Kaldoth Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 Well, I was playing with the Space Marine scheme creator on the WD UK site, and I accidentally clicked the wrong colour into the wrong place. However, after looking at it for a while, it started to look pretty appealing :wub: So, after jiggering around with it for a bit, I made this scheme, and I think I might want to go ahead and paint up an army with it: http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/Kaldoth/scheme.png What do you all think? I couldnt find a good lense colour, so Im open to suggestions ^_^ -Kaldoth Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/88510-a-quick-scheme-i-whipped-up/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOGGED Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 Nice but the bone bolter looks kinda weird. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/88510-a-quick-scheme-i-whipped-up/#findComment-1019789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 The red helmet for sergeants is cool, and is in accordance with the codex - perhaps your new chapter are a codex-adherent chapter. But why the kneepad and shoulder-pad trim change also? How does your chapter mark company affiliation? Some good ideas, though, I look forward to seeing more from your marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/88510-a-quick-scheme-i-whipped-up/#findComment-1019793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaldoth Posted May 31, 2006 Author Share Posted May 31, 2006 Nice but the bone bolter looks kinda weird.Heh, just noticed that :D The red helmet for sergeants is cool, and is in accordance with the codex - perhaps your new chapter are a codex-adherent chapter. But why the kneepad and shoulder-pad trim change also? How does your chapter mark company affiliation? The red kneepad and trim are purely cosmetic. IMO, the Sarge looked a bit weird with just the red helmet, and the trim and kneepad made the helmet look less out of place. As for squad markings, Ive got no idea either. Again, Ive only got a scheme. I havent thought about any fluff yet. Any idea for the eye lenses??? -Kaldoth EDIT: Updated the picture :( Fixed the bolters, and I think I might have found my lense colour ;) Also, I was wondering which of these Sargeant variants you all think looks the best. I cant decide myself: sgt image link ++EDIT: your pic was to big so I turned it into alink.++ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/88510-a-quick-scheme-i-whipped-up/#findComment-1019805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 I'm a simple person who tries to keep it simple. Sargeant 1 is most appealing to me :wub: 1. Easier to paint 2. Allows for squad and company markings to be developed later Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/88510-a-quick-scheme-i-whipped-up/#findComment-1019906 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOGGED Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 Agree with Race Bannon. But I'd let the lil' skull on the helmet in bone colour, sort of relief. And maybe you could try to paint the sarge's helmet crest bone too. A nice contrast. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/88510-a-quick-scheme-i-whipped-up/#findComment-1020491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaldoth Posted June 1, 2006 Author Share Posted June 1, 2006 Like this? http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c206/Kaldoth/sarge4.png -Kaldoth Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/88510-a-quick-scheme-i-whipped-up/#findComment-1020633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOGGED Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 That's it. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/88510-a-quick-scheme-i-whipped-up/#findComment-1020728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
st.germaine Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 I have to agree that this is the best choice for sgt. of those posted. It leaves the marine's right knee open for company/squad designator if you choose to do it that way. You could also put the company color on the arrow on the marine's right shoulder pad or leave the arrow the current color and put the squad number in the company color on the arrow. Any further ideas on what you plan to do with them - name, theme, etc...? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/88510-a-quick-scheme-i-whipped-up/#findComment-1020879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaldoth Posted June 2, 2006 Author Share Posted June 2, 2006 Actually Im not quite sure what I want to do with them. Ive always had trouble deciding things with chapters and fluff. However, I do know I want a shield in their badge, and the word "Guard" or "Guardians" in their Chapter name. Problem is, I dont know what they would be the Guard or Guardians of <_< Im going to have to think on it more. I do know, however, that I want two things to be included in my Chapters history: 1. An unusually high amount of Librarians. 2. An unknown gene seed. I love using Librarians, so I want them to be a large part of my Chapter. I also dont want the geneseed of my chapters Primarch to be known, just because I like that whole mysterious feel. Anyway, Ill keep you all updated as I think about more stuff ;) I might also change their scheme to something else. All of my gaming mates say they look a bit too Ultrasmurf-ish, and I absolutely despise the Ultras -_- -Kaldoth Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/88510-a-quick-scheme-i-whipped-up/#findComment-1021704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrata Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 An unknown gene seed. Not knowing there gene-seed doesn't really add that much mystery unless it is carried all the way through the chapter (aka. Blood Ravens, actually come to think of it, both things you mentioned fit the Blood Ravens). Guard/Guardians would generally point towards a defensive chapter in nature. Probably using a large amount of guns over combat, and more static in warfare. Maybe slightly stubborn when defending, and quite calm as well. Due to the fact they are defending, they know what they are doing. In my chapters history, there is a Chapter called the Iron Guard, who are very defensive in doctrine and nature (think Communist Russia). Ferrata Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/88510-a-quick-scheme-i-whipped-up/#findComment-1021774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 Ultrasmurf-ish my G-Force sphincter! Use a relatively dark blue. All that white/off-white/bone/whatever removes them from Ultramarines except that yors are remotely "smurfy". You have a good scheme and you have a start on your story. What's in a name? Everything. But making a story from the name can be a very challenging route to take. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/88510-a-quick-scheme-i-whipped-up/#findComment-1021871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaldoth Posted June 2, 2006 Author Share Posted June 2, 2006 An unknown gene seed. Not knowing there gene-seed doesn't really add that much mystery unless it is carried all the way through the chapter (aka. Blood Ravens, actually come to think of it, both things you mentioned fit the Blood Ravens). Well, I got around to thinking about the whole "unknown geneseed" thing, and I was playing around with an idea. In ancient times, the Chapter lost its Battle Barge, a full quarter of their men, and a full quarter of their fleet in a cataclysmic space battle against a large Word Bearers force. The rest of the Chapter's fleet was on the other side of the galaxy doing something so they couldnt readily help (I havent quite hammered out the details about what they were doing :wacko: Like I said, its just a rough idea). Afterwards, scavengers and rogue traders pilfered and stole anything still functioning or of value from the wreckage of the battle. The Chapter is going to be fairly old (Im thinking fourth founding) and so because of this, over the centuries the knowlege of the Chapter history has been all but lost, and its relics and data spread all across the galaxy. So, now they are searching for any clues as to who they really are, who their Primarch is, etc. Guard/Guardians would generally point towards a defensive chapter in nature. Probably using a large amount of guns over combat, and more static in warfare. Maybe slightly stubborn when defending, and quite calm as well. Due to the fact they are defending, they know what they are doing. In my chapters history, there is a Chapter called the Iron Guard, who are very defensive in doctrine and nature (think Communist Russia). Well by far, that isnt me :blink: Im a close combat kind of guy. Time to come up with a new name methinks... So, any comments or ideas? -Kaldoth Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/88510-a-quick-scheme-i-whipped-up/#findComment-1021977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaldoth Posted June 4, 2006 Author Share Posted June 4, 2006 Sorry for the double post, but does anyone else have comments or ideas for a name? Im still stumped :lol: And writing up the fluff for them is getting to be a bit annoying. Ive got too many ideas and not enough paper... -Kaldoth Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/88510-a-quick-scheme-i-whipped-up/#findComment-1023259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Race Bannon Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 The Chapter is going to be fairly old (Im thinking fourth founding) and so because of this, over the centuries the knowlege of the Chapter history has been all but lost, and its relics and data spread all across the galaxy. So, now they are searching for any clues as to who they really are, who their Primarch is, etc. Word Hunters And why? They hate the Word Bearers for what they did to your chapter. AND they are seeking knowledge of their history. :blush: :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/88510-a-quick-scheme-i-whipped-up/#findComment-1023812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOGGED Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Liber Custodes - the Guardians of the Book. Keeping with the Librarian theme. They could be a knowledge research specialized chapter. So it would be logical for them to be space bound and always involved in travelling. This involvement with research would make them introspective to protect their findings from zealous eyes and so you have no problem finding enemies! Their preference for close combat could come from they having to fight in close quarters when researching ancient installations or places. Their unwillingness to start firefights or unleash big fire power is justified by their interest in not destroying potential sources of knowledge. Librarians could double as company commanders. The chapter could be directed by a librarian council. You can go divergent. A nice option, for example, would be to take the trait Heed the wisdom of the Ancients to represent the reverence for the veterans. The venerable dreads could take a role in the direction of the chapter as a sort of advisory council. You then go without devastators which is logical as you're not going into the lbig shooting party. The assault cannons of the dreads should be a help. Melta bombs for assaulting tanks too. Next would be Trust your battle brothers as you'll need it to balance fire range and HtH or Take the fight to them to arm your boys for HtH. No mercy, no respite would help you in the assault. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/88510-a-quick-scheme-i-whipped-up/#findComment-1024564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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