Havock Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 still a "held together by putty-wip" http://members.lycos.nl/durandalarw/40k/DCbladeswip.JPG I'm not that great with greenstuff yet, but if I can get this working a little, my entire assault marine colelction will feature bare arms with plasticard bone-blades instead of "marine arms with plasticard blades glued on" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/85081-dragon-claws-marine/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cypher441 Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 Couple of things. First, I like the look, looks good so far, most of my criticisms are minor. 1. He looks like he's leaning a bit too far back, if he isn't careful, he'll fall over. A marine can't kill things very well if he's sat on his arse. :P 2. If I remember Black Dragons correctly, the elbow blades are generally shown pointing forwards....I think. More like if they brought there armour up to hit a person with their elbows, the blades would stab the opponent as opposed to the cutting postion you have them in. However, they are your minis so it is solely your choice. I think anyone would recognise them as black dragons as they are, but I was just letting you know. :wink: 3. You could consider one of the swords being held properly in the marine's hand. From a practical point of view, holding both the swords in that manner to attack someone with would pretty much render the elbow blades useless. Follow? And I think that without power armour assistance to his arms, carrying two big swords around like that would be a hinderence for the marine. Like I said, minor criticisms, nitpicking really. Post them finished and painted results. :):) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/85081-dragon-claws-marine/#findComment-983867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Commander Vulkus Dorn Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 you might even consider shortening the arm blades too. they look a tad to big IMO Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/85081-dragon-claws-marine/#findComment-983893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havock Posted April 14, 2006 Author Share Posted April 14, 2006 Couple of things. First, I like the look, looks good so far, most of my criticisms are minor. 1. He looks like he's leaning a bit too far back, if he isn't careful, he'll fall over. A marine can't kill things very well if he's sat on his arse. :P Yeah, but that's not a real point as it's still held by putty, I corrected it already, slightly leaning forward. Gives him a "why you little...."-look. 2. If I remember Black Dragons correctly, the elbow blades are generally shown pointing forwards....I think. More like if they brought there armour up to hit a person with their elbows, the blades would stab the opponent as opposed to the cutting postion you have them in. However, they are your minis so it is solely your choice. I think anyone would recognise them as black dragons as they are, but I was just letting you know. :)I think the backward position look better, aesthetics ;) 3. You could consider one of the swords being held properly in the marine's hand. From a practical point of view, holding both the swords in that manner to attack someone with would pretty much render the elbow blades useless. Follow? And I think that without power armour assistance to his arms, carrying two big swords around like that would be a hinderence for the marine. Only one sword is unsheathed, the other is still in the scabbard on his side. And not really, considering marines are extremely expensive and manly enough to manpack heavy bolters around :P Like I said, minor criticisms, nitpicking really. Post them finished and painted results. :P:) Thanks, and will do :) The idea is not a full-blown combat pose, but a "second before combat pose", first and foremost the priority is/was to have a dynamic feel to it. it doesn't take much more than a quick wrist-spn to change the holding of the sword. Would it be cool to add a scabbard to the arm-blade on the right arm? so it's wrapped around the arm but uses the blade as a secure point? And vulkus: they oughta be nice and big, they are marines after all, EVERYTHING is big. :wink: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/85081-dragon-claws-marine/#findComment-983910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kor Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 The Black Dragons do have foward-canted arm blades. But, they look terribly ugly and out of proportion. If you compare the GW sample model from the Heraldry website, his arm blades are actually quite small: http://uk.games-workshop.com/spacemarines/...er%2Dgallery/1/ I like the figure. Kor Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/85081-dragon-claws-marine/#findComment-983959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havock Posted April 14, 2006 Author Share Posted April 14, 2006 yeah, but in the CA article, there is another one with backward facing blades. it being a mutation, it might very well caue blades to mutate from the lower leg... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/85081-dragon-claws-marine/#findComment-983986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannus Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 For some reason, people model them with bare arms to compensate for the blades - as if the armour would not fit because of them. Keep in mind that each suit is carefully adapted to its wearer and can be easily modified for these....mutations. So you don't have to go with bare arms if you don't want to (and it would be cheaper also). The blades could go either way...it is a mutation after all. I tend to like them facing forward (and substatially smaller), but that IMO. Please. No Rhino horns! Finally, post some pics when you get a few put together. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/85081-dragon-claws-marine/#findComment-984025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaldoth Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 Nice job with the elbow blades :huh: My only crit is that the blades are facing the wrong way. At least if you look at the other BD models already made. However, theyre your minis :D -Kaldoth Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/85081-dragon-claws-marine/#findComment-984039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blckbuster Posted April 14, 2006 Share Posted April 14, 2006 I'm a tremendous fan of thebackward pointing blades, reminds me of the (hate to admit it) nemesis enforcer from GI joe. some half decent images here http://www.comicbookbin.com/cobrala.html I like the idea that a marine could attack with a hand held weapon and follow through with the claws it might even be cool to look into real life dermal bone conditions, they might be more cancerous and unattractive PS sooooo happy the boards back!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/85081-dragon-claws-marine/#findComment-984245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battle Brother Martin Posted April 15, 2006 Share Posted April 15, 2006 Since it is a mutation, the mutation could differ from company to company..... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/85081-dragon-claws-marine/#findComment-984286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havock Posted April 15, 2006 Author Share Posted April 15, 2006 or from person to person ;) And Bannus, I too hate the head-horns, but I just wanted to try out bare arms. Though I can agree on the "adapt the suit to the bearer" idea, normal suit-with-blades look more like the blades are added to the suit instead of growing out of someones arm. I'll finish him and paint him up, I'll then decide what I want. Hell, might as well mix & match. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/85081-dragon-claws-marine/#findComment-984429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megalodon Posted April 15, 2006 Share Posted April 15, 2006 Not a bad looking conversion. I have question though, Where the heck did you get the plastic studded shoulder pad. I have seen this thing showing up all over the place lately. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/85081-dragon-claws-marine/#findComment-984813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted April 15, 2006 Share Posted April 15, 2006 Though I can agree on the "adapt the suit to the bearer" idea, normal suit-with-blades look more like the blades are added to the suit instead of growing out of someones arm. Remember that according to the Black Dragons' official fluff, the blades are coated in adamantium: Known as the Dragon Claws, they sharpen these additional protrusions to a killing edge, and sheath them in adamantium to turn them into deadly close combat weapons. I think that they should come from armoured arms. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/85081-dragon-claws-marine/#findComment-984833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grand master jack Posted April 15, 2006 Share Posted April 15, 2006 @Megalodon The studded pads come with the new tactical marine box set. So I presume you are an older collector in that respect. eg. you got the troops for your army a long time ago. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/85081-dragon-claws-marine/#findComment-984842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megalodon Posted April 15, 2006 Share Posted April 15, 2006 Yup, a very seasoned vet! :ph34r: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/85081-dragon-claws-marine/#findComment-984845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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