Demoulius Posted May 9, 2006 Share Posted May 9, 2006 Also he would 'technicly' be a ronin, as Samurai were dishonored by using two blades at once. ((Could be explained as the katana opens armour, and the wakazashi finishes it. eh? wut? anyhow :D thats one awesome mini :D have you decided on his head yet? :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/86478-new-samurai-marine-kill-team-wip/page/2/#findComment-1002486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stayeatingpaint Posted May 9, 2006 Share Posted May 9, 2006 woah nice conversions they look awsome, i really like the shoulder pad things ninjas > samurais :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/86478-new-samurai-marine-kill-team-wip/page/2/#findComment-1002517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damocles Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 @Demoulius: Typically, Samurai will never use two blades at once. They may carry many, but only use one at a time. A ronin is like a rogue samurai, who has been dishonored somehow and thus has no objections to using two blades. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/86478-new-samurai-marine-kill-team-wip/page/2/#findComment-1002524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
space wolf Posted May 10, 2006 Author Share Posted May 10, 2006 Typically, Samurai will never use two blades at once. They may carry many, but only use one at a time. A ronin is like a rogue samurai, who has been dishonored somehow and thus has no objections to using two blades I hate to disagree with you, but that is not necesarily true. The samurai practiced all sorts of variations and subspecializations of Kenjutsu. While I agree, for the most part, you will only see a samurai using one sword (more specifically the longer one, Katana) I wouldnt say that any samurai using two Katana would be ronin....as a side note, I havnt quite decided whether or not the second sword will stay as a katana :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/86478-new-samurai-marine-kill-team-wip/page/2/#findComment-1002537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damocles Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Oh totally. I was just clarifying what Gyson_Tore meant. Samurai have practices and techniques of using multiple weapons and swords. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/86478-new-samurai-marine-kill-team-wip/page/2/#findComment-1002549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRagex Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 This is kind of a side note comment, but I think if you made one with a tetsubo that would rock. I love the two katanas though I can't wait to see more of your work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/86478-new-samurai-marine-kill-team-wip/page/2/#findComment-1002570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
space wolf Posted May 10, 2006 Author Share Posted May 10, 2006 more progress... http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/space_wolf/MVC-219S.jpg http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/space_wolf/MVC-220S.jpg ok, now I want you guys to help me...I can leave the pose as is, or I can do what I initially planned. what I have in mind is to add, the big japanese Kimono sleaves and pantlegs to the model...overall the model would look something like this... (I put my 3 year old to work again...quality sucks...so hard to find good help these days :P ) http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/space_wolf/MVC-221S.jpg I think it could add some really good dimention and samurai flavor to the model...but I'm afraid of covering up my (in my not so humble opinion) great GS work. (this pose, and the amount of GS sculpting is a first for me). What do you guys think. In the drawing I'm going for kind of a samurai, desperado/clint eastwood kind of feel. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/86478-new-samurai-marine-kill-team-wip/page/2/#findComment-1002573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 :P that guys wrist has GOT to hurt :blush: hmm you can always cover the entire hand with the sleeve? :jaw: that way you would get away with your little bended hand :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/86478-new-samurai-marine-kill-team-wip/page/2/#findComment-1002576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alea acta est Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 very nice. A first i expected a red color for samurai. Dont know why. :P blues look totaly awesome. On your next model maybe you can do a helmet like shredder. http://morejpegs1.tripod.com/sitebuilderco...s/Shredder2.jpg big but best pic i could find +++ Mod edit: oversized picture changed to a link +++ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/86478-new-samurai-marine-kill-team-wip/page/2/#findComment-1002581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRagex Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 I kind of like it the way it is, but at the same time it seems a bit akward to mehttp://fenrir.finalfantasyq.com/battleground/ss2/ss2jubei.gif maybe something like that? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/86478-new-samurai-marine-kill-team-wip/page/2/#findComment-1002583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demoulius Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 hmm i :wub: shredder, he looks so cool ^_^ somethign tells me gsing a shredder helmet would be hard :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/86478-new-samurai-marine-kill-team-wip/page/2/#findComment-1002589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
space wolf Posted May 10, 2006 Author Share Posted May 10, 2006 very nice. A first i expected a red color for samurai. Dont know why. blues look totaly awesome. On your next model maybe you can do a helmet like shredder. I did use red, and I did somewhat of a shredder helm, its just on my first model...click here to view first samurai model Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/86478-new-samurai-marine-kill-team-wip/page/2/#findComment-1002590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop_DH Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 good first model...the sword is a little thick and cus im a perfectionist on small details like that, it would drive me nuts....anyway the second one seems like a good design...i would try and cover up that wrist though...looks like he can extend his wrist at odd angels....i think if you just did a hat for the guy it may convay enough of the samuri look but putting a robe on him might help too...but i think it would be a little of a problem for you to do something with him like that....if you want a robe you might want to look at the Dark Angels sargents...they got some cool robes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/86478-new-samurai-marine-kill-team-wip/page/2/#findComment-1002593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
space wolf Posted May 10, 2006 Author Share Posted May 10, 2006 more progress...once the GS dries, I still have to put more folds one the Kimono, but otherwise the lowerhalf of the body is done. ++EDIT++ I forgot to put in the pictures :lol: http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/space_wolf/MVC-222S.jpg http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/space_wolf/MVC-223S.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/86478-new-samurai-marine-kill-team-wip/page/2/#findComment-1002867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skullmaster Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Ouch, that left wrist looks quite uncomfortable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/86478-new-samurai-marine-kill-team-wip/page/2/#findComment-1003077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
space wolf Posted May 10, 2006 Author Share Posted May 10, 2006 ok, I've fixed the wrist and added some folds to the pants as well as a head...I think there are too many folds in the pants, so some will probably get filed off once dry. what do you guys think? http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/space_wolf/MVC-224S.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/86478-new-samurai-marine-kill-team-wip/page/2/#findComment-1003184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidhogg_Rider Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 the hat looks a bit odd Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/86478-new-samurai-marine-kill-team-wip/page/2/#findComment-1003195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carados Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 The hat: I think it should but a little wider, as in... not bigger in the *vertical* plane. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/86478-new-samurai-marine-kill-team-wip/page/2/#findComment-1003199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blckbuster Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 could always use a modified tau drone as a hat Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/86478-new-samurai-marine-kill-team-wip/page/2/#findComment-1003210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronophague Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 I still have to put more folds one the Kimono, You mean hakama, not kimono I presume? ;) Looks good, nice dynamic pose. Cheers Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/86478-new-samurai-marine-kill-team-wip/page/2/#findComment-1003222 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Renn Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 I agree that the hat should be a little wider, as in flatter, not taller. I think you should angle the left hand up just a little more. It does not look like a powerful or comfortable way to hold a weapon of any kind. Or maybe you could try to rotate the hand so that the sword is in front of the model. This kill team is coming along very nicely. I really like the various conversions and effort that you are putting into this. Excellent work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/86478-new-samurai-marine-kill-team-wip/page/2/#findComment-1003228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinohai Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 yeah the hat needs to come out further. i dunno why people complain of the wrist it looks fine to me. also people are getting to hung up on correct names for the parts of clothing, not everyone has gone into study the names of japanese clothes. just as someone was confused when the word ronin was used. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/86478-new-samurai-marine-kill-team-wip/page/2/#findComment-1003334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coop_DH Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 the pants look fine...maybe a little too much folds but i think it would be nice to just alter that wrist a little...either bring it up a little more or even try inverting the hand so it looks like he is pointing it to the ground...or basicly in a stance....thats close to a stance i would use with 2 swords...anyway i think the hat also could lower a little bit...but its all good Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/86478-new-samurai-marine-kill-team-wip/page/2/#findComment-1003358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jux2p0ze Posted May 11, 2006 Share Posted May 11, 2006 You could always shave down a shield from the fantasy plastics line to make for a better hat. I remember seeing it on some Chaos Marine lord conversion in white dwarf a while back. Good looking stuff. Keep up the good work. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/86478-new-samurai-marine-kill-team-wip/page/2/#findComment-1003387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
space wolf Posted May 11, 2006 Author Share Posted May 11, 2006 I made the hat bigger, and added some cloth to the sleeves, its supposed to simulate, being tucked in under the elbow and forarm pads... http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/space_wolf/MVC-245S.jpg http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/space_wolf/MVC-246S.jpg http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j18/space_wolf/MVC-247S.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/86478-new-samurai-marine-kill-team-wip/page/2/#findComment-1003425 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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