Heavy Messing Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 *disengages lurk mode* Greetings All, I'm a keen fan of B&C, but I rarely post, however, I'm stumped on this one, and was wondering if anyone could help, as I'm not the world's greatest painter... <_< I was thinking of painting up some test marines in the Steel Confessor colour scheme having trawled the net for fluff and pics, B&C being one of the best sources of course, and I believe the esteemed Brother Bannus listed it as: "Colours are blue metallic armour with Bleached Bone pads over a black undercoat". I can't seem to work out how I'm going to do metallic blue? Does GW even DO a metallic blue?? I can't find one! Any suggestions more than welcome! Please note I've never worked with anything other than GW paints (deprived I know), although I'm more than willing to try if I can get a hold of them! Sorry if this sounds a bit basic! HM Edit: Do I NEED to use metallic blue? Or would a non metallic suffice? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89609-steel-confessors/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Ghost Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 how about mixing midnight blue with mithril silver or a darker one like chainmail? don't know if that will work Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89609-steel-confessors/#findComment-1030606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy40k Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Well, I believe they used to do a metallic blue, but not any more. The easiest way is paint the parts you want to be metallic blue either Boltgun Metal, Chainmail, or Mithiril Silver depending on how bright you want the armour to be. The do a layer of watered down blue ink over the silver, multiple layers will make the blue richer. -Legacy40k Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89609-steel-confessors/#findComment-1030607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Ghost Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 wouldn't that make them a bit to much like grey knights, silver armour with a blue tinge? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89609-steel-confessors/#findComment-1030612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greymouser Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Vallejo model color makes a gunmetal blue metallic paint that looks great. It, like most of vallejo's metallics, cover really well, but doesn't drybrush very well. It mixes with boltgun and chainmail metallics for highlights easily, too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89609-steel-confessors/#findComment-1030615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoxI Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 wouldn't that make them a bit to much like grey knights, silver armour with a blue tinge? It depends on the amount of blue ink you use. They Grey Knights GW paints for the books generally have a very minimal coating. I say try both suggestions and see which one you like more (duh! :rolleyes: ). Good luck! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89609-steel-confessors/#findComment-1030620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Atheos Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 something i've discovered is mixing some paint into the ink will make it "stain" whatever you wash but only add a drop. i'd say a tiny drop of black into blue ink over a chainmail coat will give a result close to what you want. Apart from that the best advice i can give is experiment! Good luck <~Brother Atheos~> Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89609-steel-confessors/#findComment-1030652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Caliban Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Sorry if this sounds a bit basic! HM Edit: Do I NEED to use metallic blue? Or would a non metallic suffice? Brother nothing is ever too basic and no question should be ignored (unless it's because you can't be bothered opening a rule book!). To create a clean steel look akin to titanium you would well want a blue tinge to it. Why not use the Ordo Melleus Grey Knight method? Boltgun metal and then 1 part ink to ten parts water, leave to dry and apply several times so as not to 'stain' (see articles on how to use inks if you are not too sure). P.S I witnessed the actual battle at UK Games Day which is going to dictate the Steel Confessors fluff! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89609-steel-confessors/#findComment-1030665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJon Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 You can try Coat D'arms paint, they used to mix the old GW paint, and use the same old GW paint pots. They still make the blue metal paint, I think the new color name is Polished Blue but I would ask around. BigJon Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89609-steel-confessors/#findComment-1030674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Trask Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 you could try, as is already mentioned, mixing the blue ink with the silver. OR try taking a blue of choice (enchanted blue per say) and mix that with chainmail and you get a nice metallic blue. "there are many ways to skin a cat" - or so they say! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89609-steel-confessors/#findComment-1030675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Messing Posted June 14, 2006 Author Share Posted June 14, 2006 Thank you all the replies brothers! I've noted all the techniques and will give them all consideration! I believe one of the issues I have to deal with first, is whether the Steel Confessors are 'steel' as in Grey Knight-type steely (sp?) blue, or are they an actual metallic blue, sort of like the kind you get when you pay for metallic paint on a new car! :rolleyes: The pictures I've seen of mini's seem to be that it's an actual metallic blue, however, I believe there was a large bust of a terminator present which has painted 'steel'? Brother Caliban, having witnessed the game at Games Day, perhaps you could enlighten us? Or indeed anyone who saw those mini's? Thanks again all, HM Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89609-steel-confessors/#findComment-1030681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurgan the Lurker Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Reaper Pro Series paints have several colored metallics -- including a blue. Doing some mixes of it with mithril silver should set you up nicely for the armor you want to do: http://www.reapermini.com/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89609-steel-confessors/#findComment-1030705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermanista Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 maybe abit of a bizzare idea, but if you want them done properly, why not phone up the store responsable for the steel confessor game from last yeah, and ask what colours they did them with. after doing a full chapter of the buggers, they probably wont have forgotten which colours they used. Chris W Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89609-steel-confessors/#findComment-1030735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plague BeAst Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I remember seeing a colour scheme of an undercoat of silver, with a large number of ink washes. The effect was like lacquered metal. Very striking. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89609-steel-confessors/#findComment-1030971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sternhammer Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I had a chat with some of ythe guys who did the steel confessors, and if I remember correctly its a mix of blue ink, Mithrill silver and one other colour which I believe to be Turquoise, Sternhammer Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89609-steel-confessors/#findComment-1031028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_m4d_skillz Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I would suggest something like: basecoat with boltgun mixed with encahnted blue, highlight by adding chainmail to the mix, a final highlight with mithril before glazing the whole area with thinned blue ink, to enrich the blue.... and then maybe highlight with mithril again... :wub: remember to keep ur paints thinned and so on :( keep it real Mvh: skillz Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89609-steel-confessors/#findComment-1031038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannus Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 I would use a mix of the metal finishes (Boltgun Metal, Mithryl Silver, Chainmail, etc.) to get a good light effect going (i.e. to "shade" and "highlight" the mini). Then I would seriously thin some blue ink with water and apply one coat at a time until i achieved a desirable result. For the shoulderpads, I would start with Snakebite leather and work my way up to about 1/3rd Skull White to 2/3rds Bleached Bone for the final highlight. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89609-steel-confessors/#findComment-1031691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyinghippo Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 I used this for my GKs: 50/50 mix of Enchanted Blue/Boltgun Metal Drybrush Chainmail Drybrush Mithril Silver Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89609-steel-confessors/#findComment-1031747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannus Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 I used this for my GKs: 50/50 mix of Enchanted Blue/Boltgun Metal Drybrush Chainmail Drybrush Mithril Silver That sounds pretty cool. Got picks? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89609-steel-confessors/#findComment-1031750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Messing Posted June 16, 2006 Author Share Posted June 16, 2006 Greetings all, Thanks for the advice so far, every bit appreicated, I spoke with Brother Caliban in real time, and also from the posts in this thread, there seems to be a genuine acceptance that the 'Steel' Confessors are indeed steel? Or at least perhaps a heavy blue inked metal? Dr_m4d_skillz suggested: boltgun mixed with encahnted blue My flatmate actually just tried this and the result is a slightly metallic blue. It looks quite good. However, I guess I'm still back with the same question, blue or steel? Or is it a 'bluely steel'????? Arrrgggghhhhh! Oh, for an IA: steel Confessors! HM Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89609-steel-confessors/#findComment-1032359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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