Salamander Successors

[Grimdarkness]

The Chapter Master PICKS the name....who said anythign about EARNING it? If a Chapter master wants to name his chapter the Vorpal Kangaroos, they are stuck until he gets replaced. (Something tells me Catachan rules for having "accidents" involving comissars would apply here.)

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Then earn was the wrong word to use and the event's of there frist action as a chapter lends itself to the story of why the chapter master pick's said name.

 

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O.K i need one more thing a founding number eg the grey knight's are 666 the dark angel's whould be one so if there where 43 2nd founding chapter's plus the frist founding 9 that get's me 52 so i should put it somewhere in the high sixties low seveties if it's a 4 th founding then right. :yuck:

 

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In 566 M32 the frist four salamander succere chapter's were created as part of the forth founding of space marines since th events of the Hersay and the reconquest of what was lost. Chapter number 70 showed no abberattion's and all the sings pointed to them been much as there parent chapter in there devotion and duty to the emperor of man. They also showed that like the salamander's who the decended from the whould not act in haste in any things and so after there build up and shake down they were presented with there battel barge and strike criusers and asked what name they whould take captian Lifford informed the tech priest and assembled officals that his chapter action's whould speak for them and in time he and his berthren whould name themself for now they whould simply be chapter 70. What response was given none know and the chapter well not speak of it so it was with much ado and portent's of doom that the chapter set out to make it's name in the annules of history.

 

Please forgive the spelling and grammer this was posted off a school computer and my fluff's at home C & C welcome.

 

Grimm

[Gator_of_Bahamut]

First off, there were TWENTY first founding chapters, not 9. How do you figure that the grey knights were 666, though? If I'm not mistaken , they were created during the second founding, so that number is a bit high. Also, the Sallies don't seem to have very many successors, thus creating 4 in one founding is highly unlikely... if at all possible!

[Brother Tyler]

First off, there were TWENTY first founding chapters, not 9. How do you figure that the grey knights were 666, though? If I'm not mistaken , they were created during the second founding, so that number is a bit high. Also, the Sallies don't seem to have very many successors, thus creating 4 in one founding is highly unlikely... if at all possible!

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9 Loyalist Legions remained.

 

The official fluff for the Grey Knights has maintained that their Chapter number is 666 since their earliest incarnation, so I'd say that the number is about right.

 

The Chapter numbers obviously aren't sequential, though, so trying to correlate the Grey Knights' Chapter number with any other Chapters won't get you anywhere.

 

If the Salamanders had submitted enough gene-seed to the Adeptus Mechanicus, it's quite possible for 4 Successors to have been created during the same Founding. The issue there, then, is whether or not enough was submitted and deemed pure prior to the new Founding. It takes 55 years to create enough gene-seed for a new Chapter, assuming you start with one complete set. So if the Salamanders submitted 4 sets of pure gene-seed, it would take a minimum of 55 years to have enough for 4 Chapters. If you consider the fact that Chapters are supposed to submit a tithe every year to the Adeptus Mechanicus, it's feasible for 4 new Chapters to have been created at some point in one of the earlier (post-2nd) Foundings.

[Gator_of_Bahamut]

Yes, I'm aware of the Horus Heresy, but even the expunged legions are still numbered. I would assume most chapters have been numbered sequentially, though, and that GKs are merely an exception.

 

You're looking at theoretical maximums, though... just becaue a chapter CAN be created every so often doesn't mean it IS. Usually, founding are at least a century apart. I'm sure many more chapters than we know have geneseed that is unfit for anything but mainting their own numbers, and the fact that the Sallies have no officially named and confirmed successors seems to indicate that their geneseed is used only every so often, not four at once.

[Grimdarkness]

O.K four is a strecth but the number looks good but it's unknown if the chapter's are refered to by numbers at all. If i go by the 2nd founding number's the majority of space marine chapter's are of U.M stock But the white scars and blood angel's produced four and five chapter's so dose that mean they have a higher proporitin then the other chapter's.

 

 

I'd think if the ultra marine's are the poster boy's of space marine's the salamander's whould be a close 2nd no dark secret's no blood lust no Black rage red thirst no fear of the flesh and there primarch did not :) with there genetic make up and no canis helix to doom any other chapter's to death.

 

 

Grimm

[Ferrata]

Well, 2/3 of all Chapters are Ultra. At a guess, the other 1/3 is made up of about the following -

 

50% IF

10% (each) - RG, WS, Sallies, IH

10% Between them - BA, DA

0 - SW

 

Ferrata

[Gator_of_Bahamut]

Yes the Sallies are the cleanest, least messed-up chapter next to the goody-goody ultras, but that is one reason you don't see more from them. They are the quiet ones standing in the corner, not the flashy crusaders. Even GW forgets about them a lot of times! I think something like Ferrata's numbers are better. Something like 3% of all chapters would be Salamander stock, which is like, 30 chapters.