Yodhrin Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 This is why Im not a fan of a lot of the GD stuff from the continent; it just doesn't seem like GW. It really does feel like a lot of the painters just wish GW were producing minis for random Anime shows or other mini companies(Ill scream if I see one more GW model painted in the same style as the Rackham minis, all NMM and blending but no soul).Have you seen some of the newer Rackham painted miniatures? Or are you basing your definition of 'Rackham style' on how people who don't work for Rackham paint their miniatures. Because from what I see the Rackham style consists of textures and not smooth blending. The NMM part is true but GW painter have used NMM for a long time (probably longer than Rackham even exists) just not on every miniature. And where in the GW paint jobs do you see soul. These miniatures are painted for packaging and pictures. With enough contrast to work on the box. I know that it's your opinion but it looks like a generalisation in my opinion. Hold on there, bucko, we were talking about Games Day entries, no? So where does how GW paint their boxart minis come into things? I base my opinion of Rackham models on the Rackham online store, which is full of technically excellent but singularly dull models which use excessive NMM and blended armour to hide a lack of detail on the models. Then again, Im not one of those wierdos who keeps complaining about GW putting too much "bling"(ie, detail) on their new models, so what do I know :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeanFrancois Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Genius! I love it and it's cool to see how similar it is to the original Heresy Dreads. Very fluffy. There's obviously a lot of work here. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dammekkos Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Haha, I despair sometimes, I really do. I can't believe how many people are hating on this dread. I voted it a 10. It is superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelSaphire Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 I like the Dreadnaught because it reminds me of a Preherasy style; however yes the Assault cannon looks rather odd for the Dreadnaught and also the base is quite confusing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Hold on there, bucko, we were talking about Games Day entries, no? So where does how GW paint their boxart minis come into things?Here: You compare Golden Daemon miniatures with Rackham boxart/blister card miniatures ("I'll scream if..."). I just got distracted by your comparison.I base my opinion of Rackham models on the Rackham online store, which is full of technically excellent but singularly dull models which use excessive NMM and blended armour to hide a lack of detail on the models. Then again, Im not one of those wierdos who keeps complaining about GW putting too much "bling"(ie, detail) on their new models, so what do I know :rolleyes:"excessive NMM": Calling that exessive somehow doesn't work. They chose to use no metallic paints for their boxart at a time when everyone used metallic paints. What should they do after they have applied the primer to the metal parts?"lack of detail": I wouldn't say that Rackham miniatures lack detail. If you really want to see miniatures that don't have "bling" try looking for hasslefree/spyglass miniatures. And yes I am probably one of thes wierdos who at some point just don't want to see a minimum of one skull per miniature and details that are disproportional large/thick. By the way: The model's weathering and lighting seems to be inspired by military modeling. I like the model expecially because it's straining the GW design parameters. The design of the hand doesn't fit exactly (too roundish) but the other stuff works (even if he had to butcher some model kits). I don't think we should discuss that here much longer.Let's leave it at thisas long as we are still nice to each other ^_^ . Our preferences (regarding miniatures) are different. It could get off topic very fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neosonichdghgnew Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 It's incredible. But it's not a Dreadnought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowight Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 firestorm do you have a link to a pic of the new ven. dread? (although i may be dissappointed to see it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeanFrancois Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 firestorm do you have a link to a pic of the new ven. dread? (although i may be dissappointed to see it) Well, I'm not Firestorm but I'll risk taking the initiative of posting some pics in his stead. :P Most obvious source of inspiration, an Ultramarine Dread: http://www.pa-sy.com/hhccg/images/justarius.jpg Others: http://www.pa-sy.com/hhccg/images/bakhart.jpg http://www.pa-sy.com/hhccg/images/kargul.jpg http://www.pa-sy.com/hhccg/images/lorg.jpg http://www.pa-sy.com/hhccg/images/rylanor.jpg http://www.pa-sy.com/hhccg/images/seraphis.jpg http://www.pa-sy.com/hhccg/images/aesir.jpg Most, if not all, of these pictures can be found in much better detail within The Art of the Horus Heresy, vol. I: Visions of War published by the Black Library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubal Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 I think he may have meant the new model which is in the sneak peeks (second image currently) :devil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usernames are for wimps Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 I'm confused by firestorms comment. Not looking like GW's upcomming ven dread must surely be a good thing right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeanFrancois Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 @Tubal: Doh! My bad, it all makes sense now... @Usernames are for smelly crustaceans: From the comments I seen so far on other forums, opinions are mixed. While I personally hate it (waaay too many cheesy details and the only thing it's missing are a pair of furry (scatter) dice), I seen a lot of people liking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radardog Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 firestorm do you have a link to a pic of the new ven. dread? (although i may be dissappointed to see it) Well, I'm not Firestorm but I'll risk taking the initiative of posting some pics in his stead. <_< Most obvious source of inspiration, an Ultramarine Dread: http://www.pa-sy.com/hhccg/images/justarius.jpg Others: http://www.pa-sy.com/hhccg/images/bakhart.jpg http://www.pa-sy.com/hhccg/images/kargul.jpg http://www.pa-sy.com/hhccg/images/lorg.jpg http://www.pa-sy.com/hhccg/images/rylanor.jpg http://www.pa-sy.com/hhccg/images/seraphis.jpg http://www.pa-sy.com/hhccg/images/aesir.jpg Most, if not all, of these pictures can be found in much better detail within The Art of the Horus Heresy, vol. I: Visions of War published by the Black Library. when i first saw this, my initial thought was "Ancient technology" because it looks VERY techie, i like it a lot. then i saw that people were ripping it a new arse hole, and i was confused as to why. i am no expert on the fluff, but didnt something happen that made the index astartes is it, or adeptus mechanicus??? become afraid of technology, which is why they bless the ancient tech such as plasma guns before each battle, and use "new" tech stuff that is decidedly less high tech than the older stuff??? your pics of cards from GW just show that the ancient dredds looked a lot, if not exactly like the model in question. which discounts what a lot of people are saying about how it doesnt fit in with 40K at all... so to summ it up, it fits, and is super super clean. 1million points for the bad-ass that made it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gebann Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 In regards to the dred from France's GD show,its great workmanship. I really love the paint and attention to details. Having said that ,I think its too..."leggy". I guess I like my dreds stockier,squat,not sure what the right term is. I just don't care for the style. Gebann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puppet Master Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 This maybe an old topic, but personally I love this thing, and as the card game pics show, it is very akin to the old dreds, which fluff wise means it is quite acuracte. I love it =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Knight Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 Threadromancy! bleagh, just kidding with ya, as stated before i also like this thing, although i do agree with the "it looks like a transformer" remarks, at least it doesnt look like a box with stubby little cork legs. :P just my opinion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retlaw83 Posted August 10, 2006 Share Posted August 10, 2006 I didn't like it at first, but the more I looked at it the more it grew on me. However, the limp-wristed, sausage-fingered hand should DEFINITELY be replaced - it seems something more like an Eldar walker would have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NemFX Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I dont like the powerfist's fingers, and I'm pretty sure the cannon was taken from a different modelling line entirley, but i do like the rest of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodwraith Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 the assault cannon is scratch built from GW bits. I love the assault cannon to bits. It looks like a modern day minigun. That's what an assault cannon should look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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