Codex Doom Scoprions - an All Scout SM army list

[Zingbaby]

Please check out my new chapter codex - Codex Doom Scorpions.

 

The concept is an entire Space Marine chapter that can utilize Scout Armour.

 

Issues thus far: people have commented on the assaultcannon bikes, and the Special characters' weapon.

 

Any input or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

Here it is:

http://home.comcast.net/~vincentgonzalez/C...mScorpions.html

 

Site address changed from htm to html...

In the process of rewritting/revising the fluff now.

 

Enjoy!

[Inquisitor Victan]

looks really cool... i got confused tho when they were betrayed.... lets see some painted models

[Zhivago]

Not until 717.M40, when a long period of stable climate on Nocturne produced a major population growth, had there ever been a need for the Salamander legion to consider dividing its number.  In the following years the Sons of Nocturne Chapter was created and 1st Company Captain Guile Rodrigo, of the elite

[Wolffje]

Very nicely done. I like the fluff and the Codex is well done as well. Though personally I am not into scout armor, as my chapter is the opposite of yours employing only power armor and a good deal of tactical dreadnought suits. It would be interesting to see how a force of marines only in scout armor would hold up in a bigger battle.

 

Please check out my new chapter codex - Codex Doom Scorpions.

 

The concept is an entire Space Marine chapter that can utilize Scout Armour.

 

Issues thus far: people have commented on the assaultcannon bikes, and the Special characters' weapon. 

 

Any input or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

Here it is:

http://home.comcast.net/~vincentgonzalez/C...omScorpions.htm

 

Enjoy!

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

[Zingbaby]

>>" i got confused tho when they were betrayed"

 

Any suggestions here would be greatly appreciated, I never was great in english class! :D

Please tell me what confused you about the betrayal... the fluff definately needs, and is still in the process, of serious editting.

 

>>"The thing is, only 2nd founding was done by dividing chapters. More recent foundigd were built from scratch and given experienced cadre from other chapter to train and lead them."

 

I mentioned this somewhere in there, but it stays true to all the Salamander fluff - that being, the Salamander legion never really produced enough initiates to warrant the creation of 2nd founding chapters. The main reason for the creation of the 'Codex Astartes' was to limit the size and power of one legion by breaking it up into many smaller legions/chapters. The Salamanders have never really had to do this because they are relatively small. So it is feasible that much later in the timeline, having reached largely increased numbers, for whatever reason, that they would break into smaller chapters.

 

>>"And why Konrad Cordoba has T of 5 ? Now it seems it is there only to prevent instant kill from power fists..."

 

Well he was based initially on the Chief Librarian Mephiston. However Mephiston also has WS-6, BS-5, T-5 and a 2+ save. Cordoba gets only a 4+ save (with Iron Halo of course but still 4+), and only WS-5 and BS-4. Conceptually I wanted him to represent a tough as nails, mentally and physically type of character but not necessarily the same level of close-combat/shooting monster as Mephiston. He wins with his head and perseverance.

[warlordgrubnatz]

very good, i like it. I think you should keep the assault cannons a +25 pts. It would also be nice to have the poison weapon, prehaps he could be armed with

the scorpion sting

the scorpion sting is a close combat weapon that always kills on a 6+ to wound, it does not ignor power saves.

[Zhivago]

So it is feasible that much later in the timeline, having reached largely increased numbers, for whatever reason, that they would break into smaller chapters.

 

Hmm, I don't want to sound whiney, but after heresy, only High Lords of Terra could grant founding. Chapter creating sibling chapter like this would been seen building themselves a vassal chapter, thus violating the 1000 marine thingy, and also rebelling against the high lords. Who are the voice of the emperor.

 

But this chapter is your baby, so you can really say what you want. ^_^

 

Ohter then me would propably point same things out.

[Zingbaby]

Hmm, I don't want to sound whiney, but after heresy, only High Lords of Terra could grant founding. Chapter creating sibling chapter like this would been seen building themselves a vassal chapter, thus violating the 1000 marine thingy, and also rebelling against the high lords. Who are the voice of the emperor

 

Now I am confused. Some of these chapters, the Ultramarines for example have a very efficient recruit system. What happens when their chapter reaches 1000 marine limit?

 

I guess I am not understanding what you are saying exactly. Even if it requires permission from the High Lords of Terra, what is to stop another founding from being created, and why would this be so irregular?

 

Do you have any sources I could look at for reference. I would prefer to be historically correct.

[Zhivago]

Now I am confused. Some of these chapters, the Ultramarines for example have a very efficient recruit system. What happens when their chapter reaches 1000 marine limit?

Well, they recruit from gladitorial games held every three or five years. And they pick only the best. And because chapter is almost constantly at war in somewhere there is casualties.

 

I guess I am not understanding what you are saying exactly. Even if it requires permission from the High Lords of Terra, what is to stop another founding from being created, and why would this be so irregular?

 

Well, if you do it with out their permission, you are pretty much heretic. Why foundings are irregular ? Well, we don't know all the founding dates so it bit iffy to say so. Apparently chapters are reated when High Lords have the need and the resources.

 

Do you have any sources I could look at for reference. I would prefer to be historically correct.

 

Well, the stcky in Liber Astartes is worth a read. GW has been quite quiet on 3rd and foundings following it, but one of the IA articles has description of chapter being created, like first having one slave in vat, who is host for gene-seed, and thus produces one more, both are then harvested. Theese are implanted in two new prime slaves, and than later four seeds are extracted. They keep doing this until they have 1000 of em. Then thy plant them to 1000 prime marines-to-be, and selected group from other chapter of same gene-father starts to train them, and eventually lead them while choosing new colours.

 

Of course the bit about veterans is not official, it is just consensus born here.

 

I think Rogue Trader or Aurelius Rex would know better the definite sources.

[Aurelius Rex]

As much as you are going to get from GW on the subject of chapter creation is in the Index Astartes collections... probably the first one... I have the original from when it was published in White Dwarf around UK issue 248 or so.

 

It mentions the whole High Lords founding thing, the nominal cap on chapters of 1000 marines, what the 19 marine implants are, and multiplying up geneseed in mindwiped slaves in big glass tanks.

 

Most of this stuff was originally from an article in White Dwarf from around WD 100... really early in the history of 40K.

 

All of the Index Astartes collections are worth a read though. It gives you something to set your compass to, so that you know what is recognisably a marine chapter, and what is total tosh that has nothing at all to do with the Adeptus startes after reading them. ^_^

 

The Chapter Creation Stickypost link is a handy read if you are creating a chapter, and the last post is a reasonable supposition of how chapters might be created.

[StormDragon]

Looks good. Have you got any models made or painted up? I think an army of converted scouts would look cool :P

 

You've got some good names in your list of alternatives B) Although I'm glad you picked Doom Scorpions :devil: