit in.

 

I'm just being honest, and if you decide definately to go join the other Aegyptus Astartes marines, more power to you. I'll still help you in the future. But just like we suggested you change from 21st founding as it didn't really help your chapter much, I'm just suggesting that the AA wouldn't help your chapter theme much.

[nowfearthis]

You are right Molotov, I will just keep them normal. I am just stuck figuring out how to play out the slant about Sanguinuis and Russ. I was not sure if the Aegyptus view might have helped explain it. That is why I wanted to get info on it to see if there background would help me workout this area of the fluff that I am stuck on...got writers block bad. I do want them to have an ongoing rivalry with there parent chapter the BA's similiar to the one between the DA's and SW's. Maybe a little bloodier...and basically at odds with all other BA successors...but have very close ties with SW's. any ideas would appreciated....might have to start a new thread becuase this has gotten of the original subject.

[Ferrata]

I have to agree with the Commissar on this one. By making your chapter AA, your going have to do a lot of little changes to make them fit the AA scene. These little changes could add up to a big decrease in your chapters theme (of corse, it could add to them, but its a risk)

 

Ferrata

[Commissar Molotov]

You are right Molotov, I will just keep them normal.  I am just stuck figuring out how to play out the slant about Sanguinuis and Russ.  I was not sure if the Aegyptus view might have helped explain it.  That is why I wanted to get info on it to see if there background would help me workout this area of the fluff that I am stuck on...got writers block bad.  I do want them to have an ongoing rivalry with there parent chapter the BA's similiar to the one between the DA's and SW's.  Maybe a little bloodier...and basically at odds with all other BA successors...but have very close ties with SW's.  any ideas would appreciated....might have to start a new thread becuase this has gotten of the original subject.

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If you wish to start a new thread, no problem. As said before, if you want to check out the AA forum, the link's up-top. But I think Neph and his buddies will give you the same kind of response that I have.

 

Good luck with your chapter, and hopefully we can keep helping you. :mellow: