ImRuined Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Well, I've been thinking that since there is no current Vindicator model other than from Forgeworld available, I've been considering converting a Leman Russ Demolisher into a Vindicator... I'd attach supporting struts to the cannon and additional plating around to the turret so that it's obvious it's fixed in place... I'd not worry with side sponsons and mount a storm bolter into the front hull gun mounting... What I'm curious about is whether anyone would have a problem with me doing this abd fielding it as a Vindicator? My other thought was to find some WWII German Tank Hunter, particulary a Jagd Tiger, and shorten down the barrel into something a little more inline with a Demolisher cannon... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89633-vindicator-out-of-a-leman-russ/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignatius Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 No not at all, as long as it resembles a Vindicator and you make sure your opponent knows when you game you will be fine. With the WWII tank idea again not a problem however you won't be able to use in in GT's as all models must be base on and be I tinnk over 50% GW models. OK for the Russ idea but not the german tank kit. I Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89633-vindicator-out-of-a-leman-russ/#findComment-1030916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_lee_ Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Here's something if you're still looking for options... http://uk.games-workshop.com/spacemarines/vindicator/1/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89633-vindicator-out-of-a-leman-russ/#findComment-1030925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penitent Dreadnought Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 My other thought was to find some WWII German Tank Hunter, particulary a Jagd Tiger, and shorten down the barrel into something a little more inline with a Demolisher cannon... I didn't give you permission to steal my idea, you rogue psyker! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89633-vindicator-out-of-a-leman-russ/#findComment-1030973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemal Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I'd have no issues with fielding a Vindicator based on teh Leman Russ chassis - it could be an alternate STC. Just make it suitably "Marine-like" - add technology bits such as targeters and auspex which you won't find on a Guard tank - probably purchase the marine accessories sprue. And evidently, adding a nice hefty recoil mechanism to fix the turret in place, otherwise make the cannon a "centre-line" cannon a-la JagdPanther Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89633-vindicator-out-of-a-leman-russ/#findComment-1030982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Galfridus Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 You could always take a rhino chasis and add the demolisher turret just like a a predator. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89633-vindicator-out-of-a-leman-russ/#findComment-1030999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterseth Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 With the WWII tank idea again not a problem however you won't be able to use in in GT's as all models must be base on and be I tinnk over 50% GW models. OK for the Russ idea but not the german tank kit. 1/35 scale German WWII Sturmtiger is essentially what the vindicator is based off of...use that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89633-vindicator-out-of-a-leman-russ/#findComment-1031128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Jobu Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 In the latest US White Dwarf there is a conversion combining a rhino and a basilisk cannon... it makes a really nice looking vindicator. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89633-vindicator-out-of-a-leman-russ/#findComment-1031343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt Stahl Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 here some pics of an IW Vindicator I've made 5 years ago, using a 1/35 Sturm Tiger cannon. First pic 2 3 4 80% GW model :) Cpt Stahl. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89633-vindicator-out-of-a-leman-russ/#findComment-1031375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkbunny Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Im lovin' it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89633-vindicator-out-of-a-leman-russ/#findComment-1031378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freebooter Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 I'd let you use it and it sounds like a great idea. I'd use it but i play wolves and i've been trying to convert up an exterminator so it wouldn't look right having 2 leman russ bodies and both having different armour values. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89633-vindicator-out-of-a-leman-russ/#findComment-1031758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImRuined Posted June 16, 2006 Author Share Posted June 16, 2006 Here's something if you're still looking for options... http://uk.games-workshop.com/spacemarines/vindicator/1/ I'd actually considered this also, but wasn't sure how well the old metals would go with the new plastic Rhinos... Also didn't wanna spend $120 (AU$), or something like that, on the two models to stuff it up and have to spend another $60 to get another Rhino... :ph34r: I had also considered using the Leman Russ as a base as I've always had a soft spot for the model and have been looking for a way to include one in my army... Even considered using VDR's but it turned out WAY too costly in points to replicate one... :P But thanks, I'll have to save the instructions and decide what I go for when I get around to doing my Vindicator... Gonna leave the vehicles to last... A Vindicator and 2 Whirlwinds... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89633-vindicator-out-of-a-leman-russ/#findComment-1031793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Xavier Posted June 16, 2006 Share Posted June 16, 2006 as its been said as long as you tell your opponent exactly what it is i dont see the issue Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89633-vindicator-out-of-a-leman-russ/#findComment-1031794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImRuined Posted June 16, 2006 Author Share Posted June 16, 2006 Here's something if you're still looking for options... http://uk.games-workshop.com/spacemarines/vindicator/1/ Looking over the destructions for the conversion, I'm really liking this... The only thing I'd be changing is the hydraulics on top of the Demolisher cannon, the old model has them, but he's not inlcuded them in the new conversion... Looks like they should fit too which is a little odd, and I personally don't think the cannon looks right without them... I'm thinking I might do both options, this and the Leman Russ idea as I had even considered fielding 2 Vindicators depending on the circumstances... :ph34r: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89633-vindicator-out-of-a-leman-russ/#findComment-1031800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freebooter Posted June 17, 2006 Share Posted June 17, 2006 I faced a Salamander army with 3 Vindicators a while ago with me playing my podding wolves. It hurt alot. I lost my wolfguard and a hunters pack by the end of 2nd turn. Ever sice then i've been planning on adding one but it has always been put off like the Exterminator. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89633-vindicator-out-of-a-leman-russ/#findComment-1032601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kr00tman Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 bump, did a searchy for a topic like this, i have renengade sms so i wanted to to this to represent them salvaging a russ, is their anyone who has done this that could post pics? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89633-vindicator-out-of-a-leman-russ/#findComment-1084036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptn. Palladorus Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 What about turning the Leman Russ chassis around so that the cannon is on what used to be the back, so that the teardrop(ish) shape makes it look like a small Land Raider? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89633-vindicator-out-of-a-leman-russ/#findComment-1084366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
megamat008 Posted August 23, 2006 Share Posted August 23, 2006 You could also use the metal parts of the Vindicator on a Mk II Rhino Chassis, it would be a bit cheaper than the Uk website conversion and better looking imho, here's a picture of this conversion (not from me :) ) Coolminiornot Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89633-vindicator-out-of-a-leman-russ/#findComment-1084464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
InquisitorPalpatine Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 I know thier stuff can be kind of exspensive, but forgeworld has two imperial guard tanks built of the russ frame that look like vindicator style tanks. The Destroyer tank and the Thunderer Siege tank could both make excellent vindicators.forgeworld link Scroll down the page to check them out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89633-vindicator-out-of-a-leman-russ/#findComment-1084842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator_of_Bahamut Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 If you make the vindicator from the russ, one thing I wanted to suggest you look into is swapping the side pieces so the treads mounts are reversed. This way, the treads would slope to the rear in front like a Marine tank rather than sloping forwards like IG tanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89633-vindicator-out-of-a-leman-russ/#findComment-1084865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kr00tman Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Alright, I just went to work building it lik a normal demolisher..and then it hit me how to do it..so its all built I just have to clean up the green stuff work and ill post a picture of it tomorrow. The onlyproblem is for the life of me I cant figure out where to put the storm bolter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89633-vindicator-out-of-a-leman-russ/#findComment-1084867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemal Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 put the storm bolter on the automated weapons mount hatch cover from teh amrine sprue Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/89633-vindicator-out-of-a-leman-russ/#findComment-1085346 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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